News: PFT: NFL will file for expedited appeal in Ezekiel Elliott case

[JoeKing]

I agree and have posted the same thing over and over here.

But the court system still doesn't like to circumvent negotiated contracts, and the NFLPA bent over on this. We'll see if the courts elect to go against the CBA, or do what they did in the Peterson and Brady cases, and rule in favor of the NFL.

I've heard numerous legal experts, and most of them overwhelmingly still believe Elliott will serve six games next season.

Roger the Clown's contract extension was on a fast track until Jerry Jones inserted himself in the negotiations. Now those talks seem to be on hold. Jerry was the one that leaked to the media NFL investigator Kia Roberts's recommendation to not punish Ezekiel Elliott. Kia Roberts's testimony at Ezekiel Elliott's appeal hearing had an extremely damning effect on the NFL's case. The Judge seemed to agree that the investigators recommendations were covered up and ignored on the Clown's ruling to Elliott. My point is Jerry Jones seems to be the puppet master in all of this and he may be willing to stay out of the way of the Clown's contract extension if the Clown drops the case against Elliott. In that way I see Elliot has a far better ally in Jerry Jones than Tom Brady ever did in Mr. Kraft. We'll just have to wait and see how this plays out.

 

[Nightman]

I agree and have posted the same thing over and over here.

But the court system still doesn't like to circumvent negotiated contracts, and the NFLPA bent over on this. We'll see if the courts elect to go against the CBA, or do what they did in the Peterson and Brady cases, and rule in favor of the NFL.

I've heard numerous legal experts, and most of them overwhelmingly still believe Elliott will serve six games next season.

The whole Personal Conduct Policy which includes the new DV Policy was expanded and re-written without the consent of NFLPA..... that is what is getting argued

Yes the NFLPA gave the commish a lot of power but they did not give up the rights or due process or fairness and they definitely didn't say do whatever you want even if their are no charges brought

I bet in the next CBA the language is much more detailed and requires an arrest, conviction. plea deal or settlement BEFORE punishment can be administered .... the NFL should not be in the business of finding and creating violations, just ruling on the adjudicated ones

It is just like the replay system...........it was implemented to prevent egregious mistakes but now it is used to take long scoring plays and turnovers off the board...... it is killing the sport....... all the spontaneity is gone..... they are looking for loopholes to overturn big plays just like they are doing with the players ....... they are looking for crimes and drug violations instead of trying to minimize them

 

[erod]

I am NOT a lawyer, though I was a fan of Perry Mason. Think this will be interesting and will be decided by the luck of the draw (the propensity of the judges making the decision). It's a case that reeks of unfairness and judges inclined to protect the individual will probably make pretzels of themselves finding a legal argument to support Mazzant. It surely seems like the best argument is that the NFL itself violated the CBA by allowing the process to become fundamentally unfair. That argument would allow them to both uphold the sanctity of the contract and find for Elliott. Judges less inclined to be concerned with whether the process was unfair to the individual probably would be less inclined to take that route.

But I could see judges being moved by the fact the NFLPA negotiates from a fundamentally weak position, owing to the brevity of its members' careers and to the virtual monopoly position held by the NFL. The scenario screams for judicial oversight.

I've made this argument. There is a red line somewhere with regard to the league's power. Obviously it doesn't have absolute power. The question is where the red line is drawn, and every judge will probably see it being in a different position than do their peers. Brady's alleged sin involved on-field competition. It made sense for judges to give the league a good deal of deference. Elliott's alleged sin has nothing to do with on-field competition, and it makes sense judges will be inclined to be less deferential to the league. People do have fundamental rights -- even those working under a collective bargaining agreement. And this seems especially true when they have very little choice in the matter, assuming they wish to play pro football.

I really hope the court supports Mazzant's decision because I believe he is fundamentally right. The NFL is fighting for its life here. If it loses this case, then its control will be compromised dramatically moving forward.

I think the NFL will win the next round this offseason, BUT I also think Zeke is ready to do what Peterson and Brady didn't. Take it to the Supreme Court.

That wouldn't be good, so I hope the court just upholds Mazzant.

 

[erod]

Roger the Clown's contract extension was on a fast track until Jerry Jones inserted himself in the negotiations. Now those talks seem to be on hold. Jerry was the one that leaked to the media NFL investigator Kia Roberts's recommendation to not punish Ezekiel Elliott. Kia Roberts's testimony at Ezekiel Elliott's appeal hearing had an extremely damning effect on the NFL's case. The Judge seemed to agree that the investigators recommendations were covered up and ignored on the Clown's ruling to Elliott. My point is Jerry Jones seems to be the puppet master in all of this and he may be willing to stay out of the way of the Clown's contract extension if the Clown drops the case against Elliott. In that way I see Elliot has a far better ally in Jerry Jones than Tom Brady ever did in Mr. Kraft. We'll just have to wait and see how this plays out.

The NFL is fighting for its life in terms of control moving forward. I think it would be smart for them to drop the case.

However, they've let it get personal from the get-go (Mara?), and now they've got themselves cornered. Especially if they win and Zeke takes it all the way to the Supreme Court.

Public opinion has already been lost. How much damage does the NFL want on this, win or lose?

 

[erod]

I'm sure Chris Christie is paying close attention to this case. I'm sure he's as irritated by this as any NFL fan. I don't imagine he's just going to sit idle, and watch the rights of one of the players, on his favorite team be trampled. I imagine there have already been many conversations, behind the scenes in the political realm, in regard to this case.

Christie just wants to get to Krispy Kreme's before the bear claws are gone.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

Christie just wants to get to Krispy Kreme's before the bear claws are gone.

