Petitti sucks

[Hostile]

For those to assume that I am supporting Pettiti because his old man posts here, I take umbridge with that. If I really felt Rob sucked, I'd say so. But, when I look at Rob I see a rookie that sometimes looks pretty good, sometimes sucks, and sometimes is in between. Unless you're a high first round pick, that's typically what happens to most rookies.

For the most part, I'm pleased with the pass protection the O-Line is giving Bledsoe. In fact, I think once they get Crayton back, the pass protection will look even better as let's face it, Useless Price is pretty much a non-factor. I'm at the point where I'd rather see more of Terrence Copper than Useless Price right now.

Anyway, Rivera has been pretty poor for the most part and I think Al Johnson might be better off as a guard than a center. Good centers are typically more of a factor in the running game. Unfortunately, Johnson seems to be a pretty good pass protector, but rather lousy in creating lanes in the running game. That, and we do miss Flozell's run blocking dearly.

But, I thought Rob did okay for the most part yesterday. Especially considering that the refs missed at least 3 offsides penalties early in the game. In the end, Rob has played about as well as I could hope for him to play this year. If he was Jammal Brown, I'd have higher expectations. Instead, he's a 6th round rookie and he's simply not going to be the next Art Shell right out of the gate.


Rich...........

I'm with you Rich. If I felt he was horrible I'd say it and I respect his Father a lot and appreciate the inside scoops he's given us.

I don't see what so many are griping about. Anthony Munoz is the only Tackle I can remember who never got beat. Expectations are too high or the attention he gets here is annoying to some.

I don't know why.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'm with you Rich. If I felt he was horrible I'd say it and I respect his Father a lot and appreciate the inside scoops he's given us.

I don't see what so many are griping about. Anthony Munoz is the only Tackle I can remember who never got beat. Expectations are too high or the attention he gets here is annoying to some.

I don't know why.

If I felt that Pettiti sucked, I would say word for word "he sucks." I don't think there's anything too inappropriate about saying "he sucks." But, calling his a loser or saying he's not tough or similar type of cat calls is uncalled for.

Even still, the INT by Bledsoe, the audible by Bledsoe, and more importantly the missed FG is why they lost the game. And even for the most part, I'd take the way Drew played yesterday.

Hopefully Parcells will realize that he's got to be uber aggressive on offense as they cannot rely on a kicker to get the job done.

Rich.......

 

[Bobo]

2. I'm not asking the guy to come out and play like an all pro. Just play AVERAGE. That's all I ask. And news flash, "Only 4 holding calls, 4 false starts, and 5 or 6 sacks" is NOT good. By the way, he's had MORe holding calls that weren't accepted. NOT TO MENTION THE PLAYS HE JUST LETS HIS MAN GO CUZ OF MENTAL ERRORS.

1st round pick Alex Barron has had 13 penalties in 7 games started and 3.5 sacks. 2nd round pick Michael Roos has had 9 penalties and 5.5 sacks in 10 games started. Petitti has had 5 penalties and 7 sacks in 11 games started.

At least according to those #'s, his mental errors aren't that bad as far as penalties go. I've seen a lot of Roos this year, and he's made a lot of rookie mistakes. Now I've only seen about half the Cowboy games this year, but from what I saw, Petitti looked average for a rookie. I remember seeing him miss an assignment (at least I thought he should have picked the guy up). I remember seeing him get beat on a speed rush. Seems like he has to rely more on technique than athleticism. I'd expect him to be wiser the 2nd year, so those mental errors should drop. That is if he can keep his starting job.

 

[Hostile]

1st round pick Alex Barron has had 13 penalties in 7 games started and 3.5 sacks. 2nd round pick Michael Roos has had 9 penalties and 5.5 sacks in 10 games started. Petitti has had 5 penalties and 7 sacks in 11 games started.

At least according to those #'s, his mental errors aren't that bad as far as penalties go. I've seen a lot of Roos this year, and he's made a lot of rookie mistakes. Now I've only seen about half the Cowboy games this year, but from what I saw, Petitti looked average for a rookie. I remember seeing him miss an assignment (at least I thought he should have picked the guy up). I remember seeing him get beat on a speed rush. Seems like he has to rely more on technique than athleticism. I'd expect him to be wiser the 2nd year, so those mental errors should drop. That is if he can keep his starting job.

Very nice post.

 

[Dallas]

I like it when Rack posts all in CAPS. Like we dont already know the guy has to scream everything so that his point is more widely accepted. Talk about trying to convince yourself.

Regardless - Rob is doing a fine job for where he was selected. People honestly think Parcells keeps him out there - BECAUSE HE SUCKS ???

Step off..

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The whole OL played lousy. Petitti was a major culprit - but I realize he is a rookie 6th round pick. Looking at Tucker, he's a 2nd year undrafted FA.

Not downplaying their play, but this really comes down to BP and Jerry for not doing a better job at player acquisition.
Missing badly on so many high draft picks on the OL in recent years has resulted in us having to start inexperienced and low draftees and/or UDFA's.

