Part of the Dez Rolling Stones Article

[Nightman]

The Cowboys do a great job helping troubled players. Wells conned them like he cons everybody else.

Someone in that situation should have a spotless background.

Basically DAL forced Dez to keep paying Wells after the incident with his brother and mother and it looks like Wells leaked the video story.

 

[xwalker]

It has a named accountant contradicting statements of Wells and allowing him a response. That is hardly complete control. The part chronicling his homelife in Lufkin was well done I thought.

Yes, they take an intriguing story about how he grew up and intertwine it with the story that Roc and Dez want portrayed about his current life including Wells.

It's like Wells is in court and the prosecutor has no rules and can tell the jury anything that he wants to tell them and no realistic ability by Wells to defend his side of what happened. It is highly likely that Roc/Dez provided the "accountant" to Rolling Stone. Yes, Wells is a shady character but my point is that this is a one sided commentary designed to control the narrative.

It's a puff piece designed to tell about all the bad things that "other" people have done to Dez and avoid all the dumb stuff that he's done himself. It is obviously working because people are buying it.

 

[xwalker]

Only Dallas would put a guy like Wells in charge of players' security. You can't make this stuff up.

Sounds like Wells has 'street cred' in spades but couldn't pass a background check if he had to.

Dez really has had it rough and my opinion of his maturity has actually increased. He is nothing like Irvin except intense on the field.

Wells has been described that similar to the WInston Wolfe character from Pulp Fiction. You can't exactly get a straight arrow type person to do that job. There is a reason the Cowboys picked Wells.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

Yes, they take an intriguing story about how he grew up and intertwine it with the story that Roc and Dez want portrayed about his current life including Wells.

It's like Wells is in court and the prosecutor has no rules and can tell the jury anything that he wants to tell them and no realistic ability by Wells to defend his side of what happened. It is highly likely that Roc/Dez provided the "accountant" to Rolling Stone. Yes, Wells is a shady character but my point is that this is a one sided commentary designed to control the narrative.

It's a puff piece designed to tell about all the bad things that "other" people have done to Dez and avoid all the dumb stuff that he's done himself. It is obviously working because people are buying it.

What dumb stuff are they avoiding?

The sagging pants?
The Jewelry purchases?
The incident with his mother?

All of those were in the article and really are not major incidents what other dumb stuff are you talking about and what should be focused on in your mind to make this not one-sided?

 

[jterrell]

various:
Wells is definitely a snake. He made his bones basically being a fixer.
Digging up dirt on people and using information to get results.
He is proven to be lying then basically says ok challenge me on it in court where I can toss all the skeletons out of your closet.

I didn't take what Dez said about Mike as a shot. I think Jerry wanted Dez under Irvin like supervision and Dez was the one footing the bill for it.
He was getting taken to the cleaners yet he's not a drinker much less hardcore partier with 'white house' ties. So yes, he isn't Michael Irvin.

The first big indication I had Wells was shady was how the Dez/Momma incident occurred. Virtually anyone else would have went to great lengths to portray Dez as a victim and completely downplay the argument in that scenario for PR sake. Wells was basically making it a big deal, using it as proof Dez needs handholding. And again with that Walmart incident. Wells is trying to blow it up instead of covering it up. Basically doing exactly opposite of what he's been paid for.

The media bought Wells crap because he was an unnamed source for many of them. Now he's been proven to be a liar by accountants and they sit by quietly without being honest about all the stuff he gave them that they used against Dez in at least implications on air.

 

[jterrell]

Wells has been described that similar to the WInston Wolfe character from Pulp Fiction. You can't exactly get a straight arrow type person to do that job. There is a reason the Cowboys picked Wells.

Wells is good friends with Senator West. He is also a former cop so knows the system and people in it.
He was an investigator for the court system, digging up hard to find people and finding truths.
He's been a bondsman, cop, investigator and bodyguard.

Jerry met him when he helped Irvin out of trouble. The team used him to do research on hangers on and girlfriends. He probably fixed a ton of situations over the years where some knucklehead tried to flex on a player or the team.

He isn't much like Wolfe is he won't shut up talking to the media. But he is definitely shady and working gray areas.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, they take an intriguing story about how he grew up and intertwine it with the story that Roc and Dez want portrayed about his current life including Wells.

