Please stop asking for the ball first if you win the coin flip

[Big_D]

Yep I believe you are right on this one shouldn't really matter it's just a strategy but it couldn't hurt to try changing strategies this coach has a hard time doing that obviously cannot make in-game adjustments or halftime adjustments of course that's because halftime is filled with going to the bathroom and other necessities other than winning the football game

it's more than just a strategy. it's managing a football game according to your opponents strengths and weaknesses.

 

[DogFace]

Scoring first has the same effect, get a lead you hold the lead, you make the team play from behind. They score first, now you're playing from behind.

There's no advantage either way...lol

What about when you’re on the road and the crowd hasn’t returned from their halftime breaks/and isn’t quite as excited as the beginning of the game?

...LTMS

 

[DogFace]

No you don't, Belicheck has The best qb in the game, it doesn't matter if he gets the ball first or not. Stop feeding these bs narratives....lol

Wait—in the very next post you say it doesn’t matter if you get the ball first or not.

In this post you say it doesn’t matter if you have Brady.

LTMS


Come on Dre, we ALL need to be focused today!!!

 

[JayFord]

I dont trust this defense any farther than i can throw a mastadon.....eventually they will go right back to giving up 4 touchdowns and 400 yards

 

[Nightman]

No you don't, Belicheck has The best qb in the game, it doesn't matter if he gets the ball first or not. Stop feeding these bs narratives....lol

He said it himself big chief

 

[Nightman]

If this is an issue for a team, then that team is not very good.

I thought you wanted to post more analytics..... this is that

Using all the info available to get an edge

 

[Direwolf63]

There isn't an advantage to be gained, either way, really.

Tony Romo disagrees.

He has mentioned more than once that on the road, he wanted the ball in the second half because most fans are away from the stands and it's much quieter and easier to run the offense.

Of course, this logic goes completely over Garretts head.

 

[Nightman]

We don’t know if there’s a 1% advantage though. And if they score TDs on possessions 1 and 4, and you score em on 2 and 3, you’re still tied. Stacking didn’t help. The concurrence has to make scoring easier somehow, and I don’t see how it does.

You are not even trying

Of course it matters if you can get an extra possesion or have the wind and/or sun in the 4th quarter

But JG doesn't believe in the sun either even though JJones laid out the field to make it a factor like a moron

 

[Idgit]

Tony Romo disagrees.

He has mentioned more than once that on the road, he wanted the ball in the second half because most fans are away from the stands and it's much quieter and easier to run the offense.

Of course, this logic goes completely over Garretts head.

I think that’s actually a comment from Garrett. When he was asked about it, he’s said that a lot of people have differing opinions on the topic, that statistically it doesn’t seem to matter much either way, and that the one thing he’d heard that makes some sense was the ‘road fans not back in their seats to start the second half’ argument.

 

[Idgit]

You are not even trying

Of course it matters if you can get an extra possesion or have the wind and/or sun in the 4th quarter

But JG doesn't believe in the sun either even though JJones laid out the field to make it a factor like a moron

Your ‘extra possession’ theory isn’t a function of who’s kicking. It’s a function of his the possessions play out in the first half. Yes, you want that last chance to score last in either half and it can be a possession count advantage for you. But that’s true regardless of whether you decide to kick or to receive.

Good point about the weather or sunlight implications. Those are obvious reasons that can affect your decision to kick or receive. Though they can go both ways, too, and aren’t really part of the general principle discusssion we’re having here.

 

[Idgit]

Having a better defense then offense means we could stop them, start with better field position potentially go into half with small lead. Then get ball at half and extend lead, that’s idea of going defense first. Especially if your defense is your strength.

Take the half out of it and look at a series of a dozen or so alternating possessions between teams. Why does it matter which possessions you stop them on and which you don’t? What matters is how many, and whether they’re getting TDs or FGs. Any order of scoring more than the opponent wins. There are pattern implications: getting behind by too many possessions changes how your offense plays, for example. But if you’ve got a team that gets behind by multiple scores a lot, it doesn’t matter much what you do with the coin toss. But since the possessions alternate, you’re still always trading blows.

In your example above, I get the field position argument. But a bad offense is going to give a good defense filed position to start a half. That can happen in the first half or the second, but again, the effect is the same: at least one starting position where you’re giving up good field position.

 

[Jarv]

Tony Romo disagrees.

He has mentioned more than once that on the road, he wanted the ball in the second half because most fans are away from the stands and it's much quieter and easier to run the offense.

Of course, this logic goes completely over Garretts head.

Tony also said JG is not an Xs and Os guy, so it makes sense JG can't figure this out.

 

[Idgit]

This is a problem. If one doesn't really work, shouldn't you try the other at some point? Or just on occasion do something different? If you're playing an offense that's been having problems? great opportunity to make something happen NOPE, same deal over and over and over and over.. and some don't see an issue here?

This is why, if I’m losing too much at checkers I’ll sometimes take the other color. If red doesn’t work, sometimes it’s effective to try black.

 

[Jinxx13x]

He likes to set the tone for 3 and outs!

oh wait

 

[Dre11]

He said it himself big chief

It's bs

 

[CB61]

it's more than just a strategy. it's managing a football game according to your opponents strengths and weaknesses.

Yeah that's kind of what I meant and Garrett doesn't seem to be very good at it you just said it better than I did I agree with you 150%

 

[CB61]

Yeah that's kind of what I meant and Garrett doesn't seem to be very good at it you just said it better than I did I agree with you either that or he just doesn't get it

 

[landroverking]

For sure I always what the D on the field first.

 

[HungryLion]

Nothing the coaches do, matters guys.

That’s the moral of the story and why Garret is A-ok.

We could hire any of us for 5 million and it wouldn’t matter. The players just have to execute.

 

[fifaguy]

Plesse stop asking for the ball first if you win the coin flip. The defense is the strength of the team.

Yeah not a fan of trotting out there on offense with the same lame plays and a quick 3 and out lol