PFT: Jets trade G Pete Kendall to Skins *Merge*

[chicago JK]

yea, and all the 34+ year old linemen we've brought in have proved valuable.

wait...

well, at least we didn't trade solid picks for cut-bait.

put it this way - stanback or kendall?

How bout Kendall or Free? Which front office would you rather have? While Free may not be much help this year, it will be interesting to look back two or three years from now. How bout Kendall or MBIII. Or how bout Kendall or Skyler Green.....Well ok, you got me there

 

[big dog cowboy]

Those draft picks sure do seem to disappear becfore draft day for the Skins.

 

[Green28]

BTW on ES I have seen people say Kendall is a upgrade over Dockery and how he is already considered a good starter despite not stepping on the practice field yet. I wonder how many skin fans would have ranked Kendall over Dockery last year when Dock was a skin?

Actually, the post you reference is including the difference in cost when making that comparison.

 

[chicago JK]

these people would sell themselves a leper if danny drafted one.

Well does Brandon Lloyd Count? I know they didn't draft him but still

 

[Green28]

Yup, Kendall is an upgrade over that dreck... I'm not saying he makes their line good now, but it's not as bad as it was yesterday...

You're unbelievable. The Skins were in the top 5 in rushing and sacks allowed last year.

 

[iceberg]

How bout Kendall or Free? Which front office would you rather have? While Free may not be much help this year, it will be interesting to look back two or three years from now. How bout Kendall or MBIII. Or how bout Kendall or Skyler Green.....Well ok, you got me there

free is doing well so far, so free by far. i'll take the young guy with a career ahead of him more often than an old guy on his last stop or two.

i don't discount the move itself but if a 4th rounder that's just stupid. there will be a plethora of OG's released in the coming weeks you can pick up. but snyder even then when signing a FA would probably still throw a pick back to the league cause that's all he knows how to do.

i can see it as an "ok" move but the hype of making them instantly a top flight OL now because of 1 move? last i checked there are 5 guys out there and 1 just can't do it all.

 

[chicago JK]

Kendall bemoans the needle and damage done
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...amage_do-3.html

Monday, August 20th 2007, 4:00 AM

In 2004, Pete Kendall played with a broken toe, taking painkilling injections every Sunday so he could perform. In 2005, he played with a bad back. More weekly injections. If a similar situation arises this season, he's not sure if he'd take a needle for an organization that, in his mind, has betrayed him.

"It's a great question," the disgruntled Jets guard told the Daily News yesterday. "There have been so many times over the years that I've taken needles over my wife's objections, my family's objections, even my agent and my doctors. If another situation like that would present itself, I would really have to think twice about risking further serious damage and/or permanent injury."

A statement like that in the play-at-any-cost world of the NFL is borderline heresy. But Kendall is so disgusted with the Jets, who he believes reneged on a promise to renegotiate his contract, that he might not be willing to be the good gladiator anymore. Kendall felt further insulted yesterday when he learned that he's now alternating at left guard with rookie Jacob Bender, a sixth-round pick from Nicholls State in Louisiana. Bender received a good chunk of the first-team reps and may start this week against the Giants. Adrien Clarke, who started the first two games, played poorly against the Vikings and was demoted. Asked how it feels to be competing against a rookie from a Division I-AA school, Kendall, a 10-year starter, said, "I'm going to leave that one alone. No comment."

His willingness to take pain-killing injections in the past has resulted in "permanent, irreversible damage to different parts of my body," Kendall said. "I can still function as an offensive lineman and I can still do things with my kids, but I certainly would think long and hard if I were going to jeopardize any of that at this stage of the game."
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[iceberg]

Well does Brandon Lloyd Count? I know they didn't draft him but still

FA's is probably a better way to put it anyway. : )

i can hear it now "yea, he'll be running down the field and a hand will fall off and no one will want to tackle him!!! BRILLIANT!!!"

 

[iceberg]

Kendall bemoans the needle and damage done
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...amage_do-3.html

Monday, August 20th 2007, 4:00 AM

In 2004, Pete Kendall played with a broken toe, taking painkilling injections every Sunday so he could perform. In 2005, he played with a bad back. More weekly injections. If a similar situation arises this season, he's not sure if he'd take a needle for an organization that, in his mind, has betrayed him.

"It's a great question," the disgruntled Jets guard told the Daily News yesterday. "There have been so many times over the years that I've taken needles over my wife's objections, my family's objections, even my agent and my doctors. If another situation like that would present itself, I would really have to think twice about risking further serious damage and/or permanent injury."

A statement like that in the play-at-any-cost world of the NFL is borderline heresy. But Kendall is so disgusted with the Jets, who he believes reneged on a promise to renegotiate his contract, that he might not be willing to be the good gladiator anymore. Kendall felt further insulted yesterday when he learned that he's now alternating at left guard with rookie Jacob Bender, a sixth-round pick from Nicholls State in Louisiana. Bender received a good chunk of the first-team reps and may start this week against the Giants. Adrien Clarke, who started the first two games, played poorly against the Vikings and was demoted. Asked how it feels to be competing against a rookie from a Division I-AA school, Kendall, a 10-year starter, said, "I'm going to leave that one alone. No comment."

