News: PFT: NFL will file for expedited appeal in Ezekiel Elliott case

[Nova]

He's in his right to suspend players as he sees fit, but the process of how he gets there is relevant. I'm not a labor law expert, but those who are seem to think the NFLPA has a good shot at winning. The fact that Kia Roberts is testifying that the NFL process was done unfairly and ignored her findings as lead investigator throws a monkey wrench into this thing. That's exactly how J. Mazzant viewed it as well.

The case is now about whether Zeke had received a fair process in this investigation.

It seems obvious he didn't get a fair shake, but I keep seeing that it's a hard case to make because the league can do whatever they want.

But that's not exactly true either. Hardy's suspension was ultimately reduced because 10 games was an unprecedented punishment to levy.

While the rules are now different, this year long investigation into Zeke over something he hadn't been charged or convicted for seems unprecedented even in the post Ray Rice rule change.

After Josh Brown got away with 1 game, I read an article with this mind boggling stat:

Since the rule change, only 2 out of 17 DV instances resulted in an actual 6 game suspension.

I think that precedent plus Kia Robert's testimony can paint the more accurate picture that the league did what it did out of an agenda.

 

[L-O-Jete]

Since the rule change, only 2 out of 17 DV instances resulted in an actual 6 game suspension.

Interesting, do you have a link?

 

[JoeKing]

Not happening. Goodell is within his rights per the CBA to do this. As wrong as it is, the commissioner can suspend on a whim to pander to women. Which is all this is.

Zeke is merely delaying the inevitable.

Nope. That's not how a business that is accountable to fair business practices is allowed to operate. The CBA did not give Goodell god-like discretion to do as he pleases despite your stubbornness to repeat that false narrative again and again. Fairness is a fundamental right that can not be negotiated away by a CBA.

 

[erod]

What's crazy is that this case has zero, zilch, nada to do with Ezekiel Elliott and Tiffany Thompson anymore. They're now just potted plants in the room. What happened between them is completely irrelevant moving forward.

This is now ENTIRELY about Kia Roberts, Harold Henderson, Lisa Friel, and Roger Goodell. They are on trial now, and how they processed this investigation, decision, and ruling.

 

[sideon]

You'd rather wait and use a high draft pick to address a 6 game suspension.

That's, like, the worst idea of all.

I'd rather use a mid round pick to address an already fragile position, Morris & McFadden can't do what Zeke can do combined. They were going to need a back RB at some point, so it's better to draft one and upgrade the position. You really think the Cowboys could get by without Zeke for 6 games this year?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I understand that Zeke should fight this to the end to prove his innocence but this thing will end with him still suspended for 6 games. I'd rather do it now and get it over with.

It's still ill-advised to take that route.

You don't take a suspension until you have to.

I believe EE will get the 6 games in the end, but regardless of him fighting for his innocence, you don't take the punishment until you have to.




YR

 

[diefree666]

I believe that too unfortunately.

It is amazing to me how many here think the CBA was written by the Finger of GOD and therefore is superior to the Constitution and Human rights and everything. Talk about head in the sand....

 

[dogberry]

Does Ms Roberts still work for the NFL?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think the problem for EE in the end is that the NFL will just say that they didn't find him credible. The NFL will then argue that is all that matters. Not that Tiffany Thompson wasn't credible, it's if their employee (EE) is credible. Essentially, I think they will end up arguing that their 'credible evidence' is that they found EE to not be credible (which I disagree with, but that's the NFL's stance).

I would be surprised if they overturn the TRO because those are not usually won and Mazzant's point is that he sees unfairness in the process and he more or less feels that the NFLPA has the right to plead their case in front of a court. Tough to argue against that even if you're pro-NFL and think EE is guilty.





YR

 

[gimmesix]

You'd rather wait and use a high draft pick to address a 6 game suspension.

That's, like, the worst idea of all.

I'm not for using a high draft pick, but I think we'll have to address the position at some point in the draft. I would have no problem with Dallas using a fourth-rounder next year for a bona fide backup.

 

[lopey]

The problem I see is the courts will side with Zeke and throw out the suspension as it stands now and order the NFL to redo the whole process, meaning they must allow all the evidence in their decision. Goodell will then just give the 6 games again. He has that right in the CBA

 

[funkytown]

I'm not for using a high draft pick, but I think we'll have to address the position at some point in the draft. I would have no problem with Dallas using a fourth-rounder next year for a bona fide backup.

You are correct. The back up running back position will need to be addressed next year. Because with Zeke you never know when the backup will become the full time starter for 6 to 10 games. Or more.

No more McFadden's or Morris'. We need a younger back to replace Zeke if/when he get suspended. Not to overreact to week 1, but look at the impact rookie backs made on the games last week. The running back position is a young man's game.

 

[erod]

It is amazing to me how many here think the CBA was written by the Finger of GOD and therefore is superior to the Constitution and Human rights and everything. Talk about head in the sand....

Courts do not like to get involved in two-party contracts. Ever. It's too much of a Pandora's box.

 

[The Natural]

The problem I see is the courts will side with Zeke and throw out the suspension as it stands now and order the NFL to redo the whole process, meaning they must allow all the evidence in their decision. Goodell will then just give the 6 games again. He has that right in the CBA

Call me an optimist but I don't believe so.

 

[erod]

It's still ill-advised to take that route.

You don't take a suspension until you have to.

I believe EE will get the 6 games in the end, but regardless of him fighting for his innocence, you don't take the punishment until you have to.

YR

I think the Cowboys fear that Zeke is just going to get himself suspended next offseason anyway, so might as well use him this season all they can.

If Zeke doesn't grow up right now, fast, it's going to be a short career.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

The problem I see is the courts will side with Zeke and throw out the suspension as it stands now and order the NFL to redo the whole process, meaning they must allow all the evidence in their decision. Goodell will then just give the 6 games again. He has that right in the CBA

Look, guys! I found another one!

 

[erod]

Call me an optimist but I don't believe so.

Perhaps.

But what about the offseason? If this guy has the drinking problem that's rumored, and perhaps worse, how long......?

 

[The Natural]

Perhaps.

But what about the offseason? If this guy has the drinking problem that's rumored, and perhaps worse, how long......?

Who said he has a drinking problem?

 

[TheHerd]

Who said he has a drinking problem?

It's been rumored. On the internet.

 

[TheHerd]

The case is now about whether Zeke had received a fair process in this investigation.

It seems obvious he didn't get a fair shake, but I keep seeing that it's a hard case to make because the league can do whatever they want.

But that's not exactly true either. Hardy's suspension was ultimately reduced because 10 games was an unprecedented punishment to levy.

While the rules are now different, this year long investigation into Zeke over something he hadn't been charged or convicted for seems unprecedented even in the post Ray Rice rule change.

After Josh Brown got away with 1 game, I read an article with this mind boggling stat:

Since the rule change, only 2 out of 17 DV instances resulted in an actual 6 game suspension.

I think that precedent plus Kia Robert's testimony can paint the more accurate picture that the league did what it did out of an agenda.

You didn't hear? Josh Brown actually got 6 games. Nothing to see here folks, move along.