News: PFT: Jerry Jones: I’ve tried to get cute at the quarterback spot

[Eddie]

The more Jerry opens his mouth, the more I realize how he's a pompous, ignorant, a--hole.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Finding a franchise QB should be Jerrys #1 priority. If he Drafts one every round this year and hits on one it would be worth it.. A lot of people say it's a waste drafting a QB. But I know if you don't try you not going to succeed.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

LOL. There was? Based on what?

awesome avatar

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I actually don't blame Jones for bringing in Weeden once Orton decided to be a crybaby. It didn't hurt to take a look at a former first-round pick. I blame the coaching staff for not seeing during his first year here that he wasn't the answer at the backup spot. They should have dumped him in the offseason.

Pretty much on board with this. When we signed Orton, he was a genius....everyone said we had one of the best, if not the best, backup QB in the league. Orton is the one that ruined that relationship, not Jones. After that, we signed Weeden, a former first rounder with all the tools that had been stuck in a bad siutation. That is hardly a terrible move. It didn't work out, but it wasn't a bad idea.

We can argue that we should have known Weeden would be afraid to throw the ball downfield, but without game time experience here it is kind of hard to determine that. He only had one game in our system and it was against a really good defense.

Look around the league at the QB position, there just isn't a lot of talent. There are a few guys that can manage a game or two, but there really aren't that many that could provide a winning streak. Look at the numbers for backups that have started games this year. It is a really low win percentage. It's not just a Dallas problem. It's a league problem.

I do still think the way to go is drafting a WB every year. There are always guys in rounds 3-6 that have some potential that you can work with.

 

[lostar2009]

So skelator admit some truth!!!

 

[black label]

Every team's backup QB sucks.

Welcome to reality!

The problem is our plan B is last in the league

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Pretty much on board with this. When we signed Orton, he was a genius....everyone said we had one of the best, if not the best, backup QB in the league. Orton is the one that ruined that relationship, not Jones. After that, we signed Weeden, a former first rounder with all the tools that had been stuck in a bad siutation. That is hardly a terrible move. It didn't work out, but it wasn't a bad idea.

We can argue that we should have known Weeden would be afraid to throw the ball downfield, but without game time experience here it is kind of hard to determine that. He only had one game in our system and it was against a really good defense.

Look around the league at the QB position, there just isn't a lot of talent. There are a few guys that can manage a game or two, but there really aren't that many that could provide a winning streak. Look at the numbers for backups that have started games this year. It is a really low win percentage. It's not just a Dallas problem. It's a league problem.

I do still think the way to go is drafting a WB every year. There are always guys in rounds 3-6 that have some potential that you can work with.

That would put a kink in the drafting a TE every year plan.

 

[Nav22]

The problem is our plan B is last in the league

You could only make that claim if you believe the QB is 100% responsible for wins and losses.

Weeden and Cassel weren't great but they weren't horrible in relation to typical backup QBs. They were par for the course and their stats support that. They played well enough to win in some of these 7 games, but our D/special teams happened to fail us in those particular games.

I know, I know... that's not as fun as pretending we had the WORST backup QBs in the league and Evil Jerry screwed the fans over again!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I get that, But if Jerry had used his noggin at the beginning of the year we wouldn't be having this discussion. Jerry must have thought Weeden could win a few games if needed.

And really when it comes right down to it, if the defense could have gotten a friggin turnover here & there, Weeden probably would have won a game or two.

Yeah Weeden wasn't good, but this 4 turnovers in 8 games kinda thing was enough to sink most quarterbacks.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The organization has been too reactive, meeting circumstances dictate the timing of decisions instead of anticipating and being proactive. When it has tried to be proactive, the evaluations have been off (Randle, McGhee, Weeden).

Every team is like that now.

This isn't pre-free agency where teams could stock-pile talent at positions like the Cowboys, Steelers and 49ers did.

