Petitti sucks

[Tass]

I guess I don't get what the big deal is here.

Should JJT or Mickey or other writers not criticize players because they have family that might be reading? \

Well, the 'big deal' is that JJT or Mickey would find a tactful and professional way to say that a player is playing below expectations or requirements. They wouldn't say "So-and-so SUCKS, y'all."

 

[bbgun]

He's playing like you'd expect a 6th rounder to play. It's not his fault he's starting.

 

[Wolverine]

When Ebenezer Ekuban handles you all day long, you KNOW you suck.


Petitti is nothing more then a solid backup at this point. We need a RT that we don't have to baby all game long. Tired of our offense being held back by that loser.

When he's not committing penalties, he's letting guys go free. Tucker, same thing, but at least he's doing a little better then Petitti and he's normally a BACKUP.


I hope Columbo gets healthy REAL fast. We need someone with talent over there.

This just makes me laugh. I remember how all kindsa people in here quite on Terence Newman last year and now look at him. He is one of the top 5 CBs in the NFL.

Now people are already giving up on Pettiti who only has played 11 NFL games.


Just like I NEVER quit on Newman last year I will not quit on Pettiti either. I will see how he does next year.

The man dropped from 370 lbs to 10 pounds lighter then what BP asked him to get to. Anyone who busts it that hard to do that will do the same to get better.

At least give him next year.

If we find a better RT then yeah put Pettiti as a back up. But I am not gonna give up on him already.

 

[VoR]

i will. i really enjoy reading this board because i love the passion and knowledge of the cowboy fans. that said, i'd like to point out that rob has only 2 holding and 4 false start penalties, 5 or 6 sacks, has played opposite many of the best d-ends in the nfl, played through numerous injuries including a concussion and a high ankle sprain incurred against detroit all the while not missing a single snap from scrimmage. his play has been steady and has worked extremely hard to bring his game up to the nfl level. i believe he has done very well, but i'm only his father and what would anyone expect me to think.

Don't worry.
Erik Williams and Larry Allen were once destroyed by Reggie White.They also had rookie seasons that were tough to watch at times and look at what they eventually became. I'm not writing off Rob myself, I think he reasonably needs another year or two to really judge - and even then some guys don't get it until YEARS later (i.e. WR Jimmy Smith, QB Rich Gannon).

The fact is everyone wants a goat when you lose. Although many guys had a rough game yesterday my goat is the coaching staff. Parcells or Payton , one or both of them, continued to use the small ball approach (running, passing short) even when they needed to get the ball downfield. The downfield passing attack was ALL they had that actually worked yesterday and the coaching staff declined to take advantage of it. Instead they fiddle faddled with passing short 3 yard routes or behind the line of scrimmage passes all game and lost this game for using it before the end of the half and at the end of regulation when they had chances to score. I place the blame not on the team, but squarely on the coaching staff.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Wow. Just wow on the title of this thread.

 

[VoR]

1. Quit with the "He's only a 6th round rookie" BS. Tucker was undrafted and he didn't get cut ANY slack. Petitti deserves to have no slack cut either.

5.


Speaking of Ratliff, he was a 6th round pick and was playing GOOD. Why can't I at least ask Petitti to play AVERAGE?

Totally different circumstances here.
Tucker has been in the league 4 years.
Ratliff was a backup and played sparingly. He wasn't starting every snap as Petitti is.

That being said many low round picks end up as good to great offensive linemen in due time. Especially guys with a good work ethic. I would take a low rounder with good work habits over a high pick with a lazy attitude anyday. So all the "he's just a low round pick" posts must also realize that doesn't mean that he doesn't have any potential.

 

[Sarge]

Well, the 'big deal' is that JJT or Mickey would find a tactful and professional way to say that a player is playing below expectations or requirements. They wouldn't say "So-and-so SUCKS, y'all."

Some just don't 'get it' though Tass.

