Perfectly put by Mike Fisher

[DFWJC]

I mean it's more nuanced than that.

You draft bpa.

But you group players by tiers and you absolutely draft for need within tiers.

Just don't see why more don't get this.
BPA is not absolute but it does make total sense within a tiered concept.

Trades also help you better match up a need with your board

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Just don't see why more don't get this.
BPA is not absolute but it does make total sense within a tiered concept.

Trades also help you better match up a need with your board

The idea of a player being number 1 on a board and another being number 2....people take that relative rank way to strictly.

 

[Nightman]

Just don't see why more don't get this.
BPA is not absolute but it does make total sense within a tiered concept.

Trades also help you better match up a need with your board

That is why I said rules or mantras are useless.

The draft is mainly out of your control. You can't always trade up or back, you need a partner.

We try to mix BPA with value early and then go RKG later. I would call it a mixed bag.

Lee and Collins(UDFA we went after hard) were wins and Carter and Gregory have been losses.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I've said this for years, but never as succinctly as Mike Fisher put it.

"Drafting for need is football suicide. Needs come and go. Talent stays for 12 years."

That's exactly right.

And I agree with that.

The challenge is that some positions are "12-year" positions.

Others are more like "5-year" positions now.

 

[Section446]

And that is why you stay away from Bosa at 4.

 

[dragon_mikal]

And that is why you stay away from Bosa at 4.

What if Bosa feels a need and has a great 12 year career?

Not that I'm advocating for Bosa but it is entirely possible he has a pretty good career.

 

[jimmy40]

if you never draft for need your always going to need a lot

 

[Bowdown27]

Why I think it's either Ramsey or Elliot.

 

[Oh_Canada]

RB doesn't fit this the quote you EE fanatics, zero chance he is playing at a high level at 33 yo. In fact it's far more likely he will be three years out of the league by than.

That is why it's Bosa or Ramsey.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That is why I said rules or mantras are useless.

The draft is mainly out of your control. You can't always trade up or back, you need a partner.

We try to mix BPA with value early and then go RKG later. I would call it a mixed bag.

Lee and Collins(UDFA we went after hard) were wins and Carter and Gregory have been losses.

Having a philosophy is not useless. Like what in the world dude.

 

[coult44]

I've said this for years, but never as succinctly as Mike Fisher put it.

"Drafting for need is football suicide. Needs come and go. Talent stays for 12 years."

That's exactly right.

So if Tunsil is there you must take him. You can't pass on that type of talent. Could be a franchise type OL for a very long time.

 

[Nightman]

Having a philosophy is not useless. Like what in the world dude.

Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the nose

 

[jday]

Drafting rules are useless. Every draft is different. You never know what position may get a run or how trades will change the board.

Drafting for need is how you fill holes. Do you take the 8th best CB or the best OC because the CB is rated a little higher but you need an OC.

What if you have Witten at TE. Do you take TEs in the 2nd round because they have the highest rating? And who's ratings are you using because yours may be inherently biased.

The other part of the equation that very rarely get's discussed is that the so-called "experts" are typically guys who have never even sniffed an actual scouting office or have been a significant part of any organization for that matter. The "experts" are guys who went to college to learn how to write for the newspaper and/or talk on the radio. Their expertise is typically the result of regurgitating the guys that came before them.

All the while, the actual football teams put together a draft board that ideally works its way down from who helps the team the most to who helps the team the least. More than likely they also put together similar boards for 31 other teams so they can attempt to predict how the draft will shake out and rather or not it will be necessary to trade up or down to get as many guys as their board likes as is possible.

Following the draft the mediots and talking heads will have the audacity to prejudge how each team made out and get paid handsomely for doing so because idiots like us just can't get enough of it, regardless of how much sense it actually makes or if they turn out to be right come season end. If they are right, they will write up or discuss on their medium of choice how they were right. If they were wrong, you will never here or read about an actual retraction.

Take, for instance, the nonsense that people have taken as the gospel that you should never draft a certain position in the first round. It has long been my contention that the Cowboys absolutely should draft Zeke at 4, if a small trade down doesn't materialize, because out of all the potential candidates to take, he has the potential to help the team as a whole more than anyone. One single defense player is not going to fix the defense, much less help the entire team like Zeke could.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the nose

Nice cliche.

Organizational philosophy is not useless.

Such an asinine comment.

 

[Fletch]

I've said this for years, but never as succinctly as Mike Fisher put it.

"Drafting for need is football suicide. Needs come and go. Talent stays for 12 years."

That's exactly right.

And tomorrow is Monday.

 

[AbeBeta]

So the standard draft rule of drafting BPA should stand...however some confuse this with Best Athlete Available....

So if Ramsey is the BAA and Zeke is the BPA....who should you take?

Zeke is BPA. But the idea that a running back is going to stay for 12 years just doesn't line up with reality.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

I've said this for years, but never asccinctly as Mike Fisher put it.

"Drafting for need is football suicide. Needs come and go. Talent stays for 12 years."

That's exactly right.

There has to be some level of need in place, otherwise the pick is pointless. With that said reaching for a player just to fill your primary need isnt a prudent srtategy and you should look for your 2nd and 3rd need to see who is the best available.

 

[CF74]

I needs a new precious, ya know, a ring...

 

[Nightman]

Nice cliche.

Organizational philosophy is not useless.

Such an asinine comment.

I'll try to elaborate more for you next time so you can understand the nuance

 

[silver]

So the standard draft rule of drafting BPA should stand...however some confuse this with Best Athlete Available....

So if Ramsey is the BAA and Zeke is the BPA....who should you take?

Zeke