News: PFT: Jerry Jones: I’ve tried to get cute at the quarterback spot

[Super_Kazuya]

Throwing check downs all game isn't going to win a thing. No matter how many times you posses the ball. If that were the case any QB could start in the NFL.

That isn't what he did, but keep saying the same thing over and over if it makes you feel good. And if that's all he did, how did he manage a higher yards per attempt than Matt "the mad bomber" Cassel? It's startling how so many people don't watch the games on this board.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Throwing check downs all game isn't going to win a thing. No matter how many times you posses the ball. If that were the case any QB could start in the NFL.

You won't get a disagreement out of me, but when you're in the position of having a negative TO ratio in every game because the defense can't get a pick or fumble... Your chances of victory dwindle much further.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That isn't what he did, but keep saying the same thing over and over if it makes you feel good. And if that's all he did, how did he manage a higher yards per attempt than Matt "the mad bomber" Cassel? It's startling how so many people don't watch the games on this board.

There is some of that too! LOL!

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Charles Haley implied that we held both back. I agree completely.

I would take his word over mine any day. But Weeden didn't look like he any grasp of the offense what so ever and Cassell couldn't find a coach.
So yeah they might have been held back.

 

[ISUFan22]

Thats a myth.

Just look at the NFL and you'll see a whole lotta teams paying a whole lotta money for QB's and they aint getting what they're paying for.


Just a few examples

Psssst. I said most of the time. But thanks for playing.

 

[RS12]

And I make sure my QB coach is more than lifer do nothing. I get the best one I can and his job is developing the new ones I get each year.

What is Trestman doing?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

That isn't what he did, but keep saying the same thing over and over if it makes you feel good. And if that's all he did, how did he manage a higher yards per attempt than Matt "the mad bomber" Cassel? It's startling how so many people don't watch the games on this board.

True most games were sleepers but to say he didn't check down and let the backs or Beaze get YAC? Those are the fans not paying attention. The bomber tried to complete passes down field, if they don't work you net zero.

 

[Teague31]

Something about fecal matter and Mr. Holmes comes to mind

 

[Alexander]

Do I think the Cowboys have paid enough attention to the position? Probably not. But then you get into the minutiae of "OK, who do we draft at the QB spot and what position do we ignore?" And then you have the dimension that only a very small amount of QB's drafted after round 1 amount to anything. I just don't think you can spend 14% of every draft on the QB position... Even GB has quit doing that.

You spend 14% of the draft on some idiotic special teams player?

The art of developing QBs is to be committed to it. And since most of the NFL is not, you show off a few guys in meaningless preseason finales, you never know. The Packers stopped doing it, but it doesn't mean it was a bad philosophy. A totally different regime with different focus.

It is a roll of the dice, but being a draft pick implies status. It also usually means they make the final cut, because we are not exactly the type of team that is quick to cut bait.

I prefer the non-essentials come from the UDFA pool. We were very weak in that this past year and we need to get that back in gear.

 

[Alexander]

What is Trestman doing?

Failing as an OC in Baltimore.

 

[loublue22]

Give me Connor Cook as the backup next year

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You spend 14% of the draft on some idiotic special teams player?

The art of developing QBs is to be committed to it. And since most of the NFL is not, you show off a few guys in meaningless preseason finales, you never know. The Packers stopped doing it, but it doesn't mean it was a bad philosophy. A totally different regime with different focus.

It is a roll of the dice, but being a draft pick implies status. It also usually means they make the final cut, because we are not exactly the type of team that is quick to cut bait.

I prefer the non-essentials come from the UDFA pool. We were very weak in that this past year and we need to get that back in gear.

But you don't see a single team in the NFL going the GB route of the 90's and drafting a QB every season... not one.

And I believe it's because with only 7 picks (on average) and twenty-some other starters need on the team you simply can't do it.

Also the numbers have shown that drafting a kid after round 1 is a near throw-away pick... because they usually don't amount to anything.

 

[5Stars]

Picking just one QB in the early part of the draft should be done from here on out because the clock is ticking with Romo. The oline is set, they don't need anymore TE's, they need a good safety, maybe another CB...but, just why they don't at least TRY and draft a QB in their first round is beyond me.

