PFT: Jerry Jones remains committed to Wade Phillips... per ESPN

[RS12]

Jerry not gonna show all his cards after two games. The fact that Wade has no contract past this year speaks volumes. Wade needs to win this year or else.

 

[DallasGirl50]

Maybe Wade will resign....a girl can dream. :

 

[Chief]

- Campo lobbying (you could see it on the draft room cam) ...

:bang2:

This is beyond frustrating.

I don't know the details of this particular instance, but why would you have the scouts spend months dissecting every play and every player, only to let a position coach in the war room on draft day and trump the scout (if that's what happened)?

Campo! .... Uuuuugggghhhh!!

 

[TheSkaven]

If Wade Phillips get another year here, we are clearly right back in the Gailey/Campo puppet era.

And the results will be just as poor as they were before.

Yes. The really sad thing is that this is an extremely talented team, and we all know how fast that window can close in the NFL. It's a real shame that coaching is the barrier holding an otherwise stellar team back.

 

[skinsscalper]

Yea Jerry, we all would love for Wade to win a Super Bowl with the Cowboys, trust me on this one. The thing is, Wade can't win a Super Bowl with this team, or any other team, because he's a bad head coach. It's that simple. He's never won at any of his stops along the way. I, along with many other Cowboys fans, have wondered why on earth he was ever hired in the first place. For him to coach this team next season will only result in more of the same when it comes to recent history. The only people who love Wade as our head coach are the Eagles, Giants and Commanders fans.

Ever consider the fact that we'd spent a few years prior converting to a 3-4 defense and Wade's success in the system made him the most viable candidate? Who else was available at the time? Parcell's waffling left us high and dry late in the "hire a new coach" game.

Not at all, I'd definitely agree with that.

If the team has a good season, makes and has a level of success in the playoffs - I'd say at least two wins - and shows continued signs of improvement, I can see Wade getting an extension.

And I would have no problem with that.

But Wade's track record paints a different picture and until he shakes that label, he still has it with me.

I think he, Garrett, and Romo as well, are all in the 'show me' boat at this point and they'll have to wait until the 'games really count' to prove their respective doubters wrong.

Hopefully they all do because that will mean good news for all of us.

^^^This

i heard dont know how true it is, but some reports that jerry jones has spent a ton of his money, and right now he doesnt plan to change coaches or players or go get any impact free agents till he recoups his money.

if thats the case will be rough on us as fans with another year of good ole wade.

all you have to do is go back to the tampa bay game where wade said, i didnt coach the blitz packages enough in preseason because i didnt want to get players hurt, yet the offense is pretty well doing their job and the special teams,

sounds like to me jerry isnt planning on paying top money to a top head coach or free agents.

It was A REPORT by none other than Chris Mortenson (who has never been right about the Cowboys). I don't believe a word of it. There's one thing Jerry has never been, and that's frugal. He knows damn well that the best way to recoup his money is to draw attention to the Cowboys. EVERY single time, he does it by opening up his wallet. If Wade loses his job after the season, you can bet everything that you've got that he's not going to hire a Robbie Robiski instead of a Holmgren, Shanahan, or Cowher because of the price tag. Ditto on a free agent that he thinks is the missing link, especially in an uncapped year. Whether we agree on his choice of the guy he thinks will take us over the top is another story altogether, but he won't balk at a Julius Peppers or Merriman if he TRULY thinks that player is what we need. The only player he has ever done that with was Randy Moss and it was a character issue, not a money issue.

 

[utrunner07]

"I have an option, number one, and don't discuss certainly at this time of the year our coaches' contract, especially the head coach's contract," Jones said. "I'd like for him to win his first Super Bowl as a head coach as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and that might take more years than this year to do it."

If Jerry brings Wade back without a playoff win this year I think you will see on all out mutiny from the fans...

 

[cowboyjoe]

Jerry not gonna show all his cards after two games. The fact that Wade has no contract past this year speaks volumes. Wade needs to win this year or else.

i sure do hope so,
i cant stand another camp of camp cupcake or camp marshmellow

i still think physically this team is to soft

because mentally players will come around when you toughen them up in training camp

if you dont toughen them up they fold in the 4th quarter

jimmy johnson proved that when he had tough training camps, teams never did out do us in the 4th quarter, generally we as long as we were in a game until the 4th quarter, we pulled away from teams with stamina, grit, toughness, heart, intensity from tough training camps

i feel thats the way u win championships not a soft camp

 

[Fmart322]

Ever consider the fact that we'd spent a few years prior converting to a 3-4 defense and Wade's success in the system made him the most viable candidate? Who else was available at the time? Parcell's waffling left us high and dry late in the "hire a new coach" game.

