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[Dallas]

Let hope that OU does not embarrass the Big 12 once again. I could careless about the OU fans being an embarrassment but I put the Big 12 conference in higher regards. Let me say an Almost loss is still a win something OU has not been doing in recent Bowl games. :laugh2:

At least we are still in it.


Now please allow the Gators and Sooners some respect as they prepare for Thursdays National Championship game.

Thank you for playing Texas.

 

[Doomsday101]

At least we are still in it.


Now please allow the Gators and Sooners some respect as they prepare for Thursdays National Championship game.

Thank you for playing Texas.

Only because they play the game later as scheduled. As for the Gator and Sooners after Thursday one will be named the BCS National Champion like it or not Major College football is the only sport where you are National Champ by opinion only because of a voter and or computer. That needs to change. In the meantime I hope OU does the big 12 proud we deserve that.

 

[Dallas]

Only because they play the game later as scheduled. As for the Gator and Sooners after Thursday one will be named the BCS National Champion like it or not Major College football is the only sport where you are National Champ by opinion only because of a voter and or computer. That needs to change. In the meantime I hope OU does the big 12 proud we deserve that.

Big 12 proud? You can keep that we deserve nonsense to yourself. I used to think that until some Texas fans on here set me straight.

I pulled for Ohio State lastnight, because I can't stand Texas.


Oklahoma doesn't play for the Big 12 anything. Oklahoma is playing for the crystal ball, and that is all that matters.

1 more NC

 

[Doomsday101]

Big 12 proud? You can keep that we deserve nonsense to yourself. I used to think that until some Texas fans on here set me straight.

I pulled for Ohio State lastnight, because I can't stand Texas.


Oklahoma doesn't play for the Big 12 anything. Oklahoma is playing for the crystal ball, and that is all that matters.

1 more NC

As I said regardless of the OU classless fans or not I have pulled for every Big 12 team this bowl season and will do so Thursday but believe me I will not cry over a loss by OU. :laugh2:

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Big 12 proud? You can keep that we deserve nonsense to yourself. I used to think that until some Texas fans on here set me straight.

I pulled for Ohio State lastnight, because I can't stand Texas.


Oklahoma doesn't play for the Big 12 anything. Oklahoma is playing for the crystal ball, and that is all that matters.

1 more NC

I normally root for the Big East in bowl games....but I can't bring myself to root for Pitt in any game.:laugh2:

 

[Hank Johnson]

Only because they play the game later as scheduled. As for the Gator and Sooners after Thursday one will be named the BCS National Champion like it or not Major College football is the only sport where you are National Champ by opinion only because of a voter and or computer. That needs to change. In the meantime I hope OU does the big 12 proud we deserve that.

I personally think the system got it right, and has gotten it right every year.

Unfortunately, people will continue to whine, cry, ***** and moan about everything as long as THEIR team isn't a part of it.

We NEED A PLAYOFF. Not because the system we have is flawed, but because some fans just don't know how to put the tissues up and enjoy the greatest thing in all of sports. COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Big 12 proud? You can keep that we deserve nonsense to yourself. I used to think that until some Texas fans on here set me straight.

I pulled for Ohio State lastnight, because I can't stand Texas.


Oklahoma doesn't play for the Big 12 anything. Oklahoma is playing for the crystal ball, and that is all that matters.

1 more NC

Hey, I hope you do win, finally.

 

[CATCH17]

I personally think the system got it right, and has gotten it right every year.

Unfortunately, people will continue to whine, cry, ***** and moan about everything as long as THEIR team isn't a part of it.

We NEED A PLAYOFF. Not because the system we have is flawed, but because some fans just don't know how to put the tissues up and enjoy the greatest thing in all of sports. COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

That is your opinion. That is not a fact.

Its hard to enjoy a sport that doesn't have a legit Championship and lets voters decide title games instead of teams deciding that.

 

[jimmy40]

That is your opinion. That is not a fact.

Its hard to enjoy a sport that doesn't have a legit Championship and lets voters decide title games instead of teams deciding that.

What sucks are bowl games with no meaning. USC, Texas and Alabama didn't want to be there, at least USC showed up ready to play. Props to Pete Carroll for that.

 

[CATCH17]

What sucks are bowl games with no meaning. USC, Texas and Alabama didn't want to be there, at least USC showed up ready to play. Props to Pete Carroll for that.

Completely agree.

Bowl games have close to 0 meaning.

Why does College football have so many meaningless games at the end of a season?

