PFW on the Skins' attempts to bolster their DL...

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MarkBrunell;1491857 said:
Yeah Bradies James and Gregg Ellis are such great players that Bobby can't replace them. On top of that he got another guy drafted in the first round to play the position he was supposed to :lmao2:
Ellis was real good when healthy last year. James has alot of money tied up in him, so it is foolish to think he would not play. Carpenter had an excellent game against Seattle...which you conveniently forgot. Just would not mix with your trolling agenda.

You have to think a little bit outside the box here too. You can never have too many pass rushers. The Steelers took pressure players in the first two rounds this year. There is just a premium there for that position. Take a look at the Bears...they have Brown, Ogunleye, Anderson, but still drafted Bazuin in the 2nd. Teams put a premium on skill positions like that.

I tried to put this in easy terms so hopefully you could follow. Let me know if you need further explanation on anything.
 

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carphalen5150;1492681 said:
Ellis was real good when healthy last year. James has alot of money tied up in him, so it is foolish to think he would not play. Carpenter had an excellent game against Seattle...which you conveniently forgot. Just would not mix with your trolling agenda.

You have to think a little bit outside the box here too. You can never have too many pass rushers. The Steelers took pressure players in the first two rounds this year. There is just a premium there for that position. Take a look at the Bears...they have Brown, Ogunleye, Anderson, but still drafted Bazuin in the 2nd. Teams put a premium on skill positions like that.

I tried to put this in easy terms so hopefully you could follow. Let me know if you need further explanation on anything.

Check and see how many of these LB's and DE's were drafted by these teams in the first round.
 

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MarkBrunell;1492690 said:
Check and see how many of these LB's and DE's were drafted by these teams in the first round.


:laugh2: Like you know anything about the draft! St. Gibbs and The Midget could not figure out a draft if they had too!

Your looking more foolish with each post of yours, however, I just consider the source.


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MarkBrunell;1492690 said:
Check and see how many of these LB's and DE's were drafted by these teams in the first round.

what does what round a player was drafted have to do with anything? you do know that the Bears pride themselves on drafting players in the 4th round, 2nd day area, don't you?
 

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Bob Sacamano;1492701 said:
what does what round a player was drafted have to do with anything?

So you value a player drafted in first and seventh round the same?
 

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MarkBrunell;1492759 said:
So you value a player drafted in first and seventh round the same?


The Skins must. They avoid 1st round picks like the plague and crow about the scrubs they picked up in the 7th. You're too easy, kid. Go do some homework or community service or something. You're getting dumber with every post. A Foreskin fan prerequisite, I assume.

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MarkBrunell;1492690 said:
Check and see how many of these LB's and DE's were drafted by these teams in the first round.
The examples I used from the Bears and the Steelers were 1st and 2nd rounders. What was your point again?
 

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carphalen5150;1492802 said:
The examples I used from the Bears and the Steelers were 1st and 2nd rounders. What was your point again?


The Bears and Steelers haven't drafted LB's or DE's in the first round and second round for consecutive years.
 

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I'd like to know which Commander players could start for our defense...

Shoot....which ones could start on our team on offense?

Griffin might start on the DL
Washington probably
Taylor at FS
Springs?

That's pretty much it.

On offense...
Thomas for Kosier
Possibly Portis
Possibly Jansen...although Columbo played very well at the end of the year

Yeah...they have us on talent don't they?
 

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MarkBrunell;1492848 said:
The Bears and Steelers haven't drafted LB's or DE's in the first round and second round for consecutive years.

are you serious?

Steelers-Lawrence Timmons is a LB, taken in the 1st this year, Lamar Woodley is a LB, taken in the 2nd this year

Bears-Dan Bazuin, DE, taken in the 2nd round
 

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MarkBrunell;1492759 said:
So you value a player drafted in first and seventh round the same?

no, but what round you were taken means about as much as the percentage of your brain that you use, once you're in the NFL
 

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Bizwah;1492855 said:
I'd like to know which Commander players could start for our defense...

