Twitter: Phil Costa retires from NFL

[CowboyStar88]

Considering the crap that Risen takes, it should be pointed out that he is right . He gets bashed constantly when he gives his opinion, but when he is proved right, those that bashed him don't want to talk about it. That speaks volumes about the haters.

How is he right?? The guy is out of the league by CHOICE not because he was cut. He signed a contract with another team. He's not right. Sorry. I like you as a poster but we will disagree on this. RS doesn't need props. He gets hated on because of his posting style he brings it on himself.

 

[CowboyStar88]

The players that show the ability to develop have flashes of their ability. Costa did not.

Well the Colts and Cowboys and scouts disagree. If he had no "ability" the colts wouldn't have signed him to a 2 year deal. Now you are making me defend the guy and I really don't want too. He had to flash something.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Noo but but he was our best center... Move Frederick to guard I heard.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Noo but but he was our best center... Move Frederick to guard I heard.

Context here. We Didn't know who was going to play RG so it was an option. Would we rather have Free playing RG or Fred if we didn't get Waters? We had no clue Mack was going to play better after Waters injury.

 

[Wolfpack]

We had no clue .

Thats how the Dallas front office folks roll, no clue but lot o hope. Lets cut a all-pro center and hope Costa can play. Thats how you get your QB punctured lungs.

 

[jnday]

Well the Colts and Cowboys and scouts disagree. If he had no "ability" the colts wouldn't have signed him to a 2 year deal. Now you are making me defend the guy and I really don't want too. He had to flash something.

Do you really think Costa would have retired or walked away from the game if he was anything more than a scrub? He saw the writing on the wall.

 

[TheDude]

Agreed.

If Costa was released by the Cowboys and wasn't signed by another team... period, is one thing.

But being released by the Cowboys and almost immediately being resigned by another team for a two-year contact (while numerous other centers were still available) and then retires is something else all together.

Trying to claim "credit" for that is like trying to claim credit for the sun coming up tomorrow.

He never even practiced with another team. Not even sure he gets to keep $1 of that new contract...never saw a game check.

People were very quick to yell "in your face" when he signed that nominal contract 3-5 days after being released. For that side to win the argument, he needed to make the 53 man roster.

He didn't do that, the red herring is he "retired" - as if he hadn't he certainly would have made the team. His contract was for a vet camp body - expendable but option if he had promise. No Risk for the Colts.

 

[TheDude]

The sad part? They won't learn anything from it. They'll tell us we don't know and that the coaches must see something in the next stiff. And then when we're proven right, again, they'll call us a hater and ask us how we could root against a Cowboy.

BTW, that next stiff is Matt Johnson. Can't play. Won't play. Will be out of the league in a few years max.

Wait for it. Apparently I have a 50/50 chance of being right.

have you broken down his 2 preseason tackles?

 

[jnday]

He never even practiced with another team. Not even sure he gets to keep $1 of that new contract...never saw a game check.

People were very quick to yell "in your face" when he signed that nominal contract 3-5 days after being released. For that side to win the argument, he needed to make the 53 man roster.

He didn't do that, the red herring is he "retired" - as if he hadn't he certainly would have made the team. His contract was for a vet camp body - expendable but option if he had promise. No Risk for the Colts.

Some folks can't help themselves. They rely can't. At one time, Ryan Leaf signed a contract with the Cowboys. See there, that proves he was not a bust.

 

[Idgit]

...His contract was for a vet camp body - expendable but option if he had promise. No Risk for the Colts.

Colts contract was 2 years and up to $3.5M, for reference. And it's existence at all proved a lot of people wrong about the estimations of his ability to play in this league outside of Dallas.

 

[TheDude]

So you said he as going to get signed to a free agent deal and then retire in the offseason? Can you pull that one up in your history or something? I think I am going call Bullschlitz on that one.

His decision to retire while under contract is not at all what you were suggesting when you said he would be out of the league in a few years. You were just sure he would be but and just disappear. That isn't what happened.

http://espn.go.com/blog/indianapoli...ostas-retirement-puts-colts-in-tough-position

He doesn't get to keep the signing bonus.

Colts contract was 2 years and up to $3.5M, for reference. And it's existence at all proved a lot of people wrong about the estimations of his ability to play in this league outside of Dallas.

It had $450K in guarantees. That was a Brodney Poole contract. Vet body no risk - could be cut anytome
.

 

[jnday]

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Colts contract was 2 years and up to $3.5M, for reference. And it's existence at all proved a lot of people wrong about the estimations of his ability to play in this league outside of Dallas.

He didn't play outside of Dallas to prove anything. Are you saying all players that sign contracts are worthy of those contracts? It proves nothing other than the Colts wanted a cheap look and see.

 

[TheDude]

Well the Colts and Cowboys and scouts disagree. If he had no "ability" the colts wouldn't have signed him to a 2 year deal. Now you are making me defend the guy and I really don't want too. He had to flash something.

Sure they would, just like Brodney Poole here, TO in Seattle, etc., etc. happens all the time. He didn't make it to another team. Maybe his "choice" was because he knew he didn't have the heart or talent - just as plausible that he went out on top of game and left the colts in a learch a mere 40 days after signing that deal

Interesting turn from March 13:
http://www.colts.com/videos/videos/...nterview/644c7e69-f40f-478d-81f3-2b8d266a1fb4

 

[Idgit]

http://espn.go.com/blog/indianapoli...ostas-retirement-puts-colts-in-tough-position

He doesn't get to keep the signing bonus.


It had $450K in guarantees. That was a Brodney Poole contract. Vet body no risk - could be cut anytome
.

Multi year deal, above vet minimum. The threshold for proving some if these posters wrong was not high.

 

[Idgit]

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He didn't play outside of Dallas to prove anything. Are you saying all players that sign contracts are worthy of those contracts? It proves nothing other than the Colts wanted a cheap look and see.

I'm saying another organization offering him more than a flyer contract proved me right and you wrong on this topic.

As did the Dallas extension, earlier, for that matter, but we like to pretend that Dallas doesn't know what it's doing in these parts, and nobody will say the same about the Colts, so the Colts deal makes for a better example in this case.

 

[TheDude]

Multi year deal, above vet minimum. The threshold for proving some if these posters wrong was not high.

The vet minimum for 4-6 years of service is 730K if he makes the opening day roster. He was only getting $450K if cut before week 1. The colts didn't give him some saviour starter contract here.

 

[jobberone]

• The average career length for a player who makes a club’s opening-day roster (active/inactive roster or injured reserve) in his rookie season is 6.0 years.

Link??

 

[visionary]

The vet minimum for 4-6 years of service is 730K if he makes the opening day roster. He was only getting $450K if cut before week 1. The colts didn't give him some saviour starter contract here.

Lol, stop
You putting on a beat down if epic proportions and leaving these guys nowhere to run and hide
Their football ego's cannot take that they were so obviously wrong

 

[Nirvana]

Never got over Brooke.

 

[jobberone]

Of all players taken in the first three rounds less than half become long term starters. So anyone predicting a player taken later than the third not panning out is merely stating the obvious.

No one called Costa more than a marginal starter at best who got forced into the lineup because the OL was in shambles. So Risen Star and others are puffing their chest out over being masters of the obvious. And of course people were pulling for the guy to workout as any fan of the club would.