PFT: Jets trade G Pete Kendall to Skins *Merge*

[silverbear]

Who's judging these matches?

The rest of the assorted boards I frequent, as is always the case...

 

[silverbear]

if he drops 5 more levels of unbelievability, he can be a skins fan. : )

I don't even wanna contemplate the amount of drugs it would take to get me there... a lobotomy would be quicker...

 

[zrinkill]

I don't even wanna contemplate the amount of drugs it would take to get me there... a lobotomy would be quicker...

But not near as much fun.

 

[yennor24]

i'm a realist also - funny, i never see you at the meetings. : )

if trading for a 34 year old OL vastly improves your line, that speaks volumes of how bad the line was.

and if you think 1 34 year old player really makes that difference, please, let me sell you my book "an idiots guide to getting out of crap-ditches".

Thats because there arent enough people to have the meeting...
I dont know Kendall, so Im not saying whether he hurts or helps them, what im saying is there O line is not a weakness of that team....The mark of a realist, I dont know...You never hear that around here much......

 

[DCBoysfan]

But offensive lines don't factor into the fantasy equation, do they??

I ask because I don't play that game, never have found it interesting... but my understanding is you draft a defense, then you draft quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, tight ends (not in that order)...

I'll just say that his comments about the few sacks the Skins gave up doesn't consider WHY they gave up so few sacks... basically, they didn't throw the ball all that often (they were 24th in the NFL with 470 pass attempts), and they threw the ball short a LOT... Brunell averaged 6.9 yards per attempt, Campbell averaged 6.3... for comparison, Romo led the league among QBs with at least 200 attempts, at 8.6 yards per attempt...

Throwing the ball relatively infrequently + dumping the ball off with great regularity = few sack opportunities... basically, it's hard to sack ANY QB if he's getting rid of if inside of 3 seconds...

Very good point, I saw that team play just about every game last year and the are a big screen team. That can account for the yards per pass attempts. They do not like throwing the ball down field, even with S. Moss

 

[LowTech]

Listening to these deadskin fans is hilarious, thats all I can say.

 

[adbutcher]

This seems like a pretty good move.

Kendall seems like a good character guy...



...and he's ONLY 34.

He could definitely be a core Commander for years. Unlike Derrick Dockery.

:laugh2:

 

[iceberg]

Thats because there arent enough people to have the meeting......

well not in skins land, so you got me there.

 

[silverbear]

To be honest, I didn't know it was a fantasy football article, I just pulled up one of the hundreds of articles that have the Skins oline rated at the top of the league, I'm not going to post them all.

OK, then pick the one from the source you consider most credible... I'm easy...

I think being one of the top 5 teams in rushing yards and being 3rd in the NFL in sacks speak for themselves

And I think the Skins' TOTAL OFFENSE ranking tells a more complete story on that one... I've already explained why they didn't give up many sacks, they didn't trust their quarterbacks to hold the ball long enough to look downfield... and there's more to offense than just running the ball...

As far as your post on the Skins secondary,

They have Taylor, Landry (the kid looks to be for real; I don't care what team you root for). Shawn Springs is the best corner back on the team, and one of the top corners in the league, when he's healthy. They drafted Carlos Rogers -- who, up until last year was looking like a solid pick -- however, everyone struggled on their D last year, which I think was due to lack of depth at LB and secondary.

OK, that's my bad, I thought you were asking what problems I had with the Skins' depth on the secondary... but you were asking about my problems with them overall... I can answer that one, too-- the Skins have still shown themselves to be vulnerable to the pass in this preseason, giving up over 65 per cent completions and right at 195 yards per game... part of the reason for this is a lack of pass rush again this preseason, of course, but so long as that continues, the Skins will find themselves quite vulnerable to the better quarterbacks in the league...

Fred Smoot struggled while he was in Minnesota, you're right about that, but he was also had a lot of non-football related issues that happened to him, not to mention the fact that, he just wasn't a good fit for the Vikings.

Make all the excuses you want for him, the bottom line is he got benched by the league's worst pass defense...

To be honest man, if I had to go through some of things he went through last year, I would struggle doing my job too, he's only human.

Macklin was a starter in Arizona.

I've already told you I liked Macklin, but he's the only one of their backups I can say that about...

