PFT: Jets trade G Pete Kendall to Skins *Merge*

[Zimmy Lives]

Eh its not even a 4rth round pick for next season. Its a 2009 fourth round pick or a 2008 5th round pick.

Short sighted but good trade. Kendall is still a very good player and will help us out more than whoever the 2009 fourth round pick was going to be.

For all the "success" Dallas has with fourth round picks, they still have zero playoff wins to show for so it looks like the mighty fourth round picks aren't getting the job done.

Prediction: Kendall will injure his back on a Stairmaster and miss the entire season. Hey, at his age it could happen. :

 

[WR17]

The trade needed to be made. That much has been acknowledged. It's the overall way these idiots do business that we're talking about now.


Come back when you can step up your game.

I've been critical of Snyder. I don't like the Brandon Lloyd trade. I don't like the TJ Duckett trade.

This trade, I'm very confident about. There are certain players you know who will contribute in a positive manner. I don't think its fair to be critical of this move based on Snyders past mistakes. I actually feel hes been a changed man this offseason and might be headed the right way. Example, instead of going after the Dwight Freeney, Nate Clements of the league he managed to control himself by signing underrated players who performed as All Pros in our system before. I know he was tempted to make the Lance Briggs trade but I like the fact he restrained himself from looking like an ***.

 

[zrinkill]

For all the "success" Dallas has with fourth round picks, they still have zero playoff wins to show for so it looks like the mighty fourth round picks aren't getting the job done.

Yet we have had 3 Superbowl victories since you girls have sniffed one.

 

[Wimbo]

Take a peek at every teams draft pick in the fourth round over the last few years. You will certainly find more failure than success.

You are smarter than that.

Here is a very partial list of OG's who are slated to start in 2007 who were drafted 4th round or later. I got tired of looking.

Kyle Kosier - 7th round
Reggie Wells - 6th round
Kynan Forney - 7th
Jason Brown - 4th
Duke Preston - 4th
Mike Wahle - Undrafted (I think)
Roberto Garza - 4th
Stacy Andrews - 4th
Montre Holland - 4th
Ben Hamilton - 4th
Edwin Mulitalo - 4th
Jake Scott - 5th
Rex Hadnot - 6th
Adrien Clark - 7th
Jacob Bell - 5th

 

[cobra]

Really 2.7 mill is cheap, and the Commanders don't scout college players anyway.

Uh, the price to get a starting guard for the Commanders was not 2.7 million.

It was:
$2.7 million for Kendall per season
+
$6.5 million to Wade who they already paid to be their starting guard but failed
+
a 4th Round Draft pick
+
Whatever they will have to pay for a guard after next season when both Kendall and Wade are gone

That is how much it cost them to get a starter at LG.

It would have been much cheaper for them to just resign Dockery and maintain continuity with a good, young and developing homegrown player.

But leave it to the Commanders to use the stupid way out of the situation.

 

[WR17]

Here is a very partial list of OG's who are slated to start in 2007 who were drafted 4th round or later. I got tired of looking.

Kyle Kosier - 7th round
Reggie Wells - 6th round
Kynan Forney - 7th
Jason Brown - 4th
Duke Preston - 4th
Mike Wahle - Undrafted (I think)
Roberto Garza - 4th
Stacy Andrews - 4th
Montre Holland - 4th
Ben Hamilton - 4th
Edwin Mulitalo - 4th
Jake Scott - 5th
Rex Hadnot - 6th
Adrien Clark - 7th
Jacob Bell - 5th

Besides Roberto Garza and Mike Wahle, none of these guys are anything more than decent.

The Skins have a first round pick, second round pick and a third round pick. Considering that we have arguably one of the best offensive line coaches in the game, I'm pretty confident about whoever the guard we draft next year will be.

 

[Big Dakota]

Uh, the price to get a starting guard for the Commanders was not 2.7 million.

It was:
$2.7 million for Kendall per season
+
$6.5 million to Wade who they already paid to be their starting guard but failed
+
a 4th Round Draft pick
+
Whatever they will have to pay for a guard after next season when both Kendall and Wade are gone

That is how much it cost them to get a starter at LG.

It would have been much cheaper for them to just resign Dockery and maintain continuity with a good, young and developing homegrown player.

But leave it to the Commanders to use the stupid way out of the situation.

Well, when you put it like that, i take back everything i've ever said about Danny and Vinny
:laugh2:

 

[WR17]

Uh, the price to get a starting guard for the Commanders was not 2.7 million.

It was:
$2.7 million for Kendall per season
+
$6.5 million to Wade who they already paid to be their starting guard but failed
+
a 4th Round Draft pick
+
Whatever they will have to pay for a guard after next season when both Kendall and Wade are gone

That is how much it cost them to get a starter at LG.

It would have been much cheaper for them to just resign Dockery and maintain continuity with a good, young and developing homegrown player.

But leave it to the Commanders to use the stupid way out of the situation.

Wrong. Todd Wade is not costing 6.5 million a season. He recieved it over a two year contract, based on incentives. The deal cuts down even more considering he won't see much more action anymore.

Kendall is here for two seasons. We will most likely draft a guard next year to replace Kendall mid season or within two years.

Derrick Dockery at his 6 year 50 million contract would have been our fourth best lineman after Samuels, Rabach and Randy Thomas. Not worth it.

