News: PFT: Jerry Jones: We don’t have to draft a quarterback

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I been saying this. There are going to be 2 young QBs most likely available in FA pretty cheap that the team really liked. Not only that but this team doesnt seem to think Romo is close to hanging up the cleats

Alot of us joked about Moore but the guy lit up when he got comfortable. He looks like he can handle a start here and there too. Would rather have RG3 or Manziel over him tho. Think Moore will be the 3rd QB on the roster.

If there's a QB at #4 who has an "Aikman-aura" about him, then fine. Pull the trigger. But I don't think any of the guys who could be there at #4 have sufficiently proven to be "franchise" QB's at this point. Maybe they will between now and the end of April. But it bothers me that for much of the 2015 college season, they weren't even considered to be worth drafting early in the 1st round.
 

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And that's exactly what the majority of this board is doing with no consideration of whether they're any good or not. Just draft one is all they care.

I agree and that's a dangerous precedent to take.

And IF the Cowboys do not draft one... my gosh, the waling and moaning we're going to get out of this board will be ear-shattering.
 

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If Jones cant see the need for the next franchise QB after this season, then there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that he will ever see it until Romo is either dead or in a wheel chair. Being a Cowboys fan has truly never been so dire since I can remember. We have complete fools running the operation.

dumb and dumber is about as appropriate as it gets.

IF there is a "franchise" QB there.
 

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1. The draft is about the future of the team with cementing that team with foundational players, especially 1st round picks -- if a team is selecting in the top 5, that team should not be in win-now mode, rather the focus ought to be on rebuilding, retooling, and rejuvenating the franchise.

2. Look at the current needs of the team, age of the starter, starter production, and if a viable starter as the backup exists on the team.

3. Quality QB's who are starters historically and percentage-wise through the years, are drafted in the 1st round. Of course there are exceptions, but the probability increases dramatically if teams draft and acquire their QB's in the first round.

Now, with Dallas:

1. Picking at number 4, and if the team stays at 4 the selection should be a player with tremendous upside, high character, and a team leader that will elevate the performance of his teammates for next decade (the future), regardless of the position.

2. Dallas needs a QB for the future. Some may dispute this, but given the age of the starter (as well as recurring health issues), and the fact there is no suitable younger replacement on the roster who has starter-potential, a need for a QB is imperative.

3. If the scouting department/personnel endorses any of the draftable QB's as worthy to be a starter and a franchise-level QB at the number 4 selection, common senses would suggest that Dallas select the QB at the 4th selection, or higher, or even over-draft the QB (five or six spots earlier), if necessary.
 

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Yes I apologize, I did not mean to sound sensitive. However, there is a reason Wentz is seen as rising up the draft. Joe Flacco at this point was not "franchise quarterback" material but he certainly was by the time the draft rolled around and that worked out pretty well. I respect your view point and I get what you're saying but my point is that if you're picking this high then your chances of getting a good player at the most important position in football is much greater. We are all hoping that we don't have to pick this high ever again so who knows if we'll ever be in a position like this in the foreseeable future.

Joe Flacco had a significantly better and more extensive body of work. He was also the 18th pick, not the 4th. I would have no issue with any of the top three quarterbacks at 18.
 

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If the draft in which Larry Allen was drafted was re-done...he would/should be the #1 overall pick. But you will never have a Guard being drafted #1 overall....because it defies "football logic"

The point I ma trying to make is....I don't care if we use the #4 overall pick on a QB that can be had in the 2nd half of the first round...IF.....IF...you think he can take over in 2 years...and be your QB for the next 10 years....who CARES where he is drafted?!

This is WHY they get paid the big bucks. This is WHY this franchise is the most lucrative sports franchise in ALL of sports. They make money..hand over fist...in SPITE of all the losing...so I have no sympathy if they are SCARED to pull the trigger! The QB position on this team needs to be addressed. It CANNOT wait another year or 2. You HOPE....HOPE...you are not picking in the top 5 anytime of the next 10 - 12 years....so since we are here...we might as well use it to fill the most important position football.
 

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If there's a QB at #4 who has an "Aikman-aura" about him, then fine. Pull the trigger. But I don't think any of the guys who could be there at #4 have sufficiently proven to be "franchise" QB's at this point. Maybe they will between now and the end of April. But it bothers me that for much of the 2015 college season, they weren't even considered to be worth drafting early in the 1st round.

I watched the draft show and they talked about Wentz and praising him, but did say he has some accuracy issues too. And exactly my point on the QBs in the first round. Wentz was a 3-4 round QB most of the season. Towards the end went up to mid 2nd. Now without playing any football hes being talked about as a RD1? Goff was bad against ranked opponents losing every game against a ranked opponent racking up only 9TDs to 9INTs and even before his bowl game he was labeled a late RD1 and he kills AIRFORCE << lol and all of the sudden he's a top 5 pick. IMO the only guy who actually might deserve to be top 10 is Lynch. His game vs Ole Miss was outstanding.
 