 

[jem88]

The problem as I see it, is that there's somewhat of a Petitti backlash on this board. For a while, it was pretty obvious that some people were posting with the sole intention of getting Pittdawg's attention, as if it would somehow bring them closer to a player on their favourite team. Posts like 'hey Pittdawg, make sure you tell Rob just how much we love him at Cowboyszone!" were becoming fairly routine, especially during the early part of the season. So once that ploy become a bit too obvious, it seemed that the pendulum swung too far in the other direction and certain posters began to 'tell it like it is', almost to the point of exaggerating Petitti's struggles, thereby showing a cold, steely objectivity, one not swayed by the presence of family members.

As is usually the case, we need to be somewhere in the middle. Petitti deserves equal parts praise and criticism. Many announcers have had good things to say about him (granted we can't take their word as gospel but at least they're unaffected by Cowboyszone bias). However, he has clearly struggled recently (along with a number of other more experienced players.) I'm all for drafting the best OT available next year and getting the line sorted out. At the same time, given that we know there are relatives posting here, sharing insights and providing valuable information (ex. the news of Parcells' family tragedy), it might not hurt to temper the rhetoric a little. Now I'm not above making fun of players or coaches (Dave Campo will always be the mad leprechaun to me) but there's a difference between jokingly calling a guy a clown and aggresively saying he sucks 'in front of' family members who are likely suffering every bit as much as we are.

All that being said, I seriously doubt Pittdawg has given this whole thing more than a few seconds thought after first reading it. Let's hope his son will display a similar resolve and work through this tough time.

 

[diehard2294]

The problem as I see it, is that there's somewhat of a Petitti backlash on this board. For a while, it was pretty obvious that some people were posting with the sole intention of getting Pittdawg's attention, as if it would somehow bring them closer to a player on their favourite team. Posts like 'hey Pittdawg, make sure you tell Rob just how much we love him at Cowboyszone!" were becoming fairly routine, especially during the early part of the season. So once that ploy become a bit too obvious, it seemed that the pendulum swung too far in the other direction and certain posters began to 'tell it like it is', almost to the point of exaggerating Petitti's struggles, thereby showing a cold, steely objectivity, one not swayed by the presence of family members.

As is usually the case, we need to be somewhere in the middle. Petitti deserves equal parts praise and criticism. Many announcers have had good things to say about him (granted we can't take their word as gospel but at least they're unaffected by Cowboyszone bias). However, he has clearly struggled recently (along with a number of other more experienced players.) I'm all for drafting the best OT available next year and getting the line sorted out. At the same time, given that we know there are relatives posting here, sharing insights and providing valuable information (ex. the news of Parcells' family tragedy), it might not hurt to temper the rhetoric a little. Now I'm not above making fun of players or coaches (Dave Campo will always be the mad leprechaun to me) but there's a difference between jokingly calling a guy a clown and aggresively saying he sucks 'in front of' family members who are likely suffering every bit as much as we are.

All that being said, I seriously doubt Pittdawg has given this whole thing more than a few seconds thought after first reading it. Let's hope his son will display a similar resolve and work through this tough time.

good post

 

[jem88]

good post

Thanks!

 

[InDakWeTrust]

Why dont I come out and say Torrin Tucker sucked! He gave Courtney Brown about 3 free hits on Drew and I will add that Al and Rivera also sucked. They struggled with Mike Myers and Gerard Warren. The Oline is defintely what is holding us back. Its hard to run cuz we cant block and it's hard to throw the ball cuz we have to max protect Drew. LA IMO is the only Olineman playing who deserves some credit. I'm pulling for them to step up but I'm justing ranting so either agree or disagree don't knock someone's opinion cuz it is their's just post yours.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Some just don't 'get it' though Tass.

Yeah, like you.

I've seen people say so and so sucks on here a hundred times without a moderator coming in and chewing them out, just because their daddy is a member here.

If you can't speak your mind, it's a wasted effort.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, like you.

I've seen people say so and so sucks on here a hundred times without a moderator coming in and chewing them out, just because their daddy is a member here.

If you can't speak your mind, it's a wasted effort.

Read that Mod's response and mine to this accusation before.

