Per The Ticket: Josh Brent sentenced to 10 years Probation and 180 days in jail.

WoodysGirl said:
Based on all the reports... the coaches nor Jerry knew he was on the sideline.
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Even so, given the circumstances, I have no issues with letting Brent be around the team at this point. This was a team tragedy, and I don't really understand the anger directed toward the survivor here. Both players made a horrible decision, and it could just as easily have been Brent that had died. If it were, and his soberish friend had let him drive drunk and unbuckled when he could have called a cab, would the situation be reversed? Probably.

The real issue was the camera shot of Brent smiling on the sideline during that game, which is a normal human gesture even in times of enormous grief, but was just a PR disaster for a team that otherwise handled a very, very difficult situation beautifully.
 
Idgit said:
Even so, given the circumstances, I have no issues with letting Brent be around the team at this point. This was a team tragedy, and I don't really understand the anger directed toward the survivor here. Both players made a horrible decision, and it could just as easily have been Brent that had died. If it were, and his soberish friend had let him drive drunk and unbuckled when he could have called a cab, would the situation be reversed? Probably.

The real issue was the camera shot of Brent smiling on the sideline during that game, which is a normal human gesture even in times of enormous grief, but was just a PR disaster for a team that otherwise handled a very, very difficult situation beautifully.
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If he was a high draft pick, had a big contract, or had a ton of upside - I'd think about it.

He's just a rotational DL guy that will bring too much negative publicity. Even with our depth issues, it's not worth the potential brain damage, especially for a JAG.
 
Kaiser said:
Every player, including Brent, has a sideline pass where they can get into the Stadium and onto the sidelines. Its no different than an injured player coming to the game to be on the sidelines in street clothes. No one approved Brent coming to the game and "let" him on the sidelines, he walked in on his own and left when they told him to leave.
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You serious, Clark?
If what you write is so, that is a good story. Brent got up one morning, with his pal in the process of being buried, and decided to be on the sidelines?
Jerra and Red half been defamed, then, because people like me believed Jerra and/or Red endorsed this and allowed this.
I would half liked to half seen Brent been asked to leave.
Thanks for clarifying the unfortunate incident.
 
According to this article, players asked Brent to be there but the team would have stopped him had they known he was coming. Not that I trust much of what Werder says, but this is the article -


Though the team has pledged to support Brent, his appearance on the sidelines was a surprise and had team or league officials known about it ahead of time, they likely would have blocked it from taking place as the team was unveiling "No. 53" decals on the back of their helmets to honor Brown. Werder reports the appearance was planned and organized by several of his teammates, who had to encourage the reluctant Brent to attend. Werder adds that once Brent learned that his presence was causing a stir on the national level, he exited the stadium in the third quarter.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...idelines-remainder-season-021255104--nfl.html
 
To clarify: Murder is a narrow legal term, at least in Texas and most states excluding prefectures in Asia and some cantons in Switzerland.

Murder usually involves intent and premeditation.
Whatr we sometimes refer to as murder can become manslaughter, vehicular homicide, negligent homicide even self-defense.

Unless the prosecution could half proven intent and premeditation, the charge half to be manslaughter, etc.

I do not half a law degree but I half watched a lot of them SUV shows that feature a stern police captain, a rebel detective and a cowardly prosecutor, so I feel I can properly discuss these matters ipso factor and without hesitation on the nuances of the law.
 
GimmeTheBall! said:
There is defense. Then there is a stupid defense that even stupid jurors won't buy.
Remember the Twinkie Defense? Remember other idiotic defense team schemes?
That is what I am talking about. Not the garden variety legit defenses. So, hoser, gimme a break and back off and be glad we half not chosen to invade Oh Canada.
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It is "have" and it is "O Canada".

Not sure why you had to go to the stupid you are lucky we haven't invaded you line, as if the fact I am from another country has anything to do with commenting on the Josh Brent defence.
 
The suffering for everyone involved has been ongoing and painful. Hopefully it doesn't get worse.
 
GimmeTheBall! said:
To clarify: Murder is a narrow legal term, at least in Texas and most states excluding prefectures in Asia and some cantons in Switzerland.
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Murder is a narrow legal term? True. And death is deep, forever...beyond "terms". The reality is that results are way bigger than motivations.

Brent should be put away for awhile.
 
TheRomoSexual said:
Yeah, no. That's a complete misstatement of the felony-murder rule. Please point me to one jurisdiction that has found DUI to be an inherently dangerous felony.
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so in your book DUI is OK
good to know and expected nothing less from you

it is laughable that the same posters who defend jerry's every idiotic act are also defending this one
 
Idgit said:
I believe Jerry Brown was legally sober when he got in the car with a drunk driver and chose not to wear a seatbelt. That still sounds more like suicide than murder, to me.

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you cant make this stuff up
posters actually believe this and are posting it

anything to excuse the actions of cowboy players and the team
 
CanadianCowboysFan said:
It is "have" and it is "O Canada".

Not sure why you had to go to the stupid you are lucky we haven't invaded you line, as if the fact I am from another country has anything to do with commenting on the Josh Brent defence.
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oh, no?
Well, yo mama!

How do we know you are not from Taiwan or Greenland who settled in Canada and out to destroy our weigh of life, huh? We half suspicions about ever one who is not American.
 
T-RO said:
Murder is a narrow legal term? True. And death is deep, forever...beyond "terms". The reality is that results are way bigger than motivations.

Brent should be put away for awhile.
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Yes, "for a while." In Texas that mean 50 years. If he is smart he will ax for the Huntsville unit where they half rodeo and he can do good being cruel to steers, horses and a cavs.
 
visionary said:
so in your book DUI is OK
good to know and expected nothing less from you

it is laughable that the same posters who defend jerry's every idiotic act are also defending this one
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Yes, that's exactly what I said. Just FYI, you should probably learn how to read and stop trying to talk about the law. Thanks.
 
Kaiser said:
That isn't how our criminal justice system works. There are tens of thousands of lawyers in this country that make a nice living introducing doubt in DUI trials for the way the test was administered, the test itself, the lab, on and on and on. Brent obviously did this but proving vehicular manslaughter beyond a shadow of a doubt in a criminal trial is an entirely different thing.
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In Florida, it's mandatory to draw blood after a crash that results in death. Not sure about the Texas laws, but any blood drawn should override doubts about the breathalyzer test.
 
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