Players Dallas has shown interest in

[Chuck 54]

Dallas better be interested in every DT, LB, DB, and speed on offense

 

[Floatyworm]

They are heavily scouting the DEs in this draft, and mostly those who are likely to be selected in the first three rounds. Sounds like they are not sold on everything.

Plus they are likely losing Hardy and Mincey, so there's that too.

Can you imagine......

LDE- D.Law/Ryan Russell

RDE-Gregory/Oakman

Might be the skinniest defensive end group in league history.

 

[mattjames2010]

Can you imagine......

LDE- D.Law/Ryan Russell

RDE-Gregory/Oakman

Might be the skinniest defensive end group in league history.

D. Law is hardly skinny anymore.

 

[RS12]

• Vernon Adams, QB, Oregon (EW)
• Willie Beavers, OT, Western Michigan (SR)
• James Bradberry, CB, Samford (SR)
• Jacoby Brissett, QB, NC State (SR)
• D.J. Foster, WR/RB, Arizona State (SR)
• Tyrone Holmes, DE, Montana (EW)
• Bronson Kaufusi, DE/3-4DE, Brigham Young (SR)
• Miles Killebrew, S, Southern Utah (SR)
• Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State (SR)
• Romeo Okwara, DE, Notre Dame (EW)
• Darian Thompson, S, Boise State (SR)

 

[Risen Star]

Don't tease me with Darian Thompson, RS12. An actual rangy FS to roam the middle of the field.

The Cowboys will have a great defense once again as soon as Boise St. can provide us with enough quality players.

 

[Floatyworm]

Don't tease me with Darian Thompson, RS12. An actual rangy FS to roam the middle of the field.

The Cowboys will have a great defense once again as soon as Boise St. can provide us with enough quality players.

Well....If It was me...I'd be adding

Billy Winn DT
George Iloka SS
Kyle Wilson CB in free agency...so that's a start.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If we Draft Darian Thompson I take it that means Byron Jones is going to be a CB....because I don't see us drafting a FS if they like Jones at FS.

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[Alexander]

If we Draft Darian Thompson I take it that means Byron Jones is going to be a CB....because I don't see us drafting a FS if they like Jones at FS.

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That is where I do not get the idea that we should absolutely draft Ramsey. So he is going to be forced in at CB and leave Jones at FS?

I keep seeing how Ramsey would give Dallas two "interchangeable" players who could do either. How on earth is that supposed to work?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That is where I do not get the idea that we should absolutely draft Ramsey. So he is going to be forced in at CB and leave Jones at FS?

I keep seeing how Ramsey would give Dallas two "interchangeable" players who could do either. How on earth is that supposed to work?

I don't know...
Guess it gives them the option to have Ramsey at FS and Jones at CB....Or Ramsey at CB and Jones at FS...or both at CB.

Really not sure.

All I know is I don't like the idea of drafting a DB @4 if he does not have a history of making turnovers because chances are he is not going to learn to get INTs here.

I do think we need to get some DBs in this draft...if not it means we are keeping Carr and/or Mo.

Just not sure that Ramsey is the guy I want...might be the guy that they want though.

Kind of preparing myself for the idea that they could take Ramsey or Bosa and hope that they take someone else instead.

 

[Alexander]

I don't know...
Guess it gives them the option to have Ramsey at FS and Jones at CB....Or Ramsey at CB and Jones at FS...or both at QB.

Really not sure.

And that is not a good place to be in, IMO.

I would hope if you are spending that high of a choice, you have a real plan. I bet if he is the choice, you will see the same kind of shoulder shrugging you just did.

It took a good bit of trial and error with Jones this past season alone.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

And that is not a good place to be in, IMO.

I would hope if you are spending that high of a choice, you have a real plan. I bet if he is the choice, you will see the same kind of shoulder shrugging you just did.

It took a good bit of trial and error with Jones this past season alone.

Oh I am sure they have a plan in mind.

I know we like to be all...they suck they don't know they are doing because it makes us feel like we know better or that we are James Dean or some type of silliness.

However I am sure they have an idea of what they would like to happen out of the player. The problem is if the plans they have in place pan out or not. Not that there is no plan in place.

My guess with Jones was they wanted him to play at FS but due to issues with Oscan other injuries they moved him where they needed him. Now we might complain about this or that and play him at one position but this
is exactly the kind of GOOD thing you have with that type of player and his position flex. When needed, he can play in a different role. I think it was impressive how he took on the roles and did them in a way that seemed comfortable with him.
Now he was not a turn over machine by any means (again the problem with this team and it's DB's) but I think he did a darn good job by playing multiple roles when needed.