Even the BCS titles don't mean jack if you have your opponents outmatched.

 

[joseephuss]

I personally think the system got it right, and has gotten it right every year.

Unfortunately, people will continue to whine, cry, ***** and moan about everything as long as THEIR team isn't a part of it.

We NEED A PLAYOFF. Not because the system we have is flawed, but because some fans just don't know how to put the tissues up and enjoy the greatest thing in all of sports. COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

Sorry, but Nebraska did not deserve to be in the national championship game in 2001and OU did not deserve it in 2003. Those teams lost their last regular season games of their respective years(OU in the Big 12 championship game) Not only did each team lose, but both got their butts whooped.

It is one thing to lose a tough game and still get a shot at the championship. We saw that this season with OU and Texas. Both teams have a legitimate argument as to why they deserved a shot at the title and OU got it. Their respective losses this season were in close games. That was not the case in 2001 for the Cornhuskers or 2003 for the Sooners. They got owned in the games they lost and it was a premonition of what was to come in the MNC games that played those years. They got killed in those as well.

I think OSU going to the MNC last year was also a mistake. They were not a top two team by the end of last season and it showed in the MNC game.

 

[CATCH17]

Sorry, but Nebraska did not deserve to be in the national championship game in 2001and OU did not deserve it in 2003. Those teams lost their last regular season games of their respective years(OU in the Big 12 championship game) Not only did each team lose, but both got their butts whooped.

It is one thing to lose a tough game and still get a shot at the championship. We saw that this season with OU and Texas. Both teams have a legitimate argument as to why they deserved a shot at the title and OU got it. Their respective losses this season were in close games. That was not the case in 2001 for the Cornhuskers or 2003 for the Sooners. They got owned in the games they lost and it was a premonition of what was to come in the MNC games that played those years. They got killed in those as well.

I think OSU going to the MNC last year was also a mistake. They were not a top two team by the end of last season and it showed in the MNC game.

Hank is just trying to show that he is un-biased but at the same time is making himself look very out of touch in the process.

I like you Hank. You seem like a good dude. But be for real... You're confident College football got it right every year?

2000 Miami beating Florida State and Florida State getting in over Miami....

Miami only proved for the following 2 year they were a premiere team in College.

I used to be the biggest Husker fan ever. We had no business being there in 2001. (especially if how well you play at the end of the season really matters) (annihlated by Colorado)

OU getting throttled by K State deserved to be in over USC who lost to Cal in double OT? Come on man. (Once again... Dont tell me how you play down the stretch matters)

Auburn anyone? Leinart set every record imaginable because that year, like this year, people get fooled by OU's offense and forget about an important phase of the game called defense.

Humans are biased. They can't help it.

Their are a lot of fans who see more games than the people voting even get to see. Especially the coaches.

ESPN persuades.

ABC pushes' big 12

NBC pushes Notre Dame

CBS pushes SEC

I dont want opinions. I want to see teams play.

 

[joseephuss]

Hank is just trying to show that he is un-biased but at the same time is making himself look very out of touch in the process.

I like you Hank. You seem like a good dude. But be for real... You're confident College football got it right every year?

2000 Miami beating Florida State and Florida State getting in over Miami....

Miami only proved for the following 2 year they were a premiere team in College.

I used to be the biggest Husker fan ever. We had no business being there in 2001. (especially if how well you play at the end of the season really matters) (annihlated by Colorado)

OU getting throttled by K State deserved to be in over USC who lost to Cal in double OT? Come on man. (Once again... Dont tell me how you play down the stretch matters)

Auburn anyone? Leinart set every record imaginable because that year, like this year, people get fooled by OU's offense and forget about an important phase of the game called defense.

Humans are biased. They can't help it.

Their are a lot of fans who see more games than the people voting even get to see. Especially the coaches.

ESPN persuades.

ABC pushes' big 12

NBC pushes Notre Dame

CBS pushes SEC

I dont want opinions. I want to see teams play.

The computer polls are also somewhat biased. They are limited based on what the person thinks is important data. The statistics can be skewed anyone way the biased people want them to be. The data can be skewed to favor teams with high powered offenses or teams with great defenses.

 

[Hank Johnson]

Hank is just trying to show that he is un-biased but at the same time is making himself look very out of touch in the process.

I like you Hank. You seem like a good dude. But be for real... You're confident College football got it right every year?

2000 Miami beating Florida State and Florida State getting in over Miami....

Miami only proved for the following 2 year they were a premiere team in College.

