PFW on the Skins' attempts to bolster their DL...

[random Cs]

Naw, I'll just note that he didn't do a very good job of it this offseason... so now, Skins fans are trying to convince us that it's not a big deal, that the DL isn't really "important" in the Skins' system...

Yeah, RIIIIIIIGGGGHHHTTTTTT... never mind that last year, Andre Carter was supposed to be the savior of the Skins' pass rush, according to those same fans...

The offseason aint over yet.

Wynn and Daniels are approaching their 12th and 13th seasons. Griffin and Salave'a have been banged up the past two seasons. Anyone who says we don't need D-Line help has been reading to many articles from writers trying to rationalize the draft.

I love the Landry pick btw. D-Line isn't the only place we need new talent.



As for the who starts over whom argument. Rocky isn't the starter at weakside. He has to beat out Lemar for that spot first. Not that it's relevent, just sayin.

 

[Disturbed]

We should always look at our older players (anyone over 30) as possible trades -- maybe try to get a decent draft choice for them over the next few years....

A team can not stay on top with very many old players. Better to plan exit strategy for them and groom replacements via the draft. One possible reason some teams fail late in the season is too many old guys.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I know we are coming off a bad year but some of the things you guys are saying is really out there. The two that stand out the most are people saying Glenn is better than Moss and Adams being equal to Samuels. That's ridiculous. Even for Cowboys fans.

Moss: 55 receptions, 790 yards, 14.4 average, 6 TDs, 14 games

Glenn: 70 receptions, 1047 yards, 15.0 average, 6 TDs, 15 games

Glenn can boast more receptions, yards, and yards per catch than Moss.

In fact, even when we factor in games missed due to injury, Glenn's numbers are still substantially better than Moss':

Moss played in 14 games, averaging 56.4 yards and 3.9 receptions per game.

Glenn played in 15 games, averaging 69.8 yards and 4.7 receptions per game.

So what's "ridiculous?"

 

[dallasfaniac]

Here's what people have to understand: We were where the skins are right now.

We hadn't had a double digit sack person since like 1996, a ten year drought. We'd march out defenses where we put the corners on an island so that we could rush more players at the QB. It worked for a time, however, it always got exposed eventually and then teams just started ripping you apart like tissue paper.

If the Commanders had taken a CB, this whole argument might be plausible, but they took another safety and can't afford to put the corners out on an island. So now, there's no pressure and your corners and safeties are deep. Looks like at least one TE from the NFCE will make the probowl thanks to the skins.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

why is a fan of a team that just went 5-11, had one of the worst Ds in league history, trying to compare that w/ our D, which was at least average?

and we just added a very good pass-rusher, which they did not, a secondary player, FS, who had more INTs than both the Skin's safeties COMBINED, and who can actually read a D and make good calls for the secondary

the Commander's biggest improvement was adding a run-stopper...

big-deal, your D needed that to happen!

just be happy that we're making concessions that you're better in ANY area, Oline and RB, and a better MLB

if you stink fans want to make yourselve's feel better about adding one nominal improvement, although one player doesn't make a run D that much better...fine, just don't try to convince us of anything

and Andre Carter...? he finally looks average for 4 games and all of a sudden he's something? J Christ, you skin fans are pathetic

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Moss: 55 receptions, 790 yards, 14.4 average, 6 TDs, 14 games

Glenn: 70 receptions, 1047 yards, 15.0 average, 6 TDs, 15 games

Glenn can boast more receptions, yards, and yards per catch than Moss.

In fact, even when we factor in games missed due to injury, Glenn's numbers are still substantially better than Moss':

Moss played in 14 games, averaging 56.4 yards and 3.9 receptions per game.

Glenn played in 15 games, averaging 69.8 yards and 4.7 receptions per game.

So what's "ridiculous?"

 

[random Cs]

Moss: 55 receptions, 790 yards, 14.4 average, 6 TDs, 14 games

Glenn: 70 receptions, 1047 yards, 15.0 average, 6 TDs, 15 games

Glenn can boast more receptions, yards, and yards per catch than Moss.

