Philly lost their starting RB, LT, and MLB as well

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I havent whined about anything.
Youre the one with your panties in a bunch, for no reason I can understand.
What are doing here anyway?

If you want to say Peters was playing better than Smith this year, that doesnt bother me in the least. Smith certainly wasnt full speed...has been playing injured.
So for that 7 game stretch so far...if you want to give it to him..fine.

Are you going to say you RB was better than Zeke too?
And your LB better than Lee?

Anyway, its all relative to how wellthe replacemwnt plays.

No Zeek is the best RB in football and Lee is better than Hicks. But we lost those two for the entire season. You've lost Smith for 1game and Lee for 3. I don't even see how that's comparable.
 

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That could happen. Dallas is an excellent team when together. But you guys are the ones saying Peters isn't good anymore, Hick is mediocre etc. I know Dallas is totally capable... But you guys are the ones saying we aren't any good. I respect Dallas. Obviously you don't respect Philly. I don't think we are a SB team. We have holes and squeaked out some lucky wins. But the Eagle fans arent disrespecting the Dallas players, its the other way around.


I didn’t say Peters Sucks the dude is a HOFer. Hicks is solid with the system and personnel in Philly otherwise JAG. Us losing Lee would be on par for you losing Cox or Jenkins hell prob both cause our front isn’t as good as yalls
 

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Heres the fundamental problem going on in this debate. The Eagles fans all agree T. Smith, Zeek and Lee are incredible players. But you come on here saying, "Oh, Peters isnt good anymore, maybe 3 years ago" or "Jordan Hicks is just a guy" or "Losing your ST captain doesnt mean anything, who cares", "Darren Sproles isnt worth crap anymore". It seems like the Eagles fans are acknowledging how fantastic the 3 players you lost are... but you're saying, "Oh, all those Eagles guys arent even any good and that silly.
And the next point is losing Peters FOR THE YEAR, losing Hicks FOR THE YEAR, losing Sproles FOR THE YEAR, losing Maragos FOR THE YEAR, losing Darby for 10 GAMES is a hell of a lot different than losing Smith for a game and Lee for 2 or 3 games. Major freaking difference in objective peoples books.
Never said Peters isn't good anymore and hasn't for 3 years, never said losing your ST Captain doesn't mean anything, who cares. Also didn't say Sproles isn't worth crap anymore.

I get it your an Eagles fan and have a hard time in reading comprehension. I also understand, you being an Eagles fan, haven't had success in how many years now so all this is new to you.

Midseason awards don't mean jack. Typically they pick more players from the teams with the best record as best individual players. In reality there are players that are better but are looked over because of their teams lack of success.

Sproles isn't close to Zeke, period. You look foolish just got saying it.

Bailey is the most accurate kicker in nfl history..... More valuable then your special teams captain.

I never down played the loss of Peters, he plays the most important position behind QB. What I said was he isn't as good as Smith but you could compare when he was in his prime..... Which he isn't anymore.

You keep saying Darby but he has had no impact on your team yet as he was injured very early. Can't miss what you didn't have. When he comes back of course he will help.

Hicks isn't on Lee's level period. Especially not mentally.

But again I get it Eagles have done nothing for so long you silly eagle fans don't know how to act sitting at 8-1. In your minds all your players are the best b and all pro. Continue living in your fantasy world can't wait to you get this foot knee deep Sunday
 

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I didn’t say Peters Sucks the dude is a HOFer. Hicks is solid with the system and personnel in Philly otherwise JAG. Us losing Lee would be on par for you losing Cox or Jenkins hell prob both cause our front isn’t as good as yalls
Our front has more sacks then Philly...... Just saying
 

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No Zeek is the best RB in football and Lee is better than Hicks. But we lost those two for the entire season. You've lost Smith for 1game and Lee for 3. I don't even see how that's comparable.
How many games has Peters and Hicks missed so far this season?
 

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Our front has more sacks then Philly...... Just saying


It does but Timmy and Cox in the middle with Graham and curry on the edges is nasty. They may not have the sacks but they have constant pressure with excellent run stoppers
 

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It does but Timmy and Cox in the middle with Graham and curry on the edges is nasty. They may not have the sacks but they have constant pressure with excellent run stoppers
All 4 of their guys are developed besides Barnett. Our guys are producing better but can still get better.

Now don't get me wrong they have a very good DL. Just not sure it's better then Dallas like some say. It's close. Now run stopping i would give it to Philly even with Lee
 

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Cox and Jernigan clog up the middle and are athletic. If we had a true space eater at 1 the dline could be solid.
 

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Well to Garretts credit....they didn't believe in investing first rounders into linemen.

If you want to give JG the credit for the offensive draft picks, then you also have to blame him for all the bad defensive picks.
It's a myth that the overall team talent is better with JG as the HC. Go back and compare the defensive players he inherited and the defensive players he drafted.

It's laughable how bad he did on the defensive side. He can't win a game without Lee. A player he inherited from Wade's era.
 

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WOW just wow. You need to check your facts. Who's the "aging quarterback" Typo? This doesn't really deserve a response as many of your counterparts will tell you the deal. But just to reiterate. Lost for the season: Best Olineman and LT, best LB and MLB (the QB of the defense) best RB AND one of the best punt returners in the league. These were all heart and soul guys too.
Also lost our best CB at a time when out defensive backfield was a big question mark. Rasul Douglas and Patrick Robinson have stepped up big time. We get Darby back for the Cowboys.
Also,lost our kicker and plucked Elliot of of the Bengals PS.

