Per Werder Cowboys have not discussed Forte or Jeffrey

[Corso]

Roy Williams was a one hit wonder wide receiver, who was slow and didn't add anything to our offense. We could have gotten Boldin for cheaper and he was a better player.

Comparing things to the Roy Williams trade is a false equivalence.

You don't have to pay these guys if you don't want to keep them, but if they deliver a super bowl... I'll take it.

Salient and sage. The hat tips.

 

[dallasdave]

Salient and sage. The hat tips.

Beaming down- Kirk OUT !!!!

 

[Kaiser]

He would certainly make a difference in our cap costing 7 million dollars
How much cap space we have right now?

IIRC we had 5 Million in cap room to start the season but Hardy accepting a 4 game suspension would add another 3 million to that. BKnight and others would know the exact number.

We have the room or could make it available, there are guys like Witten we could restructure. If the draft choice was a low one, I think Forte would be worth spending the money on. He is a guy that could put this offense over the top.

 

[Nightman]

IIRC we had 5 Million in cap room to start the season but Hardy accepting a 4 game suspension would add another 3 million to that. BKnight and others would know the exact number.

We have the room or could make it available, there are guys like Witten we could restructure. If the draft choice was a low one, I think Forte would be worth spending the money on. He is a guy that could put this offense over the top.

We are actually pretty tight against it. After signing TCrawford(added 2m) and Matt Cassell(+1.7m) and moving McClain to the IR(+500k) Dallas was under 3m.

They already restructured Witten last week to free up 2.4m, so the only money left would be Carr(around 4.5m).

Taking on 7m for Forte would be a huge burden and waste if you ask me. We still wouldn't have any thump.

 

[sureletsrace]

So we keep bum *** Williams?

8 TDs from your #2 isn't bad at all.

The better question is; you want the Cowboys to be paying almost 25 million dollars per year to 2 WRs?

 

[Kaiser]

Taking on 7m for Forte would be a huge burden and waste if you ask me. We still wouldn't have any thump.

Thanks for the numbers, I was thinking it was higher than that. I would rather give DMC more carries and then pick their spots with Randle and Dunbar, but I do think Forte would be a big improvement. Maybe not worth the pick and salary, but he is a guy that could be the missing piece of the puzzle IMO.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

On keeping the oline
On paying several good players under rookie deals you can get with the picks you give up
At least he is under contract next year

We are years down the line before even thinking about giving guys on this offensive line a new deal though.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

8 TDs from your #2 isn't bad at all.

The better question is; you want the Cowboys to be paying almost 25 million dollars per year to 2 WRs?

If it will help us win more football games then I have no problem Jerry spending 25 million a year on 2 receivers lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I get the emotion behind this, but believing in the Now and disregarding the future gets you broke more times than it makes you rich.
How many teams throw it all in and come up snake eyes?
A hell of a lot more than the ones who win it.

And then what?
You're in here complaining and whining every day here about how the FO messed up the next several years and I have to read it.

Think man. Beyond the today. Do you invest, by any chance?

I'm not saying mortgage your future for the now but IMO, this is a smart move. If you want to compare it to investing, this is a low risk high reward potential deal if its for a 3rd rounder. You will not find a player the caliber of Jeffrey's in the 3rd round. And he's 25 years old. This is not a 30+ year old. You have a 25 year old wide receiver who still hasn't hit his ceiling.

The Cowboys in a great position to throw it all in now and still have a young solid team for the future.

I'm not saying mortgage your youth. A 3rd rounder to me......I just value Jeffrey's more than I would a 3rd rounder. I mean this team just said a 5th rounder for Matt Cassell was worth it. How can you not tell me a 3rd rounder for Jeffrey's isn't?

 

[mattjames2010]

If it will help us win more football games then I have no problem Jerry spending 25 million a year on 2 receivers lol.

Really? We want to put a lot of money into a #2 when we are going to lose two of our starting CBs (Most likely) at the end of the season? We're here talking about overpaying for a #2?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I would, because I wouldn't be throwing my draft picks down the toilet.

BPA in the draft, then fill in what I couldn't get in FA.

If the NFL didn't have a salary cap, I'm sure Jerry would have 40 of the top 100 players in the NFL on this roster. But it does.

Successful teams don't spend 20+mil a year on two WRs.