Sure, they could draft a bust like a Leaf, but, they could also find a Brady in there somewhere, but if they don't try, they will never know! So, they better either piss or get off the pot because when Romo is done, and he is getting there, if they don't plan for that position, well, just get ready for another 20 years of the same ole same.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Picking just one QB in the early part of the draft should be done from here on out because the clock is ticking with Romo. The oline is set, they don't need anymore TE's, they need a good safety, maybe another CB...but, just why they don't at least TRY and draft a QB in their first round is beyond me.

Sure, they could draft a bust like a Leaf, but, they could also find a Brady in there somewhere, but if they don't try, they will never know! So, they better either piss or get off the pot because when Romo is done, and he is getting there, if they don't plan for that position, well, just get ready for another 20 years of the same ole same.

But you've got to trust your board. Just because a you're on the clock and there's a QB sitting there, doesn't mean you draft him carte-blanche. There has to be some merit to the kid's selection.

And right now I'm not seeing a lot in the 2016 QB lot that inspires me into thinking there's a quality starter there.

 

[Alexander]

But you don't see a single team in the NFL going the GB route of the 90's and drafting a QB every season... not one.

Several reasons for that. Few teams, save GB were doing it before, so it is not like the NFL was all into that and it disappeared.

Second of all, this is a win now league and few teams have the stability and patience to develop players.

Third, the QBs coming out are likely only to have maybe, maybe, five or six QBs that might play more than a few years because college teams are not taking the time to work with them either. Kids come out of scripted programs even in high school, that make it much simpler to play the position. Spread offenses are killing the quality of the position. Big time.

And I believe it's because with only 7 picks (on average) and twenty-some other starters need on the team you simply can't do it.

Sure you can. It just takes the idea that you are going to do it. Once you get down into the later rounds, you see more and more teams picking specialty players that can do one thing, thinking they can plug that one hole, even if it is a gunner on special teams. It's silly. Why not take a chance on the most important position on the football field? Of course, it also means you have a committed desire to do so. A real QB coach. A real organizational drive. Most don't have that.

Also the numbers have shown that drafting a kid after round 1 is a near throw-away pick... because they usually don't amount to anything.

Michael, Michael, Michael.

 

[Alexander]

But you've got to trust your board. Just because a you're on the clock and there's a QB sitting there, doesn't mean you draft him carte-blanche. There has to be some merit to the kid's selection.

And right now I'm not seeing a lot in the 2016 QB lot that inspires me into thinking there's a quality starter there.

It is a lot better than last year IMO.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Several reasons for that. Few teams, save GB were doing it before, so it is not like the NFL was all into that and it disappeared.

Second of all, this is a win now league and few teams have the stability and patience to develop players.

Third, the QBs coming out are likely only to have maybe, maybe, five or six QBs that might play more than a few years because college teams are not taking the time to work with them either. Kids come out of scripted programs even in high school, that make it much simpler to play the position. Spread offenses are killing the quality of the position. Big time.


Sure you can. It just takes the idea that you are going to do it. Once you get down into the later rounds, you see more and more teams picking specialty players that can do one thing, thinking they can plug that one hole, even if it is a gunner on special teams. It's silly. Why not take a chance on the most important position on the football field? Of course, it also means you have a committed desire to do so. A real QB coach. A real organizational drive. Most don't have that.

Honestly I don't think that, i.e. drafting a QB every years works today... and until at least ONE NFL team starts doing it again... I don't think it's realistic.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It is a lot better than last year IMO.

I'm not sure about that.

The thing is we will see.

 

[Alexander]

Honestly I don't think that, i.e. drafting a QB every years works today... and until at least ONE NFL team starts doing it again... I don't think it's realistic.

Yeah, those NFL teams, they all know exactly what they are doing better now than ever. That explains why you see the same franchises making the same mistakes over and over again.

There are about maybe five franchises that I consider competent anymore. Maybe less.

I have very little reverence for how NFL teams are run. There is a lot of shiftless behavior, nepotism and general stupidity around for me to not respect what is the general rule.

 

[5Stars]

But you've got to trust your board. Just because a you're on the clock and there's a QB sitting there, doesn't mean you draft him carte-blanche. There has to be some merit to the kid's selection.

And right now I'm not seeing a lot in the 2016 QB lot that inspires me into thinking there's a quality starter there.

That could be true, trust your board. My board would have a QB at the top of the round(s). I mean come on here. There are not just 32 men in all of College football that can play the position at a high level in the NFL. There are some Romo's out there and there are some Leaf's, however, until you start making it a PRIORTY for one of the hardest positions in football, if they don't start getting some in here right away...it's over.

It just makes sense at this point in time...