I remember how the Tuna left town. His waiting cost us a few choices at HC. I always felt though that the Cowboys picking Wade just because he was a 3-4 guy was nutts. A good GM could have hired the best HC and also known that they could have hired Dom Capers. Capers was available at the time too.

 

[dbair1967]

If Jerry brings Wade back without a playoff win this year I think you will see on all out mutiny from the fans...

I suspect it would occur well before next year.

That stadium is huge, it wont take much losing for the place to be 30-50% empty with the recent history of flops. Most people perceive Wade as a waste of time, alot of people think the QB makes too many mistakes and doesnt care enough about it to fix it. The defense has been awful. They've basically embarassed themselves in the last two home games, both of which were extremely important.

If they somehow lost tonight, they'll have a very hard time filling that place the rest of the yr IMO.

 

[cowboyjoe]

If Jerry brings Wade back without a playoff win this year I think you will see on all out mutiny from the fans...

i will be one of them, i wont pull for them with wade as a head coach,

i hope it doesnt get to that, but thats where i stand, i cant stand wade period

he always waits to fix things, then its generally to late

forget the good ole boy stuff, there are no more excuses

i feel if we as fans will let jerry jones know how we feel about the situation with wade as head coach next year if its a losing year, maybe jerry jones wont rehire him as head coach

i dont like soft coaches, i want a coach that will stand up to jerry jones and the players

 

[cowboyjoe]

Yes. The really sad thing is that this is an extremely talented team, and we all know how fast that window can close in the NFL. It's a real shame that coaching is the barrier holding an otherwise stellar team back.

yep, sad isnt it;

 

[RS12]

i will be one of them, i wont pull for them with wade as a head coach

How does this impact Jerry's wallet Joe? That is all he understands.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I suspect it would occur well before next year.

That stadium is huge, it wont take much losing for the place to be 30-50% empty with the recent history of flops. Most people perceive Wade as a waste of time, alot of people think the QB makes too many mistakes and doesnt care enough about it to fix it. The defense has been awful. They've basically embarassed themselves in the last two home games, both of which were extremely important.

If they somehow lost tonight, they'll have a very hard time filling that place the rest of the yr IMO.

i will stay with them with wade as head coach this year, no matter what
but i dont see putting up with another losing year under wade

there are no more excuses; T O, pacman, tank johnson, tony curtis, greg ellis are all gone, so there are no more excuses for the coaches not doing their jobs

garrett is basically doing his job, he cant throw the football when he is on the field and the offense is scoring 30 points or more
the special teams are doing their job

but the defense is lacking
we have 6 number one picks on defense
we have 2 number 2 picks on defense
with 1 third rounder and one 4th rounder that i can recall

thats basically 9 picks in the top three rounds, where is the production?
where is the defense
to me there should be no excuses

 

[skinsscalper]

I remember how the Tuna left town. His waiting cost us a few choices at HC. I always felt though that the Cowboys picking Wade just because he was a 3-4 guy was nutts. A good GM could have hired the best HC and also known that they could have hired Dom Capers. Capers was available at the time too.

Capers had just come off of a horrible campaign with the Texans, whose defense flat out sucked. I understand why Phillips was the guy considering those two choices. Phillips had the San Diego defense flying high and Jerry envisioned him doing the same with our own guys (especially considering the success Marriman had and the fact that the Cowboys believed Ware was the superior player coming out of the draft). So, I do understand it. If Capers would have been hired after the Texans debacle, the suicide watch in Dallas would have been at an all-time high.

To add, I still don't think Norv Turner would have been the right guy for this job, either. His team stumbled into the playoffs last year because they played in the weakest division in football. I don't think there's any way he would have succeeded under the Dallas Cowboys' spotlight. I could be wrong, of course, but that's just my feeling on the matter.

 

[cowboyjoe]

How does this impact Jerry's wallet Joe? That is all he understands.

ok fans buy tickets to the stadium right?
fans buy cowboys jerseys, etc right?

if the cowboys have a losing year, then if fans dont pay the big ticket prices, that will hit jerry in the pocket

then jerry will take notice

like some fans objected when jerry sold tickets to the home game at a cheaper price than the ones that had to pay for the option

then jerry uped ticket prices way up

so some fans arent happy about that

i just dont see fans, if the cowboys have a another losing year under wade, i just dont see fans buying tickets for next year.

all i know is i saw red when jerry jones said he wanted wade to win a superbowl but it may take more than this year or next
"I've never thought about not having him as our coach," Jones said regarding Phillips. "He certainly is the man for the job relative to our defense."

