Peter King: Jaylon's Nerve 80 Percent Regenerated

[CowboyRoy]

I am not putting any expectation on him. As for reinjuring at this point? If the team doctor felt he was running a risk of further injury to the knee then he would not be out there. I fully expect Jaylon to be playing week 1 of the season.

Playing how much? And havnet you noticed that he is out there doing very little? Isnt that the doctor saying he isnt ready to go full time yet?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dr @FuzzyLumpkins claimed it would be healed by July 2016. Oops.

I said it would regenerate down to the foot and begin to innervate by then. We've been talking about this for over a year and you still don't understand.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I said it would regenerate down to the foot and begin to innervate by then. We've been talking about this for over a year and you still don't understand.

That's because you keep altering your story every time new info comes out contra your claims.

You've been claiming since February that he wasn't wearing or needed a brace AT ALL.

You ran down every reporter that confirmed he was (wearing a brace). You even laughably claimed Stephen Jones didn't know the real/current status of Jaylon after he said Smith would still need to wear the brace.

When you try to speak as an authority don't be surprised when you get called-out for being wrong. Deal with it.

 

[big dog cowboy]

And havnet you noticed that he is out there doing very little? Isnt that the doctor saying he isnt ready to go full time yet?

No. Not at all.

 

[jwooten15]

You dont need to be a doctor to see that he isnt running with the first team and they are acting like the guy is on pins and needles with what they allow him to do. That should tell you all you need to know. for anyone to expect this guy to be starting from day #1 AND playing at a pro bowl level is a bit naive.

I was talking specifically about the "80%" thing.

As for his effectiveness, I think (hope, really) you'll be surprised!

 

[Wood]

Jaylon would probably need to get from 80% to 90-95% to be reliable NFL starter. For unknown reasons there was a delay in nerve regeneration but EMG scans have recently showed accelerated healing. Lets all stay positive but tap breaks on Jaylon hype train because its equally possible the healing stops in 80's %.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Jaylon would probably need to get from 80% to 90-95% to be reliable NFL starter. For unknown reasons there was a delay in nerve regeneration but EMG scans have recently showed accelerated healing. Lets all stay positive but tap breaks on Jaylon hype train because its equally possible the healing stops in 80's %.

The way one of the doctors around here put it, this nerve has nothing to do with his power, planting and push. All it does is bring his foot back up, and he's starting to get more and more strength there, but he doesn't need to get to 100% to be a near full strength. The brace helps with that last 5-15% it needs, and will be adjusted more and more as they go. So if it stops at 89%, doesn't mean he can't play. It'll probably be more than enough recovery for him to be back to normal

 

[Wood]

The way one of the doctors around here put it, this nerve has nothing to do with his power, planting and push. All it does is bring his foot back up, and he's starting to get more and more strength there, but he doesn't need to get to 100% to be a near full strength. The brace helps with that last 5-15% it needs, and will be adjusted more and more as they go. So if it stops at 89%, doesn't mean he can't play. It'll probably be more than enough recovery for him to be back to normal

one thing we tend to do is simplify medicals issues when in reality they are probably very complex as the body is employing hundreds if not thousands of counter measures to particular problem. So when we talk explosiveness of an athlete that could be incredibly complex list of things the body does right to make person special and play football at highest level. Many normal functions can return but question is does all boxes get checked in his body ability to recover that makes him special again. The good news is we have about 6-8 months to hope it all comes back.

 

[diefree666]

one thing we tend to do is simplify medicals issues when in reality they are probably very complex as the body is employing hundreds if not thousands of counter measures to particular problem. So when we talk explosiveness of an athlete that could be incredibly complex list of things the body does right to make person special and play football at highest level. Many normal functions can return but question is does all boxes get checked in his body ability to recover that makes him special again. The good news is we have about 6-8 months to hope it all comes back.

I actually doubt that there would be that much of a noticeable improvement. He has reached the point where only incremental differences will happen.

