Please stop asking for the ball first if you win the coin flip

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There isn't an advantage to be gained, either way, really.
You always defer.... the other side may choose to go D first and you could get the ball both halves

Belichick has made a science of scoring late in the first half and coming out quickly in the second half and scoring while the fans are still in the bathroom and beer lines
 

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There isn't an advantage to be gained, either way, really.

Disagree. When you get the ball to start the game there are 60 minutes left. Get it to start the third and there are only 30 minutes left.
 

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I personally would prefer us deferring the kickoff. Not sure it makes much difference, but it'd be nice to give our defence a bit longer of a break.
 

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Disagree. When you get the ball to start the game there are 60 minutes left. Get it to start the third and there are only 30 minutes left.
Garrett fans are as football clueless as he is. Ask Belicheck if it doesn’t matter :facepalm:

But there is one constant in Belichick’s approach: He will defer possession to the second half if New England wins the coin toss. For Belichick and the Patriots, it is as consistent as the weekly television shot of the owner Robert K. Kraft during the game.
It just comes down to each week,” Belichick said during a conference call. “We make the decision prior to the game based on all the circumstances that go into the game, what we want to do.”


Common sense isn’t common, even when your a millionaire. Garrett is a damn thief
 

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And even Cowboys coach Jason Garrett -- who has taken the ball on 10 of the 13 coin tosses the Cowboys have won this year -- has deferred the past two weeks, pointing out the chance to steal a possession on the road when fans are still in concession or restroom lines after halftime, rather than at full throat after the opening kickoff.

"All the factors that you would think would go into it, go into it," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. "Sometimes we withhold that decision until we actually see what the field conditions are for that particular game, like Thursday night [against Miami], a game like that. Obviously if you’re playing in a dome in Indianapolis, we don’t need to get that information. But games that are weather games, that could affect that decision, too. How you want to start the game, what your offensive or defensive game plan is -- here’s how we want to try to start the game -- maybe that affects it. There could be a lot of factors, so we try to consider them all and do what we think is best."


The difference in the reasoning :lmao2::lmao::laugh: you can’t make this up. Fans at concession stands. Lmao!
 

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Disagree. When you get the ball to start the game there are 60 minutes left. Get it to start the third and there are only 30 minutes left.

Which is better to your way of thinking?

Either way, you get about a dozen possessions. It doesn’t matter when you get them as long as the clock isn’t a factor.
 

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You always defer.... the other side may choose to go D first and you could get the ball both halves

Belichick has made a science of scoring late in the first half and coming out quickly in the second half and scoring while the fans are still in the bathroom and beer lines

Realistically, that’s not going to happen unless somebody makes an embarrassing coaching error.

And scoring just before the end of halves is good practice whether you’re receiving the kickoff or not.
 

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Which is better to your way of thinking?

Either way, you get about a dozen possessions. It doesn’t matter when you get them as long as the clock isn’t a factor.
Unless you’re on the road, in say Seattle, and thousands of the fans are still getting beer and going to the bathroom rather than making it impossible for the offense to hear. As they clearly would the first possession of the game.

Another reason is just seeing how the game is going. what’s working and not as others have said. Also, how many times do we see one team or the other score right before half? Seems like fairly often. If that happens you either have a chance to get a score back or go up another.

It’s a clear advantage in many ways. IMO
 

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There isn't an advantage to be gained, either way, really.

Sure there is. You have the opportunity for two posessessions in a row, and keep the other team from having that opportunity.
 

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Unless you’re on the road, in say Seattle, and thousands of the fans are still getting beer and going to the bathroom rather than making it impossible for the offense to hear. As they clearly would the first possession of the game.

Another reason is just seeing how the game is going. what’s working and not as others have said. Also, how many times do we see one team or the other score right before half? Seems like fairly often. If that happens you either have a chance to get a score back or go up another.

It’s a clear advantage in many ways. IMO

The reverse of all those things is also true. The benefit of playing with a lead from the get go? The benefit of taking a home crowd out of a game early? Seeing how the game is going helps if you’re competitive, but if you’re behind because you deferred the kick early? You end up like us v GB in the playoffs in 2016.

Scoring before half is always great...whether you kicked off or received.

It’s a disadvantage as much as an advantage. Possessions are possessions. It’s a chance to score, no matter when they come.
 

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Sure there is. You have the opportunity for two posessessions in a row, and keep the other team from having that opportunity.

How often does the team who ends a half get to be the team that starts a half? About 50% of the time? And are you more likely to score twice on series 2 and 3 than you are on your 1st and 4th? If so, why?
 

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How often does the team who ends a half get to be the team that starts a half? About 50% of the time? And are you more likely to score twice on series 2 and 3 than you are on your 1st and 4th? If so, why?
It doesn’t matter if it’s 1 pct. that would still constitute an advantage.

As far as if you’re more likely to score, doubtful. The advantage is in the opportunity to stack points before giving the ball back.
 

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It doesn’t matter if it’s 1 pct. that would still constitute an advantage.

As far as if you’re more likely to score, doubtful. The advantage is in the opportunity to stack points before giving the ball back.

We don’t know if there’s a 1% advantage though. And if they score TDs on possessions 1 and 4, and you score em on 2 and 3, you’re still tied. Stacking didn’t help. The concurrence has to make scoring easier somehow, and I don’t see how it does.
 
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