Pittdawg - any news for us?

The Realist

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gimmesix said:
pittdawg said:
one funny thing, i have read where some feel rob is the most tradeable of the tackles and might even fetch as high as a third round pick, but in the next sentence remind everyone he has very little ability and are scared to death if he were the starter at either side. oh well, the plight of some dallas fans.
What's funny to me is that Parcells has already given us a pretty good idea of what he's going to do.

From what I read below, Colombo is the starter, Petitti is the swing tackle, and Fabini is the fifth tackle he's considering keeping. (We already know McQuistan is in because Parcells said so.)

From his Monday news conference:

Where is Pettiti?
He's a swing. That's not a bad thing.


Is Fabini an odd man out?
No, I might keep all of them.

Key point......."A swing" not THE swing.

BP is very calculated with his words.

This year's motto:

Who's all in?
 

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Like it has been said, Fabini is not all that good at LT. He is a better RT. As his years with the Jets proved. Rob has improved at RT and seems to have looked pretty decent at LT when he played there this year- though of course that is pre season. BP would not have id'd him as the swing tackle if he had not SHOWN BP that he can PLAY LT.
 

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jterrell said:
I hope you are both blessed beyond words!
If Rob was my son I would be banned by now.

You are truly a class act.

I have a hard time seeing us release Rob. That would be a complete waste of a draft pick and years development.

Andre Gurode looked completely lost for a few years and now looks fairly dominant. OL are not running backs that either show up as superstars or can't play. OL develop over time.
Bingo!!

It appears that some here haven't learned anything about the maturation process that most interior players go through.
 

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Ok, let's ask this simply question.

If we had Fabini last year at LT would he have done better than Torrin Tucker?

Of course he would have.

That's at least an upgrade.

That said, I'd love to see Rob and McQ push his butt off the roster.
 

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burmafrd said:
Like it has been said, Fabini is not all that good at LT. He is a better RT. As his years with the Jets proved. Rob has improved at RT and seems to have looked pretty decent at LT when he played there this year- though of course that is pre season. BP would not have id'd him as the swing tackle if he had not SHOWN BP that he can PLAY LT.

Fabini was never any good at LT with the Jets but they chose to start him 100 times +?

Got it.

Rob has improved at RT but he's 3rd on the depth chart there and not in contention?

Got it.

BP wouldn't play Rob at LT unless he had SHOWN BP that he can play LT?

Does the name Torrin Tucker mean anything to you?
 

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pittdawg said:
not an expert on the jets, but i don't believe he had a knee injury. i beleive he played poorly on the left side and was moved to rt before he sustained a pectorial injury which ended his season.
Jason had on and off knee issues, and the move to RT last year was pretty much because he no longer had the lateral movement or overall agility you'd expect in a starting LT. He never was a great 'range' player, but he had lost quite a bit. Then he suffered the "big one" - the pectoral.

Plus Herm was anxious to see how Jones would do at LT...and the answer was this year the new regime drafted Ferguson.

The Jets were simply plagued by the same kind of one after another debacles that we saw here...both trusted vets (Mawae and Fabini both injured and falling off due to age), and then we know how it goes..plugging in one guy here, one there, everyone trying to help his buddy but no one doing his own job. Pete Kendall, a decent guard but a sad center, was sent in to replace Mawae for awhile, it was a mess.

Btw Jones is back at RT now. The Jets drafted Ferguson with the 4th pick overall and Nick Mangold, to replace Mawae with the 29th overall. If anyone is familiar with the NFL stat 'adjusted sack rate' and understand what it means - last year the Jets were ranked either 29th or 30th, I forget which, but it was one of them.. Poor Pennington, Fielder, Bollinger.

I used to be known as the resident Jets expert here, but no one asks me about them anymore. I guess that's a GOOD thing, lol.

But I can tell you in all honesty, I was happy to see JF signed as 'security', but Rob represents better value - youth, upside, health and future-wise.

I hope Bill can manage to keep both as he has expressed the desire to do so, but I have little doubt your boy ain't goin anywhere that's out of Dallas.
 

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In the past teams take an older LT and move him to RT for the last few years of his productive career. WHile he was never a top LT, he was good. But as early as 2004 there was talk of moving him to RT. I really doubt that he can last a full season now at tackle; but as a backup and part timer I think he can still be good.
 