I had to go all the way back to my 3rd grade mind, to laugh at that joke. Sorry, I thought we were having an adult conversation here.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

They don't care whether or not he actually did anything wrong. They just want to look tough on domestic violence. Just appease the feminist hate groups and let the good of the game be damned.

 

[erod]

I had to go all the way back to my 3rd grade mind, to laugh at that joke. Sorry, I thought we were having an adult conversation here.

I'm never above a good fart level joke.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Elliott suspension could begin Week Three, at the earliest
Posted by Mike Florio on September 14, 2017, 2:47 PM EDT

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As the NFL tries to pull the plug on the ruling that pulls the plug on the suspension of Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, the appeals court could be plugging in the process of giving the league a ruling as soon as next week.

Per a league source, the NFL believes that a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit staying the preliminary injunction blocking the suspension could happen by early next week. This would mean that Elliott, if the league wins, would begin to serve his six-game suspension as of Week Three (when the Cowboys facing the Cardinals on a Monday night), with the ability to continue to challenge the suspension in court. Though he’d be paid for the games he’d miss if successful, he’d likely miss the six games


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nsion-could-begin-week-three-at-the-earliest/

 

[phildadon86]

I really hope the court supports Mazzant's decision because I believe he is fundamentally right. The NFL is fighting for its life here. If it loses this case, then its control will be compromised dramatically moving forward.

I think the NFL will win the next round this offseason, BUT I also think Zeke is ready to do what Peterson and Brady didn't. Take it to the Supreme Court.

That wouldn't be good, so I hope the court just upholds Mazzant.

The issue is that while the CBA does give the comish all this power. It's only if it's fair. I don't know why that is so hard for so many people to understand. Zekes basic rights under labor law were trampled on here. No where in the CBA does it say Roger can do as he pleases and suspend people while not being fair.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

I'm never above a good fart level joke.

Me either. Guess I'm being a little sensitive, but this Elliott case is a sensitive matter for me. For a guy to potentially, falsely, be forever branded as a woman beater, without facts to support it, is outrageous on so many levels, in my opinion.

 

[erod]

The issue is that while the CBA does give the comish all this power. It's only if it's fair. I don't know why that is so hard for so many people to understand. Zekes basic rights under labor law were trampled on here. No where in the CBA does it say Roger can do as he pleases and suspend people while not being fair.

Legal experts generally agree he will serve the suspension eventually. It seems wrong, but that's what most of them claim.

 

[Corso]

Christie just wants to get to Krispy Kreme's before the bear claws are gone.

I actually snorted.

 

[erod]

Elliott suspension could begin Week Three, at the earliest
Posted by Mike Florio on September 14, 2017, 2:47 PM EDT

Getty Images

As the NFL tries to pull the plug on the ruling that pulls the plug on the suspension of Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, the appeals court could be plugging in the process of giving the league a ruling as soon as next week.

Per a league source, the NFL believes that a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit staying the preliminary injunction blocking the suspension could happen by early next week. This would mean that Elliott, if the league wins, would begin to serve his six-game suspension as of Week Three (when the Cowboys facing the Cardinals on a Monday night), with the ability to continue to challenge the suspension in court. Though he’d be paid for the games he’d miss if successful, he’d likely miss the six games


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nsion-could-begin-week-three-at-the-earliest/

This might be why they are saving McFadden.

 

[Nightman]

Elliott suspension could begin Week Three, at the earliest
Posted by Mike Florio on September 14, 2017, 2:47 PM EDT

Getty Images

As the NFL tries to pull the plug on the ruling that pulls the plug on the suspension of Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, the appeals court could be plugging in the process of giving the league a ruling as soon as next week.

Per a league source, the NFL believes that a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit staying the preliminary injunction blocking the suspension could happen by early next week. This would mean that Elliott, if the league wins, would begin to serve his six-game suspension as of Week Three (when the Cowboys facing the Cardinals on a Monday night), with the ability to continue to challenge the suspension in court. Though he’d be paid for the games he’d miss if successful, he’d likely miss the six games


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nsion-could-begin-week-three-at-the-earliest/

There is no earthly reason to give the NFL a stay of the injunction.... they will get their pound of flesh eventually and they hurt their case by suspending Josh Brown this week....... it proves they can suspend a player a year later just like Brady and EE is under contract for 2 more years

 

[Risen Star]

It is a great idea when we have 10 draft picks and 2-3 open jobs

We need to get younger at RB and RB2 is not a depth position.....it is a job that gets 10-15 touches a game

Negative. I'm not using a high pick on some inferior bench player to Zeke Elliott just because fans are hyperventilating over a suspension.

10-15 touches a game? Show me the backup that got that last week. Did you just make that up? If the Cowboys draft an inferior running back to get 10-15 touches in a rotation with Zeke they are complete and total morons. Congrats. You made your offense worse by watering down one of the best players in the game.

Let's draft a player high because another player has a 6 game suspension looming.

Fans.

 

[sacase]

Legal experts generally agree he will serve the suspension eventually. It seems wrong, but that's what most of them claim.

You keep repeating that without any proof.....

 

[Jason 82 Witten]

The NFL took a year to investigate this, but they sure seem to be moving quickly to have Zeke suspended

 

[Risen Star]

It's still ill-advised to take that route.

You don't take a suspension until you have to.

I believe EE will get the 6 games in the end, but regardless of him fighting for his innocence, you don't take the punishment until you have to.




YR

Spoken by a man who doesn't have to pay his legal fees.

And one of the first to lament should this suspension occur during a late season playoff race.


RS

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I'm pretty sure the league appeal comes as NO SURPRISE to judge Mazzant. In fact, understanding the magnitude of the case and power of the NFL, I wonder if he consulted with several legal scholars on the NFL chances during an appeal.