In fact, even when we factor in games missed due to injury, Glenn's numbers are still substantially better than Moss':

Moss played in 14 games, averaging 56.4 yards and 3.9 receptions per game.

Glenn played in 15 games, averaging 69.8 yards and 4.7 receptions per game.

So what's "ridiculous?"

Santanna was playing noticibly hurt in a few games.

 

[BigDFan5]

Santanna was playing noticibly hurt in a few games.

umm Glenn was hurt last season as well. He is also our #2 WR, unlike Moss who is a #1

 

[silverbear]

The offseason aint over yet.

Get back to me when the Skins actually do something about bolstering their defensive line... I'm betting if they do, it will be some fringe player, not somebody who can actually step in and help them...

Wynn and Daniels are approaching their 12th and 13th seasons. Griffin and Salave'a have been banged up the past two seasons. Anyone who says we don't need D-Line help has been reading to many articles from writers trying to rationalize the draft.

Sounds right to me...

I love the Landry pick btw. D-Line isn't the only place we need new talent.

Landry was a solid choice, I just think they would have done better by trading down and adding extra first day picks... but I've read they tried to do so, just couldn't find a trade partner...

 

[silverbear]

Santanna was playing noticibly hurt in a few games.

OK, but when you compare their CAREER stats, it's pretty much the same story-- Glenn's are better...

 

[1fisher]

OK, but when you compare their CAREER stats, it's pretty much the same story-- Glenn's are better...

sb.... they just don't get it.....

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Santanna was playing noticibly hurt in a few games.

So? This is professional football. It's a tough, rigorous sport. Everyone is "noticeably hurt" at some point in the season. Given his history, Terry Glenn leads a legion of players who are perennially "noticeably hurt."

The bottom line is this: If a player is healthy enough to take the field, he is accountable for his play.

 

[random Cs]

Get back to me when the Skins actually do something about bolstering their defensive line... I'm betting if they do, it will be some fringe player, not somebody who can actually step in and help them...

Will do.

OK, but when you compare their CAREER stats, it's pretty much the same story-- Glenn's are better...

Slightly better, he averages a bit more ypg and cpg, but Moss' apc is a little higher. He's also 5 years older and Santana has never had any off field problems.

 

[Hostile]

Will do.

Slightly better, he averages a bit more ypg and cpg, but Moss' apc is a little higher. He's also 5 years older and Santana has never had any off field problems.

Really?

Want to make a wager on that one? I do.

 

[silverbear]

Will do.

Slightly better, he averages a bit more ypg and cpg, but Moss' apc is a little higher.

While what you say is true, it should be noted that my response was in direct response to the assertion that Moss was clearly the superior player... clearly, he isn't...

He's also 5 years older and Santana has never had any off field problems.

Glenn has been the epitome of a model citizen for the Cowboys, so I couldn't possibly care less what happened when he was a young WR...

 

[Hostile]

Glenn has been the epitome of a model citizen for the Cowboys, so I couldn't possibly care less what happened when he was a young WR...

But Bear, his claim of Moss not having off the field issues is bogus. Look how fast he ran away when I offered to make a bet with him.

Remember, he was involved in a shoplifting incident at Miami?

 

[silverbear]

But Bear, his claim of Moss not having off the field issues is bogus. Look how fast he ran away when I offered to make a bet with him.

Remember, he was involved in a shoplifting incident at Miami?

Actually, this is the first I've heard of it...

If you pay attention, you learn something new every day...

 

[random Cs]

But Bear, his claim of Moss not having off the field issues is bogus. Look how fast he ran away when I offered to make a bet with him.

Remember, he was involved in a shoplifting incident at Miami?

Fine. He's never had any problems with coaches or players, better?

Btw, ran away? I don't spend all day on this website you know.

 

[Hostile]

Fine. He's never had any problems with coaches or players, better?

Btw, ran away? I don't spend all day on this website you know.

Yes, ran away.

I posted my response 1 minute after you and before you logged off 15 minutes later you were perusing that thread.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Will do.

Slightly better, he averages a bit more ypg and cpg, but Moss' apc is a little higher. He's also 5 years older and Santana has never had any off field problems.

what does that have to do w/ anything? he's been a model citizen so far in Dallas