(Of course, this implies that he's not the man for the job relative to the Dallas offense, and that maybe Phillips and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett are Dunder Mifflin style co-managers of the team.)

Tafoya also asked whether Phillips, whose contract expires after the season, would remain for 2010.

"I have an option, number one, and don't discuss certainly at this time of the year our coaches' contract, especially the head coach's contract," Jones said. "I'd like for him to win his first Super Bowl as a head coach as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and that might take more years than this year to do it."

The first part of that answer means that Jones can extend the deal into 2010, if he so chooses. The rest of the answer implies that he'll exercise that right.

As to the notion that Garrett might be the successor to Phillips, Jones smiled and said, "Well, he certainly is in the family portrait." (So much for those offseason rumors that Jones was hoping Garrett would get a head-coaching job elsewhere.)

all i know is i am still seeing red, and my blood is boiling if jerry was saying it may take 2 to 3 years to win a superbowl with wade and jerry is willing to keep wade as head coach until he wins a superbowl

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[cowboyjoe]

Capers had just come off of a horrible campaign with the Texans, whose defense flat out sucked. I understand why Phillips was the guy considering those two choices. Phillips had the San Diego defense flying high and Jerry envisioned him doing the same with our own guys (especially considering the success Marriman had and the fact that the Cowboys believed Ware was the superior player coming out of the draft). So, I do understand it. If Capers would have been hired after the Texans debacle, the suicide watch in Dallas would have been at an all-time high.

To add, I still don't think Norv Turner would have been the right guy for this job, either. His team stumbled into the playoffs last year because they played in the weakest division in football. I don't think there's any way he would have succeeded under the Dallas Cowboys' spotlight. I could be wrong, of course, but that's just my feeling on the matter.

i agree with you on that, just dont think there was a real good coach for the cowboys to get when parcells retired

im still seeing red on what jerry jones said about wade and may take more than this year or several years for wade to win a superbowl

help hostile or DC my blood is boiling, im seeing red!

"I've never thought about not having him as our coach," Jones said regarding Phillips. "He certainly is the man for the job relative to our defense."(Of course, this implies that he's not the man for the job relative to the Dallas offense, and that maybe Phillips and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett are Dunder Mifflin style co-managers of the team.)

Tafoya also asked whether Phillips, whose contract expires after the season, would remain for 2010.

"I have an option, number one, and don't discuss certainly at this time of the year our coaches' contract, especially the head coach's contract," Jones said. "I'd like for him to win his first Super Bowl as a head coach as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys and that might take more years than this year to do it."
The first part of that answer means that Jones can extend the deal into 2010, if he so chooses. The rest of the answer implies that he'll exercise that right.

As to the notion that Garrett might be the successor to Phillips, Jones smiled and said, "Well, he certainly is in the family portrait." (So much for those offseason rumors that Jones was hoping Garrett would get a head-coaching job elsewhere.)

:bang2: :bang2: :horse: :shoot4: :chop: :bomb: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

 

[big dog cowboy]

If they somehow lost tonight, they'll have a very hard time filling that place the rest of the yr IMO.

I compltely agree with this.

That's why I'm saying the Cowboys win tonight.

 

[BrassCowboy]

First, this is a forum. Discussing things is what happens here.

Second, many people call 'em like they see 'em. At least the ones that aren't concerned about whether or not someone on the internet may question their loyalty for calling a spade a spade.

first off, I was referring to your sig. I personally would not have a negative graphic as my signature. Posting a negative post goes with the territory here and we all do it from time to time.

I do not like Wade as HC. I think he is very laid back, careless, and soft. I also still question Garrett as OC. Not sure he calls a game according to the players he has, and his adjustments could be better.

As much as I think Wade will be fired after this year, I hope he wins every game this year all the way through the superbowl. If that means he stays after this year, then he does. Hope he continues to win.

 

[dbair1967]

I compltely agree with this.

That's why I'm saying the Cowboys win tonight.

"Win one for the Jerruh!"

 

[vta]

It's silly to even think Jones would say something different. Whatever his ability as a GM, he's smart enough to know that dangling threats over a mans head, especially a milquetoast kind of guy like Wade, would accomplish nothing but distraction. To say anything else would put an albatross around the teams neck and drag it down.

His decision at seasons end will have nothing at all to do with what he say's today.