I used to be the biggest Husker fan ever. We had no business being there in 2001. (especially if how well you play at the end of the season really matters) (annihlated by Colorado)

OU getting throttled by K State deserved to be in over USC who lost to Cal in double OT? Come on man. (Once again... Dont tell me how you play down the stretch matters)

Auburn anyone? Leinart set every record imaginable because that year, like this year, people get fooled by OU's offense and forget about an important phase of the game called defense.

Humans are biased. They can't help it.

Their are a lot of fans who see more games than the people voting even get to see. Especially the coaches.

ESPN persuades.

ABC pushes' big 12

NBC pushes Notre Dame

CBS pushes SEC

I dont want opinions. I want to see teams play.

The only point you make to me is that there should be a +1 (if necessary) system installed. I know you want a playoff, but your Miami, Auburn debates are very worthy and BOTH of those teams deserved a shot.

I hate going back on my word like this, but I have to admit that Auburn not getting a shot when going undefeated in the SEC is an absolute CRIME. I'm not too disturbed with the Miami snub because FSU had one of the best offenses of all time and were the deserving team. Miami lost a game as well. Can't remember which one, but it was probably worse than FSU's loss, even if it were against the Canes.

The BCS has been tweaked since '03 I believe and I doubt we'll get another team getting in the NC game with a loss like OU's in their '03 CCG.

People just need to quit crying and enjoy what greatness is. If you take care of business, you will be fine. You lose, everything's up in the air.

It's better than having a team like NY crowned as the best when Dallas beat them twice, and NE's only loss came in the damn bowl.

The NFL and a playoff does exactly what you are against. It rewards teams that do the best at the end instead of start to finish. It's ok to dislike the system, but understand that some of us think it's pretty badass to see a team crowned for being badasses from start to finish and not from January to the Super Bowl.

 

[CATCH17]

The only point you make to me is that there should be a +1 (if necessary) system installed. I know you want a playoff, but your Miami, Auburn debates are very worthy and BOTH of those teams deserved a shot.

I hate going back on my word like this, but I have to admit that Auburn not getting a shot when going undefeated in the SEC is an absolute CRIME. I'm not too disturbed with the Miami snub because FSU had one of the best offenses of all time and were the deserving team. Miami lost a game as well. Can't remember which one, but it was probably worse than FSU's loss, even if it were against the Canes.

The BCS has been tweaked since '03 I believe and I doubt we'll get another team getting in the NC game with a loss like OU's in their '03 CCG.

People just need to quit crying and enjoy what greatness is. If you take care of business, you will be fine. You lose, everything's up in the air.

It's better than having a team like NY crowned as the best when Dallas beat them twice, and NE's only loss came in the damn bowl.

The NFL and a playoff does exactly what you are against. It rewards teams that do the best at the end instead of start to finish. It's ok to dislike the system, but understand that some of us think it's pretty badass to see a team crowned for being badasses from start to finish and not from January to the Super Bowl.

So USC didn't deserve to be in over OU after OU got crushed by K State at the end of the year?

I think USC proved that they were the better team the next season after they put a whoopin on OU that was so bad that it still haunts them to this day.

I know Nebraska had no business playing Miami after what the Buff's did to Nebraska. (at the end of the year.)

The bad *** from Start to finish argument holds no water. Especially when teams with 1 loss play for the title.

Miami lost a game as well. Can't remember which one, but it was probably worse than FSU's loss, even if it were against the Canes.

Do you not see how stupid this is?

You can not rank a team with indentical records 1 spot better than the other if the team 1 spot behind beat you.

That is ashame College Football can get away with that. Especially since the regular season is supposed to be some kind of playoff.

 

[Doomsday101]

I personally think the system got it right, and has gotten it right every year.

Unfortunately, people will continue to whine, cry, ***** and moan about everything as long as THEIR team isn't a part of it.

We NEED A PLAYOFF. Not because the system we have is flawed, but because some fans just don't know how to put the tissues up and enjoy the greatest thing in all of sports. COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

I don't think that is the case, I may be a Texas fan but I think other teams should be in the running for the National title and think in many cases it has not been clear cut who the best college team is. Last time we had anything close to a real National title was when the undefeated USC played the Undefeated Longhorns no other teams were undefeated. There have been some other cases over the years were this has happened but for the most part there normally is 3 to 4 teams who would have as much right to play for the national championship.