It's like Wells is in court and the prosecutor has no rules and can tell the jury anything that he wants to tell them and no realistic ability by Wells to defend his side of what happened. It is highly likely that Roc/Dez provided the "accountant" to Rolling Stone. Yes, Wells is a shady character but my point is that this is a one sided commentary designed to control the narrative.

It's a puff piece designed to tell about all the bad things that "other" people have done to Dez and avoid all the dumb stuff that he's done himself. It is obviously working because people are buying it.

Lovely. So I get you reflexively repeating yourself and not addressing what I say. Nice. I will repeat myself then in the hopes of a better reading performance later.

Rolling Stone spoke to Wells quoted him. They then went to Wells with the accountants rebuttal and let him speak again. Wells had his defense. He lied. That is not one sided.

The piece includes a named accountant detailing account transactions. That is hard core fact. It is verifiable, authoritative, and legally backed. Are you going to respond to the CPA licensing or the fact he has his name out there opening himself up to libel if it is untrue?

Dez didn't blame anyone else for the mom incident and what other thing did he 'do to himself?' Be late to meetings?

 

[xwalker]

Lovely. So I get you reflexively repeating yourself and not addressing what I say. Nice. I will repeat myself then in the hopes of a better reading performance later.

Rolling Stone spoke to Wells quoted him. They then went to Wells with the accountants rebuttal and let him speak again. Wells had his defense. He lied. That is not one sided.

The piece includes a named accountant detailing account transactions. That is hard core fact. It is verifiable, authoritative, and legally backed. Are you going to respond to the CPA licensing or the fact he has his name out there opening himself up to libel if it is untrue?

Dez didn't blame anyone else for the mom incident and what other thing did he 'do to himself?' Be late to meetings?

If Wells had to pay off people to get Dez out of trouble where would the money come from? It would come from Dez by him repaying Wells.

There is no point debating this. You and many others are emotionally invested in this issue.

We already know what happens when you have an emotional reaction. Remember when you told me at this time last year that Parnell sucked and was not a capable NFL player? Then months later when your emotions cooled you admitted that he was indeed a good player?

 

[xwalker]

Wells is good friends with Senator West. He is also a former cop so knows the system and people in it.
He was an investigator for the court system, digging up hard to find people and finding truths.
He's been a bondsman, cop, investigator and bodyguard.

Jerry met him when he helped Irvin out of trouble. The team used him to do research on hangers on and girlfriends. He probably fixed a ton of situations over the years where some knucklehead tried to flex on a player or the team.

He isn't much like Wolfe is he won't shut up talking to the media. But he is definitely shady and working gray areas.

I agree with this. He is obviously not covering up murder like the Wolfe character but it's a similar concept at a lower level of bad behaviour.

Wells has a lot of connections and is obviously respected by the Cowboys. If he consistently behaved as claimed in the article he would never have been respected by the Cowboys and others.

This article was done with oversight from Roc and is really intended to make Dez more marketable and put the past behind him.

The article is NOT deep investigative unbiased journalism.

 

[Nightman]

I agree with this. He is obviously not covering up murder like the Wolfe character but it's a similar concept at a lower level of bad behaviour.

Wells has a lot of connections and is obviously respected by the Cowboys. If he consistently behaved as claimed in the article he would never have been respected by the Cowboys and others.

This article was done with oversight from Roc and is really intended to make Dez more marketable and put the past behind him.

The article is NOT deep investigative unbiased journalism.

Do you really think Rolling Stone would give oversight to RocSports?

They may be a notch above a tabloid these days, but giving control to the interviewee is not something they do. They may come at it with a predetermined point of view but final say would be a bit dramatic

 

[JIGGYFLY]

If Wells had to pay off people to get Dez out of trouble where would the money come from? It would come from Dez by him repaying Wells.

There is no point debating this. You and many others are emotionally invested in this issue.

We already know what happens when you have an emotional reaction. Remember when you told me at this time last year that Parnell sucked and was not a capable NFL player? Then months later when your emotions cooled you admitted that he was indeed a good player?

Wow way to make huge assumptions, that's a big if and a shaky leg to stand on.

If Well's was running around paying people off there would be some smoke out there and he would have no issue with leaking more stuff than just "The Video".

You are really scrambling on this one.