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I don't think it makes sense that McQuistan is getting all the LT reps if Petitti is going to be the one filling in for Flozell if he goes out.

Personally I'd really like to see Petitti get to start or at least get more playing time to see how he develops and to see the improvements he's already made. I honestly don't have any problem with Petitti playing either tackle position, as long as it's not Torrin Tucker on the other side.
 

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Pittdawg... hope you can make it to the road games again this year! If so, I'll be glad to host you at my annual Fed Ex Field Tailgate!

Best of luck to Rob and the rest of your family as well.

Despite the criticism that he and all players receive at one time or another, it must be fun to see that he has quickly become one of the most popular young players on the team... at least around these parts!

Cheers! :beer2:
 

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Hey Pittdawg
I'm still pulling for your son. How does he feel playing LT as opposed to RT? Does he feel like one is his more natural position?
 

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WV Cowboy said:
Those wings on TG give me the creeps. :D


Sorry, WV. Would you prefer I switch to this one?:D

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pittdawg said:
i haven't left, nor am i disgusted. rob is on an emotional roller coaster right now and unfortunately i'm seated next to him. he feels he had a great camp, but doesn't know how everything will shake out. he and columbo have become good friends, except when the yanks play boston, and is pulling for him to win the RT spot if it's not himself.

one funny thing, i have read where some feel rob is the most tradeable of the tackles and might even fetch as high as a third round pick, but in the next sentence remind everyone he has very little ability and are scared to death if he were the starter at either side. oh well, the plight of some dallas fans.

btw, if any of you fans live up north you might know about fabini's exploits at left tackle for the jets last year. if not, go to a jet fan page and ask, you might not be that happy.
I would be pissed if Rob was traded for a 3rd round pick. We are already thin on the OL, and Rob certainly has a future with this team at tackle.
 

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dmq said:
Hey Pittdawg
I'm still pulling for your son. How does he feel playing LT as opposed to RT? Does he feel like one is his more natural position?

definately more comfortable at lt. don't forget he started and played in 49 games at lt while at pittsburgh against some tough competition.
 

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Pittdawg....Rob isn't going anywhere. He will either start or be the swing man on the OL.

Parcells has said he would not let Rob fail......and he will not. Rob will be fine.

Tell Rob to get out there and kick butt and you Sir thank you for being the class act you are.
 

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pittdawg said:
i haven't left, nor am i disgusted. rob is on an emotional roller coaster right now and unfortunately i'm seated next to him. he feels he had a great camp, but doesn't know how everything will shake out. he and columbo have become good friends, except when the yanks play boston, and is pulling for him to win the RT spot if it's not himself.

one funny thing, i have read where some feel rob is the most tradeable of the tackles and might even fetch as high as a third round pick, but in the next sentence remind everyone he has very little ability and are scared to death if he were the starter at either side. oh well, the plight of some dallas fans.

btw, if any of you fans live up north you might know about fabini's exploits at left tackle for the jets last year. if not, go to a jet fan page and ask, you might not be that happy.

Tell Rob to hang tough....he is very important to our success!
 

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pittdawg said:
definately more comfortable at lt. don't forget he started and played in 49 games at lt while at pittsburgh against some tough competition.

I must admit to being surprised BP has given all the "starter" reps at LT to McQ. In a way it makes no sense- if Rob is the swing guy and McQ has had no reps at RT so therefore won't dress on gameday, why wouldn't you want Rob as prepared as possible to play? BP seems to have fallen head over heels for McQ and maybe with good reason but the guy is still as green as grass. Rob has not only had far more college experience he's got a year pro starting experience. I don't know if I can take another on the job training course with real bullets flying like last year with Tucker playing LT for the 1st time. It's confusing.
 

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DLCassidy said:
I must admit to being surprised BP has given all the "starter" reps at LT to McQ. In a way it makes no sense- if Rob is the swing guy and McQ has had no reps at RT so therefore won't dress on gameday, why wouldn't you want Rob as prepared as possible to play? BP seems to have fallen head over heels for McQ and maybe with good reason but the guy is still as green as grass. Rob has not only had far more college experience he's got a year pro starting experience. I don't know if I can take another on the job training course with real bullets flying like last year with Tucker playing LT for the 1st time. It's confusing.

It's really quite simple.

Julius Jones vs Eddie George/A-Train.
 
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