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I watched the draft show and they talked about Wentz and praising him, but did say he has some accuracy issues too. And exactly my point on the QBs in the first round. Wentz was a 3-4 round QB most of the season. Towards the end went up to mid 2nd. Now without playing any football hes being talked about as a RD1? Goff was bad against ranked opponents losing every game against a ranked opponent racking up only 9TDs to 9INTs and even before his bowl game he was labeled a late RD1 and he kills AIRFORCE << lol and all of the sudden he's a top 5 pick. IMO the only guy who actually might deserve to be top 10 is Lynch. His game vs Ole Miss was outstanding.

Valid point.

That's why I'm not ready to proclaim at least Wentz and Goff as being good selections with the 4th overall pick.
 

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Back in September (3-4 games into the season), Ourlads listed these guys as their top-QB prospects... keep in mind these are just seniors:

1. Dak Prescott
2. Connor Cook
3. Cody Kessler
4. Carson Wentz
 

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Back in September (3-4 games into the season), Ourlads listed these guys as their top-QB prospects... keep in mind these are just seniors:

1. Dak Prescott
2. Connor Cook
3. Cody Kessler
4. Carson Wentz

Seems like media and scouts punish teams for playing top talent and reward for them cupcake scedules.

Im gonna say this and i could be wrong but i dont think i am. Hackenberg is going to be the best QB from this group. The guy was surrounded by garbage and forced to play in a scheme that the team wasnt built for. He's played in a prostyle offense and lit it up. O'brian left and they went to a spread with no OL and no WRs. Hackenberg nasically had a player in his face while he was finishing his drop back alot of the time. I would pick hackenberg at 34.
 

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Seems like media and scouts punish teams for playing top talent and reward for them cupcake scedules.

Im gonna say this and i could be wrong but i dont think i am. Hackenberg is going to be the best QB from this group. The guy was surrounded by garbage and forced to play in a scheme that the team wasnt built for. He's played in a prostyle offense and lit it up. O'brian left and they went to a spread with no OL and no WRs. Hackenberg nasically had a player in his face while he was finishing his drop back alot of the time. I would pick hackenberg at 34.

Yeah, Hackeberg in the 2nd could make some sense. The problem I have with him is his accuracy. Even his one good season was less than 60%.

To a greater extent I have the same problem with Cook. If you can't be a 60% completion guy at college, you're probably not going to be one in the pros.
 

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Yeah, Hackeberg in the 2nd could make some sense. The problem I have with him is his accuracy. Even his one good season was less than 60%.

To a greater extent I have the same problem with Cook. If you can't be a 60% completion guy at college, you're probably not going to be one in the pros.

I agree on his accuracy, but that first yr was a freshman. then Obrien leaves and they switch it up. He's not built for a spread offense. And Penn State didnt have the talent. All their talent was on the other side of the ball. Watching his games it was nice watching him just being able to get the ball off as much pressure there was. He's going to make some team very happy IMO.

and IDK about all that not in college then not in the pros. 60.8 completion guy in college. hes off the charts now. Think he just needs to sit and learn.
 

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Thank god there are some reasonable people in the Fan Zone. In the Draft Zone it is Wentz or bust, with some proclaiming him to be better than Tom Brady already--not making this up.

Do we need another quarterback, maybe two? Of course. Do we have to jump at one of these overrated prospects to try and fill that need. Absolutely not.

No QB is as good or will ever be as good as Brady is when the coach is speaking the other teams exact defense into his helmet receiver from stolen signals. :D
 

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He could go that high. I suspect he will go in the bottom of the first. Having said that he will now go in the top of the first. :)

Seems like scouts have been high on him for awhile and the media is just now catching up
 

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If there's a QB at #4 who has an "Aikman-aura" about him, then fine. Pull the trigger. But I don't think any of the guys who could be there at #4 have sufficiently proven to be "franchise" QB's at this point. Maybe they will between now and the end of April. But it bothers me that for much of the 2015 college season, they weren't even considered to be worth drafting early in the 1st round.

Goff has been pegged as a first round pick since last summer, not sure what you are talking about saying he was not considered a top prospect. Here is an article from last summer talking about Goff.........

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/qb-jared-goff-prepares-for-big-season-at-cal-072315

from the article..........."Goff is projected as a first-round pick if he leaves school after this season and is considered one of the top pro passing prospects in the country"
 

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Goff has been pegged as a first round pick since last summer, not sure what you are talking about saying he was not considered a top prospect. Here is an article from last summer talking about Goff.........

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/qb-jared-goff-prepares-for-big-season-at-cal-072315

from the article..........."Goff is projected as a first-round pick if he leaves school after this season and is considered one of the top pro passing prospects in the country"

A top prospect is different than be the #1 guy overall... It's not like he's ever had the "buzz" that Troy or Peyton did.

In addition, what if Goff is off the board when the Cowboys pick at #4?
 

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A top prospect is different than be the #1 guy overall... It's not like he's ever had the "buzz" that Troy or Peyton did.

In addition, what if Goff is off the board when the Cowboys pick at #4?

I don't know that Goff is the BPA at #4 if he's there. So no thanks.

Give me the Seahawks model. Grab a guy in the early second. The Seahawks and Vikings (late first round for Bridgewater) have had some success. If we can grab a decent quarterback prospect and the BPA in the first round, that's the move that gets you closer to winning Super Bowls.
 
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