How much are Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson costing the Packers? Or how much did Harrison and Reggie Wayne cost the Colts? Or how much did Boldin and Fitz cost the Cardinals? Successful teams do whatever it takes to simply win.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Really? We want to put a lot of money into a #2 when we are going to lose two of our starting CBs (Most likely) at the end of the season? We're here talking about overpaying for a #2?

Who will we lose? Carr or Claiborne? I thought we had Carr for a few more years but Claiborne can be brought back. A Jeffrey's move wouldn't prevent that from happening. Let's don't kid ourselves here. This team will go as far as Romo and the offense takes us. The defense.......its a bend but don't break defense. How much do you want to spend on a bend but don't break defense? I wouldn't spend anything more than draft picks and next year we should have a nice amount if our compensation picks come through.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Roy Williams was a one hit wonder wide receiver, who was slow and didn't add anything to our offense. We could have gotten Boldin for cheaper and he was a better player.

Comparing things to the Roy Williams trade is a false equivalence.

You don't have to pay these guys if you don't want to keep them, but if they deliver a super bowl... I'll take it.

Right. The Roy Williams move would've been more tolerable if it was a 2nd or 3rd round pick. We gave up a 1st and a 3rd in a weak draft. That's where we played ourselves at.

 

[mattjames2010]

Who will we lose? Carr or Claiborne? I thought we had Carr for a few more years but Claiborne can be brought back. A Jeffrey's move wouldn't prevent that from happening. Let's don't kid ourselves here. This team will go as far as Romo and the offense takes us. The defense.......its a bend but don't break defense. How much do you want to spend on a bend but don't break defense? I wouldn't spend anything more than draft picks and next year we should have a nice amount if our compensation picks come through.

Carr is gone if he doesn't take a paycut. We didn't pick up the 5th year option on Claiborne, which is telling. If he doesn't play at a high level all season, he's looking for a new home. Jones was drafted in the first and couldn't beat out Patmon, this is worrisome.

CB will be a need going into the offseason, a #1 or #2 WR is not. We may need depth at WR, but it certainly will not be a high priced FA or one that comes in a trade.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Carr is gone if he doesn't take a paycut. We didn't pick up the 5th year option on Claiborne, which is telling. If he doesn't play at a high level all season, he's looking for a new home. Jones was drafted in the first and couldn't beat out Patmon, this is worrisome.

CB will be a need going into the offseason, a #1 or #2 WR is not. We may need depth at WR, but it certainly will not be a high priced FA or one that comes in a trade.

Its not worrisome lol. Patmon is a better nickel corner than Jones. Jones is a rookie. It says more about Patmon than it does Jones. It says that Patmon has made a huge jump from year 1 to 2.

People have been saying Carr will be gone for 2 years now. I'll believe it when I see it.

Claiborne.......it is what it is with him. He's been injury prone and underachieved thus far in his career. They could've cut him but didn't. That says more that they want to give him a shot and they have. Whether he's brought back or not I don't know. But they have to like what they've seen thus far. Not excercising that last year might allow for them to be able to re-sign him for a lot cheaper than they would if he had two solid seasons in a row.

 

[Setackin]

I give a third for Jeffrey, today.

Injured and doesn't know offense

 

[GroundZero1970]

Leary for Jeffrey or forte straight up. Collins is ready

 

[conner01]

If it will help us win more football games then I have no problem Jerry spending 25 million a year on 2 receivers lol.

You can't spend 25 million a year on just two wr's
It's just not possible unless you want half your team to be UDFA

 

[conner01]

We are years down the line before even thinking about giving guys on this offensive line a new deal though.

Not as long as you think and dez contract as well as any contract you sign another WR for will go well past the point you have to sign our oline guys
These guys aren't signing one or two year deals

 

[conner01]

Roy Williams was a one hit wonder wide receiver, who was slow and didn't add anything to our offense. We could have gotten Boldin for cheaper and he was a better player.

Comparing things to the Roy Williams trade is a false equivalence.

You don't have to pay these guys if you don't want to keep them, but if they deliver a super bowl... I'll take it.

You don't have to pay them
You can give a premium draft pick to rent a guy for one year
You could probably make 20 trades like that tomorrow
Most any team would love to trade off a guy in the last year of their contract for a premium pick
The reason teams don't make those trades is you then lose that player after one year and miss out on the years of a rookie deal the draft pick got
That's why guys in the last year of a contract bring much lower picks because of the contract you have to give them