Lastly Major college football is the only sport where the National championship is based on opinions, votes and a computer all other college sports have a playoff which leaves no doubt in the end who is the best in any given year.

 

[Route 66]

You can not rank a team with indentical records 1 spot better than the other if the team 1 spot behind beat you.

That is ashame College Football can get away with that. Especially since the regular season is supposed to be some kind of playoff.

Tell that to the BCS then. Because you are arguing a point that is well, pointless. The rules were established this year so abide by them.

 

[Hank Johnson]

So USC didn't deserve to be in over OU after OU got crushed by K State at the end of the year?

I think USC proved that they were the better team the next season after they put a whoopin on OU that was so bad that it still haunts them to this day.

I know Nebraska had no business playing Miami after what the Buff's did to Nebraska. (at the end of the year.)

The bad *** from Start to finish argument holds no water. Especially when teams with 1 loss play for the title.



Do you not see how stupid this is?

You can not rank a team with indentical records 1 spot better than the other if the team 1 spot behind beat you.

That is ashame College Football can get away with that. Especially since the regular season is supposed to be some kind of playoff.

I told you somewhere in one of my posts that I doubt we'll ever see a team get in the NC after getting blown out in their CCG like OU did in '03. Yes, USC deserved to be in that game.

The badass argument is not all that bad. From start to finish, the teams who have the best wins, and the least of the ugly losses get a shot. I don't know why you would bring up your 1 loss argument. I doubt we'll be seeing any NC games with two, or even one undefeated team nearly as often as we used to.

Now, to meet you half way, Catch. I have looked back on the past title games of this decade and I somewhat concede to the playoff idea. Ohio State got to the NC game TWICE due to a horrible conference. They were there by default last season.

However, this year I truly believe the BCS got it right. After going over OU's schedule, wins, and losses, and UF's, I have come to the conclusion that with the quality wins, statement games, and least ugly losses, they both deserve to be there. Texas actually has a better case than UF, but not OU. I'm sorry, but the head to head thing doesn't hold water because OU beat more quality teams and their loss was not near as bad as UT's. Also, a 3-way system that MACK BROWN voted for included Texas Tech. You vote for the rules, you live by them. Funny thing is, they'll probably change it next year, and OU will end up getting the better of it and getting a head to head nod. I'll enjoy seeing the tears flow down here over that one.

If we have a playoff, SCRAP conference title games. Don't put a 4 loss ACC champion in there. I don't think it should be any higher than a BCS final 4 to be honest with you. An 8 team playoff would have teams involved that have no business being in there, while others get left out. Can you imagine a 4 loss ACC champion ranked let's say, 14, getting in there over a team with 1 loss that didn't win their conference but is ranked in the top 10?

As for teams like Utah, all I can say is schedule two powerhouses in your non con schedule and hope for the best. Either that or get out of that conference. You can't cry about something when all you do is beat bush league teams. I understand they beat Alabama. Maybe if they would've scheduled someone like that in the non con, they could've proved it then and not in the Sugar Bowl.

Bottom line for me is, this year the BCS got it right. Maybe not every year, but this year they did. I'm all for a small playoff so ppl will quit crying and everyone can be happy.

All I know is people really need to put aside their bias toward certain teams, and set aside their opinion of the playoff, and respect the NC game we have coming up tomorrow night. The two best teams in the nation are playing for all the marbles. Take off the head to head glasses and look at wins over ranked opponents. There's more to a season that just one game, unless that game is the NC game of course.

 

[Hank Johnson]

Tell that to the BCS then. Because you are arguing a point that is well, pointless. The rules were established this year so abide by them.

Exactly. Until we get a playoff, respect the champions and championships we have in place now.

You don't have to like it, but it's not OU or Florida's fault there are no playoffs. They both deserve a ton of respect and the winner of that game deserves the recognition of a NATIONAL CHAMPION by all.

 

[Hank Johnson]

I don't think that is the case, I may be a Texas fan but I think other teams should be in the running for the National title and think in many cases it has not been clear cut who the best college team is. Last time we had anything close to a real National title was when the undefeated USC played the Undefeated Longhorns no other teams were undefeated. There have been some other cases over the years were this has happened but for the most part there normally is 3 to 4 teams who would have as much right to play for the national championship.

Lastly Major college football is the only sport where the National championship is based on opinions, votes and a computer all other college sports have a playoff which leaves no doubt in the end who is the best in any given year.

I guess I can't really disagree with you.

Still, I truly believe we are getting the best NC matchup this year.

We need a BCS final four.