 

[superpunk]

I've been critical of Snyder. I don't like the Brandon Lloyd trade. I don't like the TJ Duckett trade.

This trade, I'm very confident about. There are certain players you know who will contribute in a positive manner. I don't think its fair to be critical of this move based on Snyders past mistakes. I actually feel hes been a changed man this offseason and might be headed the right way. Example, instead of going after the Dwight Freeney, Nate Clements of the league he managed to control himself by signing underrated players who performed as All Pros in our system before. I know he was tempted to make the Lance Briggs trade but I like the fact he restrained himself from looking like an ***.

Did he do it out of necessity, or is he changed. You've seen this play before, if you've been paying attention.

 

[WR17]

Did he do it out of necessity, or is he changed. You've seen this play before, if you've been paying attention.

Dont know if hes changed or not, but the signs indicate towards him being a different man. Resisting the temptation to make blockbuster deals after a sorely dissapointing season is not very Snyder esque. I'll wait an year before passing judgement but I like what he did this offseason. Rather than putting too much light and attention on the team, hes had a very quiet offseason.

 

[dogunwo]

Take a peek at every Commander free agent over the last few years. You will certainly find more failure than success.

The Commanders are not smarter than that.

He shoots, he scores!

 

[superpunk]

Dont know if hes changed or not, but the signs indicate towards him being a different man. Resisting the temptation to make blockbuster deals after a sorely dissapointing season is not very Snyder esque. I'll wait an year before passing judgement but I like what he did this offseason. Rather than putting too much light and attention on the team, hes had a very quiet offseason.

Like I said, you saw this back in 05. Everyone lauded him for not making moves, but it was necessity, not choice, after he ate Lav Coles money.

They have a mildly successful year, and he and Gibbs are after every mediocre underachiever out there, trading picks for Duckett and Lloyd and extending Lloyd before he played a down and giving Archuletta a huge payday.

Like I said - you've seen this movie before. You can only hope the ending changes finally.

 

[iceberg]

Take a peek at every teams draft pick in the fourth round over the last few years. You will certainly find more failure than success.

You are smarter than that.

and you not only drink the kool aide, hook up an IV and you're 100% homerjuice leaks out.

you're selling youself what snyder handed you vs. looking at an issue logically. the draft works. it really does.

 

[5Stars]

Dont know if hes changed or not, but the signs indicate towards him being a different man. Resisting the temptation to make blockbuster deals after a sorely dissapointing season is not very Snyder esque. I'll wait an year before passing judgement but I like what he did this offseason. Rather than putting too much light and attention on the team, hes had a very quiet offseason.

Yeah, that's what happens when you are low on cash/salary cap!

:laugh2:

 

[iceberg]

Didn't I say you were right....Or do you need to get off by telling all the other bikers at the dinner table that your the man on the message boards....

you're - it's still just 2 words.

even more a shame the biker owns a 4x4 truck and never a cycle, but hey - you stereotype YOUR (proper usage here) way though life. my apathy will kick in now.

 

[WR17]

Yeah, that's what happens when you are low on cash/salary cap!

:laugh2:

You really think that stopped Snyder? Technically we've been low in cap space every since Snyder took over. Peter King has predicted cap hell for us every year yet Snyder found ways to sign whoever he wanted.

But hey whichever way you wanna percieve it go ahead. You can live in lala land if it makes you happy thinking that Snyder couldn't sign anyone because of low cash/salary cap.

 

[5Stars]

You really think that stopped Snyder? Technically we've been low in cap space every since Snyder took over. Peter King has predicted cap hell for us every year yet Snyder found ways to sign whoever he wanted.

But hey whichever way you wanna percieve it go ahead. You can live in lala land if it makes you happy thinking that Snyder couldn't sign anyone because of low cash/salary cap.

Oh, The Midget will find a way...every broken down vet that needs that last big payday just go to the Snyder ATM machine....! And, what exactely has all those "could sign anyone's" done for you? Absoutely nothing....

Lala-lala-lala...


:laugh2:

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Washington fans never realize that the cap purgatory they've been in is worse than cap hell.

Teams that go in to cap hell usually make a run (think Dallas, SF or even Tennessee) burn it down, then rebuild to make another run.

Teams in cap purgatory never make a run they just stay in the rut from sucky to mediocre. Since the advent of the cap, or more importantly, the Snyder era, has Washington ever been a legitimate Super Bowl contender?

 

[5Stars]

Washington fans never realize that the cap purgatory they've been in is worse than cap hell.

Teams that go in to cap hell usually make a run (think Dallas, SF or even Tennessee) burn it down, then rebuild to make another run.

Teams in cap purgatory never make a run they just stay in the rut from sucky to mediocre. Since the advent of the cap, or more importantly, the Snyder era, has Washington ever been a legitimate Super Bowl contender?

Every year....every year! Ask around ES, or ask the RedStink trolls here...they are SuperBowl bound...every year!



:laugh2:

 

[jobberone]

Kendall could be a good acquistion this year and next` Who knows` It is not a bad decision`

It is the idea of using FA instead of the draft to build and keep a contending franchise that brings ridicule on the Skins` I dont see a good retort to that` When they win a SB with that approach I will believe otherwise`