It is a good thing...not a bad thing as some may view it.


One could argue, and keep in mind I am not in the hey I want Ramsey at 4 camp, that Jones ability to play in different roles and it not seeming to be too big for him would give them the idea that it worked out with Jones so why can't it work with Ramsey who they could argue is rated higher than Jones.

Again...does not mean it is who I want. However it does not also mean that they don't have a plan for him and Jones even if we don't see it or agree with it.

I would think some of this will have better clarity before the draft due to FA.

 

[Risen Star]

Yeah, how could you possibly not believe the Cowboys have a plan in place?

I don't see the issue of using that 2nd round pick on Thompson should he be there. (He won't be) Jones has flexicality and the opportunity to add a safety with range is too valuable to pass on for me. Whether that means Jones pairs up with him on the backend or he plays corner, I don't know. It would be a get your best players on the field sort of thing. I'd let that sort itself out in camp.

 

[Alexander]

My guess with Jones was they wanted him to play at FS but due to issues with Oscan other injuries they moved him where they needed him. Now we might complain about this or that and play him at one position but this
is exactly the kind of GOOD thing you have with that type of player and his position flex. When needed, he can play in a different role. I think it was impressive how he took on the roles and did them in a way that seemed comfortable with him.

In early May, I know they were talking about how his versatility gave them the "best of both worlds" (ala how the Patriots handled McCourty) and how he could start out at CB and then potentially move to FS once they knew how it was all going to come together, especially with Claiborne's health. Then the Scandrick injury forced the issue. That is a pretty vague plan in my book.

One could argue, and keep in mind I am not in the hey I want Ramsey at 4 camp, that Jones ability to play in different roles and it not seeming to be too big for him would give them the idea that it worked out with Jones so why can't it work with Ramsey who they could argue is rated higher than Jones.

I just feel a definite role should be designated with the 4th choice in the draft so all the rest of what you need and want to do can solidify. All in all, not a fan of projections and ambiguity.

I would much rather say, this is my player, he is the best player at that stage of the draft available for what we are going to ask him to do, this is our plan and this is what we want him to do.

Even a backup QB at that stage would have a defined role and a plan in place.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

In early May, I know they were talking about how his versatility gave them the "best of both worlds" (ala how the Patriots handled McCourty) and how he could start out at CB and then potentially move to FS once they knew how it was all going to come together, especially with Claiborne's health. Then the Scandrick injury forced the issue. That is a pretty vague plan in my book.



I just feel a definite role should be designated with the 4th choice in the draft so all the rest of what you need and want to do can solidify. All in all, not a fan of projections and ambiguity.

I would much rather say, this is my player, he is the best player at that stage of the draft available for what we are going to ask him to do, this is our plan and this is what we want him to do.

Even a backup QB at that stage would have a defined role and a plan in place.

You are under the assumption they don't have a plan. That is your assumption. That does not make it true.

This is just how we are talking right now and how the draftniks are talking right now when it comes to Ramsey.

That does not mean the cowboys don't view him as a CB or a FS if they draft him.

I know that might not fit into common opinion on this board but we just don't know what their plans our with him and just because we don't know, it does not mean they don't.

 

[Alexander]

You are under the assumption they don't have a plan. That is your assumption. That does not make it true.

I can only go off precedent. In a similar set of circumstances, they had a very vague plan for Jones, if you could even call it that.

Your stance they have a plan is just as much of an assumption.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I can only go off precedent. In a similar set of circumstances, they had a very vague plan for Jones, if you could even call it that.

Your stance they have a plan is just as much of an assumption.

I am pretty sure every team has a plan for it's first round pick...not much of an assumption. It's more of an assumption to believe they don't...but that is your opinion vs mine even if common sense, in this case, is on my side.

 

[Risen Star]

I can only go off precedent. In a similar set of circumstances, they had a very vague plan for Jones, if you could even call it that.

Your stance they have a plan is just as much of an assumption.

I think that plan changes year to year. Which is essentially like having no plan.

 

[Alexander]

I think that plan changes year to year. Which is essentially like having no plan.

Seat of your pants plan is basically no plan.

It is based on contingencies.

 

[Doc50]

Seat of your pants plan is basically no plan.

It is based on contingencies.

If they can develop some expertise at plan modification due to contingencies, I'd like to see that applied to our in-game offensive strategy and tactics.

 

[BAT]

I think that plan changes year to year. Which is essentially like having no plan.

Plan or not, plan changes on the fly or not, Jerry and his team have proven that their plan, or lack of one, does not work. 6 years and counting, .500 record and only one playoff season. Time for a new plan or new planners.