Shoot....which ones could start on our team on offense?

Griffin might start on the DL
Washington probably
Taylor at FS
Springs?

That's pretty much it.

On offense...
Thomas for Kosier
Possibly Portis
Possibly Jansen...although Columbo played very well at the end of the year

Yeah...they have us on talent don't they?

Carter beat both of your DEs in every pertinent stat to the DE position... Daniels had more sacks as both of your DEs combined yet you did nothing to shore up that position... Fletcher is a beast, and to think he couldn't start over either of your ILBs is just ********. Those are just the no questions asked, obvious choices (in addition to the ones you said).
On offense, you guys would be syked to get Moss (Glenn is getting old and tailed off last year) and Portis is by far the best back between the two teams. Chris Samuel is far better then Flozell Adams. Randy Thomas WAY over Leonard Davis (he's never played this position and you assume that he'll be good) and Jansen over Colombo (maybe there's a reason he couldn't get another team to give him a decent payday). I'm not sure why you think that, but it's definitely ********.
 

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firehawk350;1492879 said:
Carter beat both of your DEs in every pertinent stat to the DE position...

umm maybe because we play a 34? He would be a OLB here like Ware



Daniels had more sacks as both of your DEs combined yet you did nothing to shore up that position...

again 34 defense uses ends like DT's run stoppers you are aware of the differences in defenses arent you?


Fletcher is a beast, and to think he couldn't start over either of your ILBs is just ********.

He might but lets not pretend he is some world beater

Those are just the no questions asked, obvious choices (in addition to the ones you said).

except you were horribly wrong on 2 of them


On offense, you guys would be syked to get Moss (Glenn is getting old and tailed off last year)

LMAO Glenns tailing off was better than Moss, Moss would be #3 here


and Portis is by far the best back between the two teams.

He said he would start here didnt he?

Chris Samuel is far better then Flozell Adams.

better maybe far better no

Randy Thomas WAY over Leonard Davis (he's never played this position and you assume that he'll be good)

actually he has played the position it was his normal position before being moved out of position to tackle. Seriously man you should know whats you are saying before you type


and Jansen over Colombo (maybe there's a reason he couldn't get another team to give him a decent payday). I'm not sure why you think that, but it's definitely ********

He already said Jansen over colombo
 

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firehawk350;1492879 said:
Carter beat both of your DEs in every pertinent stat to the DE position... Daniels had more sacks as both of your DEs combined yet you did nothing to shore up that position...

lol, you do know that in our 3-4 of last year, the OLBs were the ones applying most of the pressure right?

now we switched to where the DEs are 1-gap and are allowed to rush the passer much more often, so we did in fact, address the DE situation

btw, you know we drafted a pass-rusher in the 1st round, right? who will probably give Carter a run for his money as a rookie

firehawk350 said:
Fletcher is a beast, and to think he couldn't start over either of your ILBs is just ********.

he could, but he wouldn't be a big improvement

firehawk350 said:
On offense, you guys would be syked to get Moss (Glenn is getting old and tailed off last year)

and his year was still equivalent to Moss' year, you should be comparing TO to Moss

firehawk350 said:
and Portis is by far the best back between the two teams.

noone's really debating that, although Portis is a health risk

firehawk350 said:
Chris Samuel is far better then Flozell Adams.

push

firehawk350 said:
Randy Thomas WAY over Leonard Davis (he's never played this position and you assume that he'll be good)

Leonard Davis is both bigger, and a better athlete, and was tremendous as a LG in AZ

firehawk350 said:
Jansen over Colombo (maybe there's a reason he couldn't get another team to give him a decent payday). I'm not sure why you think that, but it's definitely ********.

Colombo only allowed 4.5 sacks last year and his knees aren't gimpy like Jansen's, push

so let's see, you have the RB advantage, a Oline advantage, and then...
 

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BigDFan5;1492883 said:
umm maybe because we play a 34? He would be a OLB here like Ware
again 34 defense uses ends like DT's run stoppers you are aware of the differences in defenses arent you?
Yeah, and he beat them in tackles too, so it doesn't look like they are any better at run stopping either. Hmmmm...




BigDFan5;1492883 said:
He might but lets not pretend he is some world beater
I don't know what world you live in, but in this one, 147 tackles, 4 INTs, 2 sacks and 2 def TDs IS considered pretty damn good. He led the league in tackles for the last 5 years cumulatively and has had over 100 tackles for the last 7 years. Go ahead, look up the stat line, there's not a single category that they beat him in. But yeah, your right, he only MIGHT be better then your duo.


BigDFan5;1492883 said:
except you were horribly wrong on 2 of them
I'll compromise and say that Daniels couldn't start but there's no way Carter can't. So, out of 11 starters, there is Washington, Griffin, Carter, Fletcher, Springs and Taylor. That's six bro... So again, what were you saying about so much more talented?




BigDFan5;1492883 said:
LMAO Glenns tailing off was better than Moss, Moss would be #3 here

Whatever dude... Moss is by far the better receiver and the only reason he didn't have a better season is he was in and out with an injury.


BigDFan5;1492883 said:
better maybe far better no
Flozell has got the Cowboys looking for an OT replacement. The Skins are more then happy with Samuels... Tells a lot...



BigDFan5;1492883 said:
actually he has played the position it was his normal position before being moved out of position to tackle. Seriously man you should know whats you are saying before you type

In college. In case you didn't notice, this is the NFL and just because you were good at something against college competition, doesn't mean your going to be good in the NFL.




[/quote]He already said Jansen over colombo[/quote]

True, my fault...
 

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Flozell has got the Cowboys looking for an OT replacement. The Skins are more then happy with Samuels... Tells a lot...

Yeah that they aren't looking ahead
 

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Yeagermeister;1492911 said:
Yeah that they aren't looking ahead
So, given the choice, would you want Samuel, or Flozell??? And Samuel is only 28 or so (exact age escapes me), so he's got a good 3 years or so left...
 

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firehawk350;1492905 said:
Yeah, and he beat them in tackles too, so it doesn't look like they are any better at run stopping either. Hmmmm...

You can continue to think he could lay DE here but there is no chanccce in hell look at his size compared to every other 34 DE in the league





I don't know what world you live in, but in this one, 147 tackles, 4 INTs, 2 sacks and 2 def TDs IS considered pretty damn good. He led the league in tackles for the last 5 years cumulatively and has had over 100 tackles for the last 7 years. Go ahead, look up the stat line, there's not a single category that they beat him in. But yeah, your right, he only MIGHT be better then your duo.

Umm Hello I was agreeing with you (you said he would start I said he might but he is not an all pro )



I'll compromise and say that Daniels couldn't start but there's no way Carter can't.
Again no chance in hell carter starts at DE


So, out of 11 starters, there is Washington, Griffin, Carter, Fletcher, Springs and Taylor. That's six bro... So again, what were you saying about so much more talented?

Fletcher, Taylor, Springs for 6 games at least, Griffin wouldnt start here srry, Carter not a chance, and Washington while very good would not start over Ware (Washington plays weakside right?)






Whatever dude... Moss is by far the better receiver and the only reason he didn't have a better season is he was in and out with an injury.

and yet he would be #3 here



Flozell has got the Cowboys looking for an OT replacement. The Skins are more then happy with Samuels... Tells a lot...

Maybe because his contract is ending? I said he was better but not far better as you said





In college. In case you didn't notice, this is the NFL and just because you were good at something against college competition, doesn't mean your going to be good in the NFL.

Ok now you did it again you mouthed off without knowing what you wer etalking about HE PLAYED GUARD FOR THE CARDINALS IN THE NFL FOR THE FIRST 2 YEARS OF HIS CAREER


[/quote]He already said Jansen over colombo[/quote]

True, my fault...[/quote]

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