Point: Kellen Moore Deserves Chance To Answer Questions About QB Spot

It was time 2 months ago..... :(

Okay lets say he plays the last 3 games.

If they go 0-3 and he looks as awful as the rest of them have is it going to be his fault or the coaches?

Cause by your 2 months ago thing you seem to think he would play better then Cassel or Weeden, despite the fact that the offensive coaching is trash.

So I'm genuinely curious if he comes in, does terrible like Weeden and Cassel are you going to say it's because Moore sucks or will you be making an excuse for him?
 
Do you believe the offensive coordinator in Dallas determines who starts at QB?

Tell me you don't believe that.

Of course not. It was in response to how the OP feeling sorry for him. If Linehan wanted his boy Moore to start, I am sure he would be raising the issue above his head to make it more of a reality. Sounds to me that everyone is just fine with Cassel.
 
They should play him it's ridiculous not too to see what he has......they are not winning with Cassell anyway so why not. You can't keep both of them next year so see who you should keep if either. Cassell has been in the League long enough and been with the Cowboys long enough to have played better and HAS NOT. So in my opinion hes past his prime and I personally don't want him back next year. I've been terribly unimpressed.
 
Weeden stats came from check downs. Weeden was too inconsistent. I watch him miss wide open players and was gun shy. Casell is better in my book but his play is average at best.

Average... lol. Cassel is currently 32nd among 33 NFL QBs in yards per attempt, 31st in passer rating and 30th in Total QBR. If Weeden's stats are from check downs, then Weeden needs to be brought back as QB coach to show Cassel how to check down.... and without throwing the ball 10 feet over their head.
 
If Moore was lights out balling during practice it would be noticed by now and he would be playing games. He hasn't so it wasn't and he won't. Why do fans try to attribute traits to a player that they do not posses? Wishful thinking? Whatever the reason, let it go. Jedi mind trick: he's not the QB we are looking for.
 
At this point I almost support Cassel just to make sure we lose out.

I'd almost hate to see Kellen play decently cause we'd probably win a couple more.
Let Cassel eat this crud sandwich for 3 more games than release him and move on.

We'll see Kellen next pre-season with a clean slate.
 
I only want Moore in there if he is bad.

If he is good then keep him on the sidelines so we can keep improving this draft position.

#4 as of now.
 
At this point I almost support Cassel just to make sure we lose out.

I'd almost hate to see Kellen play decently cause we'd probably win a couple more.
Let Cassel eat this crud sandwich for 3 more games than release him and move on.

We'll see Kellen next pre-season with a clean slate.

We might not, though. A guy with his physical limitations might not get his chance if you don't give it to him now. It's always going to be easier to go with the tall, experienced veteran for that backup role. If you're developing a guy, realistically it's not going to be a guy you got off of the DET practice squad. And if Moore outplays a guy you do tab as your next rookie project in camp, you always have to wonder if it's just because he's been in the system longer, or whether the rookie is just not very good. Either way, you're still inclined to give that roster spot for QB3 to the guy you just drafted.
If Moore's every going to prove he's capable of being even a QB2, it's going to be this week or next week. I see zero reason to stick with a guy who gives you 114 yards and a pick on his way to a 41.5 rating just because of his 'experience,' If his experience is all in not converting 3rd downs in Dallas, then it's really not all that helpful, right?

I don't even care about the draft pick. Nothing of real significance is going to change with the structure of the organization this offseason. I'd rather have the lower pick and not the stink of losing out than the higher pick and an even worse record. It's pretty tough to sell the team on the process again after it gets you to 4-12 the year before.
 
He won't play unless there is a injury. This coaching staff is all about little risk and little reward. They would rather have someone who is a known 5 out of a 10 in performance as opposed to someone who might be a 2 or might be an 8. That's how we roll.
 
Kellen Moore hasn't done anything to deserve a chance but he should get a chance with the poor play we've had from the backup QB position just to see what he may have if anything. In Jerry's post game interview yesterday he didn't seem enthused about playing Moore when his name was mentioned we'll see if things change this week or in the final couple of weeks.
 
If Moore was lights out balling during practice it would be noticed by now and he would be playing games. He hasn't so it wasn't and he won't. Why do fans try to attribute traits to a player that they do not posses? Wishful thinking? Whatever the reason, let it go. Jedi mind trick: he's not the QB we are looking for.

Then explain why they kept Moore over Weeden for the #2 spot.
 
Then explain why they kept Moore over Weeden for the #2 spot.

Coaches are really, really averse to playing QBs with no starting experience when the games still matter. Garrett, of all people, just isn't going to do it. But you're right. Weeden was still getting guaranteed money from his CLE contract, so it wasn't really a cost issue. They had to have determined he wasn't going to develop further, fast enough, and kept Moore, instead.

Now, reading between the lines from what we do know about the QB position, I think Moore is a young guy they see as a potential QB2 for his career. He's not somebody they're seriously grooming for starting, or we'd be getting tidbits from Jerry or Stephen, or we'd be hearing Romo saying something complementary about him or the receivers would be talking. It's been pretty clear that the team thought Cassel was the one who was likely to have improved here recently or that he was the player they should have moved earlier to possibly add to the roster. Broaddus had some buzz early that suggested Linehan wanted to maybe give Moore a shot in between Cassel and Weeden, but I take that with a grain of salt, too, because it's Broaddus and because they were never going to play Moore when the game still mattered and an experience backup was healthy.

I think they like the guy. I think they think he's got a shot to be a backup, or to maybe push a young developmental player. I don't think they really see him as a legitimate option at QB beyond that.

I don't, either. But it would be nice to have even a young player with moxie back there making better decisions or better throws when it comes to third downs. We absolutely can't win with Cassel playing the way he played yesterday, so if the only other option who knows the system is Moore, I'm all for seeing him even if he's a complete unknown. I can live with the significant risk of extra turnovers if the alternative is to lose, anyway. If the upside is maybe extending a drive here and there and making the games more interesting to watch, then let's do that.
 
Okay lets say he plays the last 3 games.

If they go 0-3 and he looks as awful as the rest of them have is it going to be his fault or the coaches?

Cause by your 2 months ago thing you seem to think he would play better then Cassel or Weeden, despite the fact that the offensive coaching is trash.

So I'm genuinely curious if he comes in, does terrible like Weeden and Cassel are you going to say it's because Moore sucks or will you be making an excuse for him?

the offense is bad, but I think moore would do better passing, by being on target, and finding receivers, and throwing quicker, and hopefully
not staring down 1 guy.
Moore has not played, so i would give him a break for first game and judge him more on 2nd game and 3rd game.

Knowing JG and jerry, he might just get 1 possession with a lot of runs called.

Cowboys are done now so they should start moore next game, but they wont.
Dallas would have to win next 3 games in a row to have a chance, and also have other teams lose, and that is such a longshot.
I dont think dallas can win more than 2 of next 3, which means they are done.
They cant win div with 10 losses.
Odds are they will win none or maybe the wash game at end.

So why not play moore?
 
Coaches are really, really averse to playing QBs with no starting experience when the games still matter. Garrett, of all people, just isn't going to do it. But you're right. Weeden was still getting guaranteed money from his CLE contract, so it wasn't really a cost issue. They had to have determined he wasn't going to develop further, fast enough, and kept Moore, instead.

Now, reading between the lines from what we do know about the QB position, I think Moore is a young guy they see as a potential QB2 for his career. He's not somebody they're seriously grooming for starting, or we'd be getting tidbits from Jerry or Stephen, or we'd be hearing Romo saying something complementary about him or the receivers would be talking. It's been pretty clear that the team thought Cassel was the one who was likely to have improved here recently or that he was the player they should have moved earlier to possibly add to the roster. Broaddus had some buzz early that suggested Linehan wanted to maybe give Moore a shot in between Cassel and Weeden, but I take that with a grain of salt, too, because it's Broaddus and because they were never going to play Moore when the game still mattered and an experience backup was healthy.

I think they like the guy. I think they think he's got a shot to be a backup, or to maybe push a young developmental player. I don't think they really see him as a legitimate option at QB beyond that.

I don't, either. But it would be nice to have even a young player with moxie back there making better decisions or better throws when it comes to third downs. We absolutely can't win with Cassel playing the way he played yesterday, so if the only other option who knows the system is Moore, I'm all for seeing him even if he's a complete unknown. I can live with the significant risk of extra turnovers if the alternative is to lose, anyway. If the upside is maybe extending a drive here and there and making the games more interesting to watch, then let's do that.

jerry is the one who wants cassel, he wanted bledsoe over romo too !!
Jerry has a history of preferring experienced qb's.
Linehan would have already started moore, he had moore in detroit, but same thing there he could not play moore over stafford.
And linehan can want moore in , but it is the jones who decide who starts, and JG might have some say, but not much.

With cassel struggling with the wet ball, in this gb game i would have went with moore in 2nd half.
 
Coaches are really, really averse to playing QBs with no starting experience when the games still matter. Garrett, of all people, just isn't going to do it. But you're right. Weeden was still getting guaranteed money from his CLE contract, so it wasn