Between free agency, only having 7 draft-picks and needing to have about 28 starter-quality players... circumstances force reactive thinking.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Weeden and Cassel weren't great but they weren't horrible in relation to typical backup QBs. They were par for the course and their stats support that. They played well enough to win in some of these 7 games, but our D/special teams happened to fail us in those particular games.

That's it right there.

The defense couldn't generate a turnover to save its life... And the special teams fell apart at the worst possible time.

Yeah, Weeden wasn't good and Cassel was only slightly better IMO, but the rest of the team cratered on them.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Here Jerry, allow me to correct your statement, ole buddy.

"I went brain dead on the running back issue in the off season, screwing up the chemistry of the team. Once Romo went down I got cute, but by then my lack of football knowledge married with my hubris destroyed what this team had last year that was special.

I'd say my bad, but I never take responsibility for anything I screw up with this team going back to allowing Jimmy Johnson, the creator of what would have been a dynasty, to walk over my ego having to be part of the discussion with who built this team. Simply put I decided not to play with Jimmy any longer and took my toys and went home. Or sent him home.

So I'll just say, between us girls, this isn't very serendipitous at all. But keep buyin' them tickets and merchandise cause there's this small island in the gulf I want to purchase from a guy named Fidel. I think it's called Cuba. I may rename it Jones Cay."

An all time post. Kudos, friend.

 

[Alexander]

You could only make that claim if you believe the QB is 100% responsible for wins and losses.

Weeden and Cassel weren't great but they weren't horrible in relation to typical backup QBs. They were par for the course and their stats support that. They played well enough to win in some of these 7 games, but our D/special teams happened to fail us in those particular games.

I know, I know... that's not as fun as pretending we had the WORST backup QBs in the league and Evil Jerry screwed the fans over again!

Agreed. And I think by Jones' admission, he is blaming it on Weeden.

To me it falls on coaching. We have one of the more useless QB coaches in the history of ever in Wade Wilson.

 

[Alexander]

LOL. There was? Based on what?

The fact that Jones thought that since Mike Holmgren drafted him, he had "it".

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's cool, guys. We're just like the Bills.

Actually they're like a lot of teams.

Welcome to the NFL.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The more Jerry opens his mouth, the more I realize how he's a pompous, ignorant, a--hole.

You need to listen to more rich guys Eddie.

 

[Alexander]

Actually they're like a lot of teams.

Welcome to the NFL.

A lot of teams do not subscribe to carpet bombing the position like Ron Wolf did.

If I run a team, I always draft one. Does not have to be a big choice. But instead of drafting that try hard LB from Montana that lacks elite skills hoping he can play special teams, I take a developmental QB.

And I make sure my QB coach is more than lifer do nothing. I get the best one I can and his job is developing the new ones I get each year.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

And really when it comes right down to it, if the defense could have gotten a friggin turnover here & there, Weeden probably would have won a game or two.

Yeah Weeden wasn't good, but this 4 turnovers in 8 games kinda thing was enough to sink most quarterbacks.

Throwing check downs all game isn't going to win a thing. No matter how many times you posses the ball. If that were the case any QB could start in the NFL.

 

[Alexander]

Throwing check downs all game isn't going to win a thing. No matter how many times you posses the ball. If that were the case any QB could start in the NFL.

Charles Haley implied that we held both back. I agree completely.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

A lot of teams do not subscribe to carpet bombing the position like Ron Wolf did.

If I run a team, I always draft one. Does not have to be a big choice. But instead of drafting that try hard LB from Montana that lacks elite skills hoping he can play special teams, I take a developmental QB.

And I make sure my QB coach is more than lifer do nothing. I get the best one I can and his job is developing the new ones I get each year.

Do I think the Cowboys have paid enough attention to the position? Probably not. But then you get into the minutiae of "OK, who do we draft at the QB spot and what position do we ignore?" And then you have the dimension that only a very small amount of QB's drafted after round 1 amount to anything. I just don't think you can spend 14% of every draft on the QB position... Even GB has quit doing that.