You'll note we haven't killed the thread.

Not only that we did step in on many threads in the past.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Read that Mod's response and mine to this accusation before.

You'll note we haven't killed the thread.

I don't care what the response is, it happened.

Someone ripped Rob, and the feeling police swept in to protect PittDawg.

No big deal, it's you guys' message forum, you can do whatever you want.

 

[jem88]

Yeah, like you.

I've seen people say so and so sucks on here a hundred times without a moderator coming in and chewing them out, just because their daddy is a member here.

If you can't speak your mind, it's a wasted effort.

Well the mods are allowed to give an opinion as well, no? I don't recall any of the mods pulling rank and threatening to censor any anti-Petitti comments. So if getting told off by a poster who also happens to be a mod bothers you, than perhaps you are just being too sensitive.

 

[Hostile]

I don't care what the response is, it happened.

Someone ripped Rob, and the feeling police swept in to protect PittDawg.

No big deal, it's you guys' message forum, you can do whatever you want.

You're simply wrong.

I can easily remove this thread. I can easily remove the posts. I can change the title.

None of that happened, so take your "feeling police" nonsense and eat it.

 

[Tyler Durden]

than perhaps you are just being too sensitive.

Look around. I'm not the sensitive one here. This board rules, but sometimes it's a bit too touchy feely.

 

[Tyler Durden]

You're simply wrong.

I can easily remove this thread. I can easily remove the posts. I can change the title.

None of that happened, so take your "feeling police" nonsense and eat it.

Eat it? LOL

You told me, bro!

The premise of this thread was that Rob Petitti is a bad football player.

Not that he's an A-hole, not that he's a bad person, nor was it to bash his father.

Fact is, wether or not any changes were made, a staff member swept in to save face and take up for the feelings of Rob's dad.

If PittDawg can't handle criticisms of his son, often times harsh criticisms, he shouldn't read a message board. He's a big boy.

 

[Hostile]

Eat it? LOL

You told me, bro!

The premise of this thread was that Rob Petitti is a bad football player.

Not that he's an A-hole, not that he's a bad person, nor was it to bash his father.

Fact is, wether or not any changes were made, a staff member swept in to save face and take up for the feelings of Rob's dad.

If PittDawg can't handle criticisms of his son, often times harsh criticisms, he shouldn't read a message board. He's a big boy.

Pittdawg did handle it.

No, a staff member did not sweep in and save face. A poster with an opinion stated it. There is a difference. If you don't understand that I can't help you.

We Moderate in private. On the forum like this exchange with you we're not staff, we're posters.

Got it?

It's real easy to edit a thread title. We do it all the time. That hasn't been done here. Tell me again how we intruded on the feelings being expressed. You see I just don't get that.

No warnings have been issued that I know of. Yeah we've been real touchy feely.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

For those to assume that I am supporting Pettiti because his old man posts here, I take umbridge with that. If I really felt Rob sucked, I'd say so. But, when I look at Rob I see a rookie that sometimes looks pretty good, sometimes sucks, and sometimes is in between. Unless you're a high first round pick, that's typically what happens to most rookies.

For the most part, I'm pleased with the pass protection the O-Line is giving Bledsoe. In fact, I think once they get Crayton back, the pass protection will look even better as let's face it, Useless Price is pretty much a non-factor. I'm at the point where I'd rather see more of Terrence Copper than Useless Price right now.

Anyway, Rivera has been pretty poor for the most part and I think Al Johnson might be better off as a guard than a center. Good centers are typically more of a factor in the running game. Unfortunately, Johnson seems to be a pretty good pass protector, but rather lousy in creating lanes in the running game. That, and we do miss Flozell's run blocking dearly.

But, I thought Rob did okay for the most part yesterday. Especially considering that the refs missed at least 3 offsides penalties early in the game. In the end, Rob has played about as well as I could hope for him to play this year. If he was Jammal Brown, I'd have higher expectations. Instead, he's a 6th round rookie and he's simply not going to be the next Art Shell right out of the gate.


Rich...........