 

[Aven8]

I would have given him 24 hr security for 16k/month so this Wells guy is a crook!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If Wells had to pay off people to get Dez out of trouble where would the money come from? It would come from Dez by him repaying Wells.

There is no point debating this. You and many others are emotionally invested in this issue.

We already know what happens when you have an emotional reaction. Remember when you told me at this time last year that Parnell sucked and was not a capable NFL player? Then months later when your emotions cooled you admitted that he was indeed a good player?

So your explanation is that Dez paid for a fleet of cars and gave him all his endorsement checks was because Wells had to do some fantasy of yours? You're right it is pointless to argue further but only because you insist on an unproven assertion. I'm fine letting that argument be judged where it is.

I actually am fairly dispassionate about the article. Your tactics on the other hand are irritating.

You won't argue this substantively but instead pose to judge some older argument and stand on that? Anyway, this is what I said after the Baltimore preseason game last year.

I wanted to watch Wetzel but instead my eyes kept on finding Parnell and Goodin playing like garbage. I had a theory that Parnell was slow rolling it. Well, I was wrong. He does a poor job setting up outside and gets beat on the inside move anyway? He doesn't make my cut down to 70.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/fuzzy-thoughts-on-ps-vs-ravens.296417/

Your emotional narrative is fantasy too although I am taking my own medicine and being patient with Weems. Seriously the emotional storytime cause youre still sore about an old argument routine was just great. Thanks. Perhaps you could use some cooling of your own.

When Parnell played poorly I called him on it when he played well I credited him for it. He didn't play well early but I went in thinking he was a talented player. I remember comparing him to Flo Adams for example. That's my actual narrative. You want to go ahead and champion Parnells play that night in Baltimore you go ahead.

 

[xwalker]

So your explanation is that Dez paid for a fleet of cars and gave him all his endorsement checks was because Wells had to do some fantasy of yours? You're right it is pointless to argue further but only because you insist on an unproven assertion. I'm fine letting that argument be judged where it is.

I actually am fairly dispassionate about the article. Your tactics on the other hand are irritating.

You won't argue this substantively but instead pose to judge some older argument and stand on that? Anyway, this is what I said after the Baltimore preseason game last year.



http://cowboyszone.com/threads/fuzzy-thoughts-on-ps-vs-ravens.296417/

Your emotional narrative is fantasy too although I am taking my own medicine and being patient with Weems. Seriously the emotional storytime cause youre still sore about an old argument routine was just great. Thanks. Perhaps you could use some cooling of your own.

When Parnell played poorly I called him on it when he played well I credited him for it. He didn't play well early but I went in thinking he was a talented player. I remember comparing him to Flo Adams for example. That's my actual narrative. You want to go ahead and champion Parnells play that night in Baltimore you go ahead.

You said Parnell would not make your cut to 70 and you now telling me that was based on 1 game., yet you can't admit to over reacting...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You said Parnell would not make your cut to 70 and you now telling me that was based on 1 game., yet you can't admit to over reacting...

Baltimore was the second preseason game. Two bad games in a row had me concerned. I thought he was excellent two years before but had regressed when Free won the job easily the next year.

I think the point to take from this is that while my opinion on Parnell changed as I watched him, you made your mind up at the beginning. You also got upset and remembered the times that I thought he hadn't played well. It compelled you to reprise the angst.

 

[Tio]

"...And just let Dave try to mess with Greg Hardy. He'll slap the [female dog] right outta him!"-Bryant

C'mon Dez. Be smarter than that dude.

 

[chris1995]

I'm glad Dez got his deal. Nothing good is going to come from this. Rolling Stone is basically a tabloid at this point.

Ask those UVA guys.

DEZ getting a deal was key for the Cowboys season and future.

 

[chris1995]

I honestly don't think he meant anything by it, Dez isn't always great with words. He probably just meant he won't get into the stuff mike was getting in with the Cowboys. I'm sure Irvin wont think anything of it. Irvin knows he was getting into some **** when he was with the Cowboys. I bet they've already even talked about it and it's no biggie

Media just wants to blow up stuff.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Man....I guess i'm a bit shocked by the tone of the article. Dez seems a bit angry or he was this past season anyway. I just don't get that from Dez but I guess I can understand it. You feel like you're worth something and the organization you fight so hard for thinks you're worth 12 million guaranteed because they don't trust you.

 

[Gameover]

This guys garbage.