Playoff Wins Last 15 years, Cowboys 1, Texans 1

[The Emperor]

how can he find time to donate to charities when he's yelling at his romo jersey all night?

I'd say it's funny, but it's actually tragic that a grown, voting adult like you in your mid-twenties lacks the cognitive ability to understand that the Boston Tea Party and a bunch of people disgruntled over the outcome of a sport is not the same thing.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Of course not. We rested on whatever success we felt we achieved in 2009. That is the biggest problem with this franchise right now. Success is evaluated basically like you do with your particular viewpoint as a fan. Our braintrust thinks just like you, which should scare you a bit.

Just happy to be part of the games. It's about the ride, dude. Not the end product. You don't understand football enough and it's sad. I wish some of you realists would learn to enjoy each play and the fight. It's why I can happily wear my Troy Hambrick jersey still. You're watching the games, when in actuality you need to start watching the games!

It's a beautiful sport for those who understand it. Lemme give you a hint...it's not about playoffs or Super Bowls. Not in Dallas. Been there, done that, friend. It's about the memories on the way to early draft preparation here.

 

[The Emperor]

Wasn't the victory against the Bears in 1991 not just like what you just finished disparaging the Texans about? That was not a great team. It was a declining team.

If the Texans had beaten the Steelers -- let's say -- it would have only taken away one of the four facts I listed. But let's leave them out of it and stick to the Cowboys. I think we've got a good discussion going there.

Yes, I was extremely happy about that win. We had an incredibly young team with big holes. But I wanted more. Apparently the organization did too as the very next season, you see, we went out and acquired Charles Haley. We drafted Kevin Smith in the first round. Game on.

Tell me, are we going to do something like that this year?

Of course not. We rested on whatever success we felt we achieved in 2009. That is the biggest problem with this franchise right now. Success is evaluated basically like you do with your particular viewpoint as a fan. Our braintrust thinks just like you, which should scare you a bit.

I just wrote to you in previous posts in this thread that the playoff win should have been a stepping stone and that we regressed. I wasn't satisfied with that lone win. I do want more, like you. What is it so hard for you to accept that someone can laud the team and still want more?

And I wish the Cowboys brain trust did think like me. Our offensive line and secondary would have been a lot better this year.

I can go ahead and already tell you what lies ahead, but I'd hate for you to have to correct me on how bad of a fan I am.

What's wrong with you? I already stated that's not what I said, even though that's what you wanted to read. Say it. I don't care. You're probably wrong. I remember some people freaking out because the Eagles got Michael Vick. And here they are three seasons later with nothing to show. What do you see?

 

[Alexander]

Just happy to be part of the games. It's about the ride, dude. Not the end product. You don't understand football enough and it's sad. I wish some of you realists would learn to enjoy each play and the fight. It's why I can happily wear my Troy Hambrick jersey still. You're watching the games, when in actuality you need to start watching the games!

It's a beautiful sport for those who understand it. Lemme give you a hint...it's not about playoffs or Super Bowls. Not in Dallas. Been there, done that, friend. It's about the memories on the way to early draft preparation here.

:laugh2:

 

[Alexander]

I just wrote to you in previous posts in this thread that the playoff win should have been a stepping stone and that we regressed. I wasn't satisfied with that lone win. I do want more, like you.

But you are quick to jump in a thread like this and condemn people for actually being envious of a team that is doing exactly what we need to do. Strange. But yes, you are not satisfied. In fact, gosh darn it, you might be moderately preturbed with the direction of the franchise.

What is it so hard for you to accept that someone can laud the team and still want more?

Because the lauding is for mediocrity. Laud more than one playoff victory. That was like a player spiking a football in a 30 point loss. Act like you have been there before and expect to be there again.

That is not what people like Landry and Johnson did.

Lauding a playoff victory like that is for losers like Dave Campo and Wade Phillips.

As for you being like the braintrust, it is true. There is a sense of satisfaction in some of the strangest things and even baby steps are viewed like strides.

Right now, Jerry Jones says we have a very very good team. He is satisfied in an offensive line that nearly got his QB killed. He has a QB who probably played his best year with yet another albatross around his neck because he failed to properly protect him.

 

[The Emperor]

Because the lauding is for mediocrity. Laud more than one playoff victory. That was like a player spiking a football in a 30 point loss. Act like you have been there before and expect to be there again.

No, it's not. Don't be ridiculous. Celebrating an 8-8 finish would be more apt to your comparison.

That is not what people like Landry and Johnson did.

Lauding a playoff victory like that is for losers like Dave Campo and Wade Phillips.

But it's a step in the right direction. It's a milestone. The problem is we pitched our tent there as the rest of the race went by. It was a good win. It was an accomplishment. But we're stuck on it, as you pointed out and I agree with.