As several observers pointed out, he has the quickness, speed, power and maneuverability NOW. He just needs to scrape the rust off.

 

[Wood]

I actually doubt that there would be that much of a noticeable improvement. He has reached the point where only incremental differences will happen.

As several observers pointed out, he has the quickness, speed, power and maneuverability NOW. He just needs to scrape the rust off.

actually most of his nerve improvement has happened over past 4 months. He couldn't even lift his foot just few months ago. Now he can slightly. He still has drop foot which means he is far from just needing to scrape rust off. What needs to happen is continue to give him reps to get him back into football shape AND nerve needs to continue to heal. I would be very surprised to see him active on game day for first half of season. Really excited to see where he is in 6 months.

 

[JBS]

actually most of his nerve improvement has happened over past 4 months. He couldn't even lift his foot just few months ago. Now he can slightly. He still has drop foot which means he is far from just needing to scrape rust off. What needs to happen is continue to give him reps to get him back into football shape AND nerve needs to continue to heal. I would be very surprised to see him active on game day for first half of season. Really excited to see where he is in 6 months.

Rod says he will be active week 1

Just saying

 

[Wood]

Rod says he will be active week 1

Just saying

if players keep getting suspended he might be right

 

[Gaede]

That's because you keep altering your story every time new info comes out contra your claims.

You've been claiming since February that he wasn't wearing or needed a brace AT ALL.

You ran down every reporter that confirmed he was (wearing a brace). You even laughably claimed Stephen Jones didn't know the real/current status of Jaylon after he said Smith would still need to wear the brace.

When you try to speak as an authority don't be surprised when you get called-out for being wrong. Deal with it.

Would you guys just get a room already

 

[Bowdown27]

He said he was playing opening day. Idk if I see that.

 

[waldoputty]

Jaylon would probably need to get from 80% to 90-95% to be reliable NFL starter. For unknown reasons there was a delay in nerve regeneration but EMG scans have recently showed accelerated healing. Lets all stay positive but tap breaks on Jaylon hype train because its equally possible the healing stops in 80's %.

do we even know if 80% is 80% of EMG or 80% of muscle force output or something else?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

one thing we tend to do is simplify medicals issues when in reality they are probably very complex as the body is employing hundreds if not thousands of counter measures to particular problem. So when we talk explosiveness of an athlete that could be incredibly complex list of things the body does right to make person special and play football at highest level. Many normal functions can return but question is does all boxes get checked in his body ability to recover that makes him special again. The good news is we have about 6-8 months to hope it all comes back.

The peroneal muscle/nerve is irrelevant to explosion. Your calf is what pushes off and his was not injured.

The peroneal resets the foot into the upright position. Response time and not strength is the key. Shoes are not heavy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

do we even know if 80% is 80% of EMG or 80% of muscle force output or something else?

It probably EMG but who knows.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

actually most of his nerve improvement has happened over past 4 months. He couldn't even lift his foot just few months ago. Now he can slightly. He still has drop foot which means he is far from just needing to scrape rust off. What needs to happen is continue to give him reps to get him back into football shape AND nerve needs to continue to heal. I would be very surprised to see him active on game day for first half of season. Really excited to see where he is in 6 months.

You don't know when he was able to lift his foot. He said in a recent interview that the difference between this year and last is that this year he could lift his foot when he could not last year. Well that is not definitive it certainly implies that it was much earlier than you claim.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Would you guys just get a room already

I put him on ignore last week. I used to worry people were buying what he was selling and felt the need to defend myself but I think everybody realizes that he's just trolling

 

[waldoputty]

You don't know when he was able to lift his foot. He said in a recent interview that the difference between this year and last is that this year he could lift his foot when he could not last year. Well that is not definitive it certainly implies that it was much earlier than you claim.

they say he is walking without brace and only wearing brace for practice due to the need for fast response.

i dont remember source.