Prioleau is a solid veteran backup if not an adequate starter when healthy.

188 pounds is too small to be an effective NFL safety...

Believe me, the secondary is the least of my concerns

Hey, I didn't say the secondary was BAD, just that it had some problems too...

 

[dogunwo]

No team ever gets knocked for locking up their own players long-term. That's how you build a franchise, although Gibbs still doesn't know that.

Teams get ripped for trading away the best corner in the league plus a second round draft pick for Clinton Portis and giving him more cash. Teams get ripped for trading a second for Brandon Lloyd and extending him without ever seeing him on the field. Teams get ripped for trading for TJ Duckett's expiring deal and never playing him.

Teams never get ripped for locking up their young stars long-term. When the Skins finally work something out with Cooley, they'll get nothing but praise.

Unless of course, when they inevitably make him the highest paid TE ever to play the position.

 

[silverbear]

But not near as much fun.

I'm pretty sure being a Skins fan is not meant to be fun...

 

[silverbear]

I dont know Kendall, so Im not saying whether he hurts or helps them, what im saying is there O line is not a weakness of that team....

And yet, the Skins just made a trade to shore up that unit, with the start of the regular season right around the corner...

Seems the Skins' brain (t)rust doesn't see things the way you do on this one...

 

[iceberg]

Thats because there arent enough people to have the meeting...
I dont know Kendall, so Im not saying whether he hurts or helps them, what im saying is there O line is not a weakness of that team....The mark of a realist, I dont know...You never hear that around here much......

as for the rest. your T go G experiment failed. your backup G failed or got hurt. how does this mean you don't have a need/weakness on the OL if one of your T positions is so bad you gotta trade for a 34 year old T?

 

[dogunwo]

 

[silverbear]

Very good point, I saw that team play just about every game last year and the are a big screen team. That can account for the yards per pass attempts. They do not like throwing the ball down field, even with S. Moss

Pal, I honestly think their fondness for the short passing game was predicated on a lack of confidence in the quality of their pass blocking... they didn't trust that line to protect long enough for patterns to come open downfield...

 

[5Stars]

Pal, I honestly think their fondness for the short passing game was predicated on a lack of confidence in the quality of their pass blocking... they didn't trust that line to protect long enough for patterns to come open downfield...

But, but, but Satin Moss scored two, tue, 2, to, too, touchdowns on the Cowboys in just 3 seconds to win that game at the end!

Tell me they cannot pass block!

 

[zrinkill]

But, but, but Satin Moss scored two, tue, 2, to, too, touchdowns on the Cowboys in just 3 seconds to win that game at the end!

Tell me they cannot pass block!

Funny thing is they are proud of that miracle ..... heck that one guy said they are 4-2 against us. :laugh2:

 

[Idgit]

No team ever gets knocked for locking up their own players long-term. That's how you build a franchise, although Gibbs still doesn't know that.

Teams get ripped for trading away the best corner in the league plus a second round draft pick for Clinton Portis and giving him more cash. Teams get ripped for trading a second for Brandon Lloyd and extending him without ever seeing him on the field. Teams get ripped for trading for TJ Duckett's expiring deal and never playing him.

Teams never get ripped for locking up their young stars long-term. When the Skins finally work something out with Cooley, they'll get nothing but praise.

Sure, when you list it all out like that it *sounds* stupid.

 

[yennor24]

as for the rest. your T go G experiment failed. your backup G failed or got hurt. how does this mean you don't have a need/weakness on the OL if one of your T positions is so bad you gotta trade for a 34 year old T?

First im a COWBOYS FAN........My point is they obviously felt that that guard wasnt getting the job done so they went after Kendall, so that should be a upgrade for this year right???? like I said earlier if they got a nice wr or a pass rusher It would have made them much stronger....

 

[iceberg]

First im a COWBOYS FAN........My point is they obviously felt that that guard wasnt getting the job done so they went after Kendall, so that should be a upgrade for this year right???? like I said earlier if they got a nice wr or a pass rusher It would have made them much stronger....

great - thanks for the update but it doesn't change that the line sucked or they'd not be trading for a 34 year old tackle who's mad at his current team.

another wr? they've got a refugee camp of 'em as it is.