His willingness to take pain-killing injections in the past has resulted in "permanent, irreversible damage to different parts of my body," Kendall said. "I can still function as an offensive lineman and I can still do things with my kids, but I certainly would think long and hard if I were going to jeopardize any of that at this stage of the game."
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while it may not be fair for kendall, sounds like he was on the way out the door anyway.

 

[silverbear]

yea, and all the 34+ year old linemen we've brought in have proved valuable.

wait...

well, at least we didn't trade solid picks for cut-bait.

put it this way - stanback or kendall?

Stanback, but we don't need Kendall... he surely wouldn't have a snowball's chance in Hades of starting for us...

 

[zrinkill]

alternating at left guard with rookie Jacob Bender, a sixth-round pick from Nicholls State in Louisiana. Bender received a good chunk of the first-team reps and may start this week against the Giants. Asked how it feels to be competing against a rookie from a Division I-AA school, Kendall, a 10-year starter, said, "I'm going to leave that one alone. No comment."

His willingness to take pain-killing injections in the past has resulted in "permanent, irreversible damage to different parts of my body," Kendall said.

The Skins got a steal ....... :laugh2:

 

[random Cs]

I guess the Todd Wade experiment is over.

Btw, a *2009 4th rounder isn't exactly giving up the farm. We'll see what the trade details are.

 

[AmishGangsta]

I guess the Todd Wade experiment is over.

Btw, a 2008 4th rounder isn't exactly giving up the farm. We'll see what the trade details are.

It's a conditional pick based on performance and not a 4th rounder - we don't have a 4th rounder.

 

[iceberg]

I guess the Todd Wade experiment is over.

Btw, a 2008 4th rounder isn't exactly giving up the farm. We'll see what the trade details are.

if we did it there's be a lot of us not happy we gave up a pick for a player soon to be cut. anything more than a 7th or MAYBE but even then, he's instant FA when cut and can sign where he wants. just make him a good deal.

danny just ain't happy unless he's busting a move.

 

[skinsfunguy]

He is old and has little time left in the league at an effective level.

Let me remind you of a little trade that speaks volumes about your organization.

in 2004 washington traded their 05 fifth round pick to the eagles for wr James Thrash. the skins insisted they needed a wr and another player in the now, the team and the fans said oh its just a 5th rounder giving no value to it.

Well the Eagles used that 5th round pick on Trent Cole. Cole is a better pass rusher than anyone on the Commanders roster still. On top of that the Commanders had to give a boatload of money to an end who can not rush the passer in andre carter.

Keeping that 5th round pick was the better smarter move for the skins.

Time will tell on this one, if you win the superbowl and have a top 3 rated running game (which I believe you will) then it is a success, but if he gets hurt or is awful and the team is .500 and misses the playoffs then it is another instance where young talent is not an option.

Touche' I guess we'll see

 

[superpunk]

Worst, most hackneyed phrase ever...

Not to mention completely false, as we watch every Commanders who ought to be "core" be given his walking papers.

Posted this to a Commanders pal....

It's the whole approach to putting a roster together that I find ridiculous, and incomprehensible.

Yeah - they had to make this move.

Yeah - it concievably helps them today.

This year, instead of resigning their 26 year old home-grown guard, who is getting better (and with as much as you guys jock their cap "expertism" - they could have swung that), they sign a 32 year old linebacker and trade another draft pick for a 34 year old guard (who wants a raise) and bring back Smoot. All the while they haggle with Chris Cooley and some other nice home-grown player I can't remember right now. Not even mentioning Duckett trade and trading for Brandon Lloyd and extending him before he ever hit the field.

It all seems like nonsense to me. But maybe they know something I don't?

 

[skinsfunguy]

This seems like a pretty good move.

Kendall seems like a good character guy...



...and he's ONLY 34.

He could definitely be a core Commander for years. Unlike Derrick Dockery.

Derrick Dockery was VASTLY overpayed almost as overpaid as Leonard Davis

We get trash talked when we overpay but they when we decide not to do it we still catch heat. Kind of a double standard huh?

And dont give me the whole "you should have locked him up a year or two earlier" argument because until half way through last year many were considering him a 2nd round bust. Once he started playing well he decided he wanted to hit the freeagent market and cash in with the rest of the overpaid guards.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Good move on their part

 

[skinsfunguy]

Well he is a name we have heard of, but you need to see him fit in before you make any conclussions. they Jets have a pretty smart front office, so maybe they know something.

BTW on ES I have seen people say Kendall is a upgrade over Dockery and how he is already considered a good starter despite not stepping on the practice field yet. I wonder how many skin fans would have ranked Kendall over Dockery last year when Dock was a skin?

BTW, LOL at the Skin fans who made arguments that Todd Wade was a better guard than Leonard Davis this offseason.

Considering Todd Wade was a LT last year I dont think anyone made that argument.

 

[AmishGangsta]

It all seems like nonsense to me. But maybe they know something I don't?

I think when you are as aggressive as the Skins are, you are a very easy target for ridicule. Not to mention that, they do things so much differently the other teams, when it doesn't work you're an idiot, when it does work you are a genius.

I personally like the fact that they go against the grain and they have their own way of doing things, there's more of a chance for failure, however, there's still that chance that you might gain some sort of advantage.

If the Skins were to become successful with these strategies, how many teams do you think would start being more aggressive, it's a copy cat league -- we're already seeing teams throw money around in free agency like the Patriots and 49ers.