As for you being like the braintrust, it is true. There is a sense of satisfaction in some of the strangest things and even baby steps are viewed like strides.

It's not satisfying if you don't improve upon it though. We've regressed since then. As you and I have agreed, we've got to get back to that level. So, I think you'd like to pin some people as being like the Cowboys brain trust so you can feel like you're personally arguing with Jerry Jones, but you're not going to get it from me. Next case.

Right now, Jerry Jones says we have a very very good team.

And I've said that?

He is satisfied in an offensive line that nearly got his QB killed.

And I am? Wait. Name any of the so-called homers who are satisfied with our offensive line.

He has a QB who probably played his best year with yet another albatross around his neck because he failed to properly protect him.

Right. So let's improve upon it and go forward. It's part of the process. Hahahaha.

 

[SanAngelo]

Get out here, troll.

I'm not a troll. I haven't ever posted much, but have been reading these forums for years. I'm a cowboys fan who is disappointed by the direction of the club. Yes, the cowboys did great in the early part of Jerry's ownership, but there is a point after that where things became worse. There have been a few bright spots in the years since then, but taken altogether the last 15 years have been a bust. On paper the team is all world and gonna beat everybody, but week to week we never seem to get the same team. Something is wrong in the organization. I'm tired of seeing Jerry out there promoting the cowboy business deal of the week, instead of making a real effort to fix what is wrong that is keeping the cowboys from being consistently competitive. It just makes me sad to see my favorite team in this condition. I hope it gets better, but only time will tell.

 

[UVAwahoos]

I'm not a troll.

There's a large group of posters who think it's against the law to speak poorly about the Cowboys, no matter how bad they do each season.

 

[Venger]

See how expectations can affect outcome?

Smartest post of the day.

 

[bbgun]

There's a large group of posters who think it's against the law to speak poorly about the Cowboys, no matter how bad they do each season.

It's the CZ version of "waving the flag." I've lost count of how many times I've been accused of being a "fake" fan who "enjoys being miserable" (yeah, right). It seems that everyone's to blame except the people who are actually at fault (Jerry).

 

[Alexander]

It seems that everyone's to blame except the people who are actually at fault (Jerry).

Constants are irrelevant.

In fact, so are general managers.

The new zeitgeist is to just blame the players.

We need better talent.

Yes, that is true. But who constructed the current roster of players?

 

[redfog]

your thread completes my day

 

[TheCoolFan]

We'll win it all before 2050. Book it!

 

[cowboys102030]

I have never felt so low as a Cowboys fan and it's downright shameful. But there is some silver lining to it... Actually there is none. LOL at being a Cowboys fan the past 15 years and counting.

 

[Ratmatt]

The Cowboys didn't give up last year. Didn't they go 5-3 down the stretch?

I think two things go overlooked in the comparison:

1. Kubiak has been the Texans coach since 2006. And this is his first playoff game. And let's be honest, Houston is in the playoffs because Peyton Manning didn't play this year. Does anyone think the Colts wouldn't have taken that division had Peyton remained healthy?

2. Wade Phillips never should have been a head coach. But few doubt his abilities as a defensive coordinator. Blame Jerry for that hire.

I blame Jerry for everything.

 

[Ratmatt]

1.Jerry Jones is a poor drafter.That is just a fact.No one can win a argument against that.I guess we're supposed to just hope or pray after all this time he starts getting it right.I'll pray,but after all this time its hard to hold out much hope.
2.The other problem is Jerry Jones is in denial about his team.He thought this team was a super bowl caliber team.He thinks with Romo on the team they should be a super bowl contender.Anytime a person is in denial about anything,it's almost impossible to get anything fixed.I'm a long time diehard cowboy fan so I'll keep hoping.

 

[zeroburrito]

we've still had more success unless they win next week. all is not lost.

 

[Reality]

It is not just about passion. They have better talent across the board save a couple of positions. Think of your top five best Cowboys and that is where we are superior. After that, not so much.

I think that is a very insightful and accurate description of the thinking process we fall trap to many times when defining our expectations. We think of players like Romo, Ware, Witten, Bryant, Austin, Smith, and Ratliff and think we have a great team, but when you compare the entire team to other teams, the weaknesses start to show.

It's just like in baseball where a team has two great hitters but several below average hitters for the rest of team or a team that has the league leading ERA pitcher only to have three 5.00+ ERA pitchers in the rotation.

#reality

 

[MissionCoach]

seriously i don't understand why some posters are trying to find something negative to say about them.

they are young, hungry, physical, playmakers...etc..they are here to stay. deal with it jerry. deal with it fans.

young, hungry, physical, playmakers...sadly something we don't have enough of in Dallas.

 

[Ring Leader]

your thread completes my day

My day will be complete when your 9ers lose to the Saints next week.