We knew OL, RT and RG was a major problem for us going into the offseason last year and all we did was sign Rivera, who imo has been a major disappointment, and draft an OT in the 6th round. It's not really Petitti's fault our personnel is so bad that he's been forced to start all season.

c'mon, look at the acquisitions on D, Parcells was focused on improving his D, he did that, I think it's time we stop questioning Parcells' talent evaluation abilities

can't fix every hole in one offseason

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Speaking of Ratliff, he was a 6th round pick and was playing GOOD. Why can't I at least ask Petitti to play AVERAGE?

Ratliff was a role player, Pettiti is a starter, alot tougher position to be in, esp. at a position, OT, that usually takes a couple years for rookies to get acclimated too

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You know, guys... Although Parcells obviously wants to win every single game, IMO he is building this team for next year. Do you think he really expects to win the Super Bowl this year with so many rookies and a brand new defensive scheme? He and Jeff Ireland have mentioned several times how much better the rookies will be next year. And if you remember, when Rogers got hurt again and it was obvious Parcells was giving up on him, rather than going out and getting a stopgap vet who would have been better in the short term, he pretty much made Rob the man right away. Why do you think he decided to do that?

Point being, Rob is a rookie, and all rookies have tough times. Parcells knows this as well as anyone, yet he went with him anyway. I personally suspect that losing all that weight so quickly was tough, and that Rob will be a completely different player after a full offseason of lifting and conditioning -- not to mention experience -- next year.

you are in a elite, and exclusive company, the ones who listen to Parcells, kudos man

 

[Qwickdraw]

Mr. and Mrs. Cundiff?



You there?















Just checking.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I guess I don't get what the big deal is here.

Should JJT or Mickey or other writers not criticize players because they have family that might be reading? \

no, but when they know for certain that a family member is going to be reading, then they should...

everyone knows Pittdawg frequents this forum, although he doesn't post much

 

[Rack]

1st round pick Alex Barron has had 13 penalties in 7 games started and 3.5 sacks. 2nd round pick Michael Roos has had 9 penalties and 5.5 sacks in 10 games started. Petitti has had 5 penalties and 7 sacks in 11 games started.

At least according to those #'s, his mental errors aren't that bad as far as penalties go. I've seen a lot of Roos this year, and he's made a lot of rookie mistakes. Now I've only seen about half the Cowboy games this year, but from what I saw, Petitti looked average for a rookie. I remember seeing him miss an assignment (at least I thought he should have picked the guy up). I remember seeing him get beat on a speed rush. Seems like he has to rely more on technique than athleticism. I'd expect him to be wiser the 2nd year, so those mental errors should drop. That is if he can keep his starting job.

1. I can care less about the Rams or ALex Barron. My only concern is the cowboys.

2. The Rams probably protect their tackles LESS then anyone in the NFL. So those numbers for a rookie tackle aren't bad considering he rarely gets help.


And enough with the "For a rookie" crap. I want him to play AVERAGE. Average for an NFL football player. Period. "For a whatever" is irrelevant.


And I just wonder how many of you that are defending him to the death are the same ones that complain about our conservative playcalling. Those of you that are, need to learn the game. 2 + 2, People.

I like it when Rack posts all in CAPS.

I'M HAPPY THAT YOU DO. I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR YOU READING PLEASURE.

Ratliff was a role player, Pettiti is a starter, alot tougher position to be in, esp. at a position, OT, that usually takes a couple years for rookies to get acclimated too

Fair enough. But "a couple of years to get acclimated" is irrelevant to THIS season.

And yes, Dallas, that "THIS", was jsut for you.


The reason I want him to play better is so we'll actually have a chance to do something in the playoffs. As of right now, the way our tackles are playing, Peppers and Rucker are gonna set single game records against us (yes, that's an exhaggeration).

you are in a elite, and exclusive company, the ones who listen to Parcells, kudos man

...

Shall I list every quote Parcells has said about players no longer on the team? Hell, how about the ones no longer in the NFL?


Here's one for you... Delaroy Stewart. I got more, trust me.


Those of you that base your decisions SOLELY (another one for you, Dallas) what Parcells said are nothing but zombies. Try and come up with your own opinions instead of just saying "Well Parcells said this" and "Parcells said that".

Mr. and Mrs. Cundiff?



You there?


Just checking.

No kidding. All the sudden we got so many over sensitive posters here. Many of them the same guys that pretty much wanted to chop Quincy Carter's head off themselves. What, did they reform?

Didn't Willie Blade's sister post here? Don't recall anyone getting over sensitive when people made fun of Blade taking a dump in his uniform.


Freakin' suck ups.

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

Comparing Rob and Quincy is plain stupid.
Quincy had drug problems and if you choose to par take in that lifestyle how can you be working as hard as someone who is not...

When you have 50 plus men who count on each other as much as they do in the NFL you have to know that the guy next to you is going to be there in mind and body , If you can not give that to your teammates you should not be there.

Rob from what I see is a smart guy who loves the game.
That being said he is a rookie who is a Big dude and at Pitt with his size alone he could probably dominate most foe....
He lost a lot of weight in the off season and probably some strenth with it , but he lost all that weight , because of how badly he wants it...I think an off season of getting stronger will do wonders for this kid...
I am not at all disappointed with Rob's play ...He is a rookie regardless of what round he went in and all rookies have to develope physically and if they have the smarts , skills ,want to and keep the nose clean then most with the above attributes will go a long way...
Plus remember unless you are a DB when a defensive guy makes a mistake it is not as noticiable as a Offensive line making them...

I am not in any way writing this to kiss any butt.. I will never meet Pittdawg and even if I did what would that matter....

I was not even going to write on this form because I thought it should have been deleted at the start..
I felt I had to because I could no longer take the Quincy/Rob crap.
Most fans would love to have guys on their team that work hard and keep clean but I guess not all...

 

[Hostile]

No kidding. All the sudden we got so many over sensitive posters here. Many of them the same guys that pretty much wanted to chop Quincy Carter's head off themselves. What, did they reform?

Didn't Willie Blade's sister post here? Don't recall anyone getting over sensitive when people made fun of Blade taking a dump in his uniform.


Freakin' suck ups.

You're saying no one stuck up for Quincy?

Yes, Blade's sister was a member and yes she left.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

I'm actually with Rack on this one. Rack posted his opinion yet, a majority of you are insulting him for it. He used strong words and some felt insulted. Tough it up. You guys seem to have the horse blinders on. This is life, and for some being a Cowboy fan is life or a major part of it, we all respect Rob, Pittdawg and every other family member of every current Cowboy. We are all Cowboy fans, brush off the harsh words and voice your opinion, don't insult others.

 

[Rack]

You're saying no one stuck up for Quincy?

Yes, Blade's sister was a member and yes she left.

Nah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying no one stuck up for Quincy cuz "one of his family members might see the post".


They defended him (myself included), but not for that reason.


That said, what I said about Petitti doesn't compare to what some people here said about Carter. I called Petitti the pope compared to what some of the clowns here said about Carter.


I did step over the line calling him a loser. That was stupid and uncalled for. And not relevant to football. I apologize for that.

Comparing Rob and Quincy is plain stupid.
Quincy had drug problems and if you choose to par take in that lifestyle how can you be working as hard as someone who is not...

Saying that the comparison between the insults Petitti gets and the insults Carter is "Stupid" because of Carter's drug problem is completely ignorant.


No one knew about Carter's drug problem when people were insulting his tongue, skin color, intelligence, speech impediment, etc...

That said, NO ONE in this thread has made any such kind of insult towards Petitti.

 

[Rack]

I'm actually with Rack on this one. Rack posted his opinion yet, a majority of you are insulting him for it. He used strong words and some felt insulted. Tough it up. You guys seem to have the horse blinders on. This is life, and for some being a Cowboy fan is life or a major part of it, we all respect Rob, Pittdawg and every other family member of every current Cowboy. We are all Cowboy fans, brush off the harsh words and voice your opinion, don't insult others.

If I had made the exact same post about, ohhhhh, Torrin Tucker the majority of the board would have agreed and no one would of got over sensitive about the possibility of his family members seeing the post.


And there's at least 2 reasons for that.

 

[Dallas]

I think everyone is talking about posting w/ tact and class. Something the author has none of. For one he knows Robs father posts here. There are ways of stating ones opinion w/o treading on folks feelings. Rack - will not have none of that. Its your typical forum bully mentality.

Pittidawg has done nothing but to help us get some insightful news concerning Rob and the Cowboys. The author knows this but instead of taking the high road - he has to resort to personal attacks against Rob knowing his pops is around. Its kind of an M.O actually.

Time to grow up IRL yo. =P

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No kidding. All the sudden we got so many over sensitive posters here. Many of them the same guys that pretty much wanted to chop Quincy Carter's head off themselves. What, did they reform?

Didn't Willie Blade's sister post here? Don't recall anyone getting over sensitive when people made fun of Blade taking a dump in his uniform.


Freakin' suck ups.

why are you doing what you've *****ed about? grouping people into groups they dont' belong in? I'm not one of those people, and the only one getting overly sensitive here is you, you've done nothing but *****ed yourself through this whole thread, don't know why Pettiti is the subject of all your anger, instead, you should be blaming our lousy kicking situation for holding us back, by leaving GIMME points on the field

 

[Rack]

Speaking of growing up, where did I give Petitti or his father a personal attack?

And it's funny YOU being over sensitive about someone's feelings. That's a f'in riot.

 

[Tyler Durden]

I think everyone is talking about posting w/ tact and class. Something the author has none of. For one he knows Robs father posts here. There are ways of stating ones opinion w/o treading on folks feelings. Rack - will not have none of that. Its your typical forum bully mentality.

Pittidawg has done nothing but to help us get some insightful news concerning Rob and the Cowboys. The author knows this but instead of taking the high road - he has to resort to personal attacks against Rob knowing his pops is around. Its kind of an M.O actually.

Time to grow up IRL yo. =P

It's a message board. About football.

Jesus, there are some real sensitive people here.

Glad to see there is no shortage of people who think so highly of themselves that they can tell other people how to express themselves.

But I still love this place.