Zeke is not Sproles but we actually miss his punt returning more so it's like losing 2 players, but all the others a VERY comparable. And we lost them for the WHOLE YEAR not just a game or 2.

Times your.
Kick rocks and go back to your own message boards. I said what I said and you can kiss my ***
 

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Never said Peters isn't good anymore and hasn't for 3 years, never said losing your ST Captain doesn't mean anything, who cares. Also didn't say Sproles isn't worth crap anymore.

I get it your an Eagles fan and have a hard time in reading comprehension. I also understand, you being an Eagles fan, haven't had success in how many years now so all this is new to you.

Midseason awards don't mean jack. Typically they pick more players from the teams with the best record as best individual players. In reality there are players that are better but are looked over because of their teams lack of success.

Sproles isn't close to Zeke, period. You look foolish just got saying it.

Bailey is the most accurate kicker in nfl history..... More valuable then your special teams captain.

I never down played the loss of Peters, he plays the most important position behind QB. What I said was he isn't as good as Smith but you could compare when he was in his prime..... Which he isn't anymore.

You keep saying Darby but he has had no impact on your team yet as he was injured very early. Can't miss what you didn't have. When he comes back of course he will help.

Hicks isn't on Lee's level period. Especially not mentally.

But again I get it Eagles have done nothing for so long you silly eagle fans don't know how to act sitting at 8-1. In your minds all your players are the best b and all pro. Continue living in your fantasy world can't wait to you get this foot knee deep Sunday

I think it's your reading comprehension that's lacking Skippy. NO ONE said Sproles was as good as Zeke.

We lost our special teams captain AND our kicker

It's debatable whether Peter's is as good as Smith. Point is he is the most important player on our line and he's gone for the year

Darby was/is our best CB. Our defensive backfield was a huge question mark. Patrick Robinson was putrid in the preseason. Rasul Douglas is a rookie. He was signed to sure that up and very quickly showed on the few plays he did get in on that he is an excellent CB. Needless to say it could have been a devastating loss if not for the play of Robinson and Douglas.

Hick being on the same level as Lee is debatable too. He's a VERY smart MLB so not quite understanding the mental comparison. Where they are on the same level is their propensity to be injured.

I think the point that Eagles fans are trying to make is that we have had some VERY significant injuries too and at the same positions the Cowboys have had, so comparisons are being made on that level not the player's individual skill levels which by the way are also comparable so stop with the nonsense.

Lastly, the comment that the Eagles have "done nothing for so long' is absurd. The cowboys have 2 playoff wins in 20 years. Que SB wins statement from cowboys fans.

Times yours.
 

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Kick rocks and go back to your own message boards. I said what I said and you can kiss my ***

No. And what you said is stupid, so I'll kick the rocks bouncing around in your head.
 
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No. And what you said is stupid, so I'll kick the rocks bouncing around in your head.
Sproles can’t hold Zeke’s jockstrap, Lee is life times better than Hicks when healthy and Tyron is the best offensive lineman in the league and has been for quite some time. Your argument is irrelevant just like the OP’s
 

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for the season. Just thought I would remind everyone about that. Yet we fall apart when we lose just one. It's really amazing.

The Philadelphia Eagles, Doug Pederson, and Carson Wentz are all broken men who know their annual collapse is imminent.
 

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Holy crap what is being argued here? Whose injuries are the worst?

Unbelievable.
 

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Sproles can’t hold Zeke’s jockstrap, Lee is life times better than Hicks when healthy and Tyron is the best offensive lineman in the league and has been for quite some time. Your argument is irrelevant just like the OP’s

Tyron is not the best. I've seen him give up sacks.
 

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Depth.

Keep in mind, they acquired Darby, Jernigan, Jeffrey, Smith, Ajayi, Blount, Warmack

While we watched Carr, Claiborne, Church, and McClain leave and signed - get this - Nolan Carroll, Cedric Thornton, Stephen Paea, and Robert Blanton.

Maybe that's a good part of why the Eagles have passed us by like we were standing still?
 

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Garrett is a good coach. And he's turned this roster into a top heavy and underperforming roster to a top heavy roster that performs and has developing youth.

People keep pointing to the overnight success stories in the NFL to discredit Garrett.... But tell me which and how many teams have won the superbowl over his tenure? How many were rags to riches in a way that's comparable to some of the praise being heaped on rams and eagles coaching staffs?

Sure they do. Because it's true.

But tell me, how is it required of the Rams or Eagles staffs to "win a Super Bowl", when the guy you're trying and failing to defend has never come even close to that same standard? Or did you not realize the double standard when you typed it?

It's hard as hell to win in the NFL when you get into a one and done situation. Even if you're really good.

This is gold, the mantra of the loser. "Oh, winning is hard...." That's pathetic.

And the criticisms don't past muster. Oh our offenses suck and aren't original! Then we finish with another top 5 performance. Oh we abandon the run! Zeke or some other RB finishes with 20+ carries. Oh we suck at game management! Last year we won most of our one score games.

Just reactionary nonsense.

The "nonsense" is not realizing the awful truth after 8 years of proof.
 
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