Video: Phil Simms says there isn't a huge drop-off between Rush and Prescott

[Section446]

There isn't, Dak is just an average QB.

 

[Flamma]

Ha . you are unbelievable.

Hmmmm...gee ....i wonder what it could be????

14 penalties vs raiders- no ceedee or Amari....still almost 400 yards and sent game into OT late. 106 rating. Higher than Carrs btw. You have a strange definition of inept.

Arizona- 10 "Pelaties"- 3Tds 105.8 rating. Higher than Kyler's btw

SF- 14 "Pelaties". Hard to sustain any offense when that happens...as I have gone over ad nauseum....Dak had no help on this day.

Chiefs- Surprisingly only 6 penalties...we got shut down. It happens.

Bucs- 10 penalties. Not a good game for Dak but again ...not much help.

So ya...you really got him...not allowed to have any bad games and good games are discounted....unless you are a long haired young qb...then those are "OMGz"

I don't put all the blame on Dak, but the Cowboys have set a pattern dating back to 2019 of slow starts or no starts in certain games. Even if they make it close in some games, that pattern is still there.

 

[Diehardblues]

TB 3 points (Dallas losing 19-3 to start the 4th quarter)
SF 17 points (Dallas losing 23-7 to start the 4th quarter)
LV 33 points (Dallas losing 27-19 to start the 4th quarter)
ARI 22 points (Dallas losing 22-7 to start the 4th quarter)
KC 9 points (Dallas losing 19-6 to start the 4th quarter)


Dak in those games: 121 of 200 60.5% Comp % 1,205 yards 6 td's 4 int's


The Dak led offense was behind by an average of 13.6 points to start the 4th quarter in those 5 games referenced. This has become a trend with Dak where he does nothing for 3 quarters before starting to rack up stats and make games closer than what they really were/are.

There’s another angle to spin those stats as well.

You could say that despite being dominated and ineffective for 3 quarters against tougher competition and or playoff caliber teams , Dak was able to come back and make a game of it in 4th qtr. Just saying…

 

[TwentyOne]

I think so too. Dak is close to Rush. Wont be a big dropoff when he comes back.

 

[ghst187]

Phil is definitely wrong!
Their salaries are WAY different.

seriously though, judging by the last game…there certainly didn’t look like there was much difference between their play, except Cooper looked more decisive and had more zip on throws…lol

 

[Nexx]

There isn't, Dak is just an average QB.

exactly. Rush is a notch below Dak as a below average QB to Dak's averageness. not a huge difference. but lets be real. everyone would take average over a below average QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't put all the blame on Dak, but the Cowboys have set a pattern dating back to 2019 of slow starts or no starts in certain games. Even if they make it close in some games, that pattern is still there.

Yea, that’s been a stigma for Dak getting off to slow starts especially against stiffer competition. Good news is by the 4th qtr he usually gets going while unfortunately coming up short many times.

It is a 4 quarter game . I suppose he could get off to faster starts and then choke or throw it away in the end like Romo used to. A loss is a loss . A win is a win.

In the end we measure stats per game not by the quarters . And Dak has a knack in most of these slow starts to making a run late in the game to make it more interesting.

 

[Diehardblues]

Phil is definitely wrong!
Their salaries are WAY different.

seriously though, judging by the last game…there certainly didn’t look like there was much difference between their play, except Cooper looked more decisive and had more zip on throws…lol

It’s difficult measuring one game . I think we’ll get a clearer picture over several games coming up.

And if Rush is indeed close to Dak then we are going to have some incredible trade bait coming up in offseason.

Rush is going to have many teams pursuing him. Something they certainly didn’t see in preseason or up until now . We’ll see.

 

[ghst187]

It’s difficult measuring one game . I think we’ll get a clearer picture over several games coming up.

And if Rush is indeed close to Dak then we are going to have some incredible trade bait coming up in offseason.

Rush is going to have many teams pursuing him. Something they certainly didn’t see in preseason or up until now .

i don’t expect that at all…I think Rush looks decent because we are near the Quincy Carter years at QB

 

[Diehardblues]

i don’t expect that at all…I think Rush looks decent because we are near the Quincy Carter years at QB

That’s not how most of the league would evaluate our QB situation. Which is more in the middle to upper half of starting QB’s . The players even rank him top 100 of players in the league.

Most of the criticism I’ve heard discounting all of the accolades is from very frustrated Cowboy fans , much like we had with Romo, and opposing fans simply trolling.

If Dak is no more than Rush then much of the league has overvalued him not just our front office and coaching staff.

Most likely he falls more in the 10th - 15th ranking in the league which is more in the middle where I think most fans are , not where the very vocal extremes claim.

 

[Tabascocat]

I see Phil did a Dallas drive by just to add fuel to the fire

 

[Flamma]

Yea, that’s been a stigma for Dak getting off to slow starts especially against stiffer competition. Good news is by the 4th qtr he usually gets going while unfortunately coming up short many times.

It is a 4 quarter game . I suppose he could get off to faster starts and then choke or throw it away in the end like Romo used to. A loss is a loss . A win is a win.

In the end we measure stats per game not by the quarters . And Dak has a knack in most of these slow starts to making a run late in the game to make it more interesting.

Yep, The Cowboys had a habit of losing it at the end with Romo after a fast start. But can we see that again? Ever? Lets see how this team does in a case like that. Remember, when that used to happen our D was not very good. I don't think this D collapses like that. This team seems to get punched in the mouth early on and has to struggle to recover.

 

[Flamma]

There isn't, Dak is just an average QB.

I think he's just an above average QB. That means when the going gets tough, he needs the support around him. Without it, don't expect much from him.

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

That’s not how most of the league would evaluate our QB situation. Which is more in the middle to upper half of starting QB’s . The players even rank him top 100 of players in the league.

Most of the criticism I’ve heard discounting all of the accolades is from very frustrated Cowboy fans , much like we had with Romo, and opposing fans simply trolling.

If Dak is no more than Rush then much of the league has overvalued him not just our front office and coaching staff.

Most likely he falls more in the 10th - 15th ranking in the league which is more in the middle where I think most fans are , not where the very vocal extremes claim.

I think that is a pretty fair assessment. I'm not a "true believer", but with the QB's now in the league I think he falls somewhere in that area as well.

I would add that the "vocal extremes" go both ways. I think most of your posts on Dak are hard to argue. While I might not agree with all your opinions I do think you are a fair and rational poster. Something that is getting harder to find on here.

 

[scottsp]

Sounds like a CBS guy doing a solid, trying to help sell the contest his network will be airing tomorrow. Essentially, shining a turd.

 

[loublue22]

Cooper Rush couldn't do much worse than Dak last Sunday

 

[75boyz]

I think so too. Dak is close to Rush. Wont be a big dropoff when he comes back.

Yep, I think this is where some real QB evaluation for this FO can/will come into play.

The expectation will be a huge performance drop-off when comparing Rush to Dak.
So if Rush is able to move the offense consistently and gosh forbid even win games then there will be pressure on Dak to meet or exceed the Rush standard when he comes back.

By the same token if Rush is totally overwhelmed and craps the bed performance wise, the pressure again will be on Dak to show why he is such an obvious upgrade.

So either way, when Dak returns, there will be lotsa pressure to perform well.

Can Dak rise above this pressure and prove all his doubters wrong?

Stay tuned.

 

[USArmyVet]

Uhhh, it's not only Dak. It's the whole Offense. Why? BECAUSE OF THE OLINE.

Fix the Oline, and we will see Dak, Zeke and everyone else on Offense play much better.

The 2017 OL was a top rated OL so what is Dak's excuse then for finishing 9-7?

 

[USArmyVet]

There’s another angle to spin those stats as well.

You could say that despite being dominated and ineffective for 3 quarters against tougher competition and or playoff caliber teams , Dak was able to come back and make a game of it in 4th qtr. Just saying…

...or that prevent defenses allowed Dak to rack up the stats and make a game closer.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The 2017 OL was a top rated OL so what is Dak's excuse then for finishing 9-7?

Did you forget when Tyron Smith got injured and Chaz Green had to come in at Left Tackle? Remember the debacle at the Atlanta Falcons? Or did you forget? 9-7 is still a winning season record. It's not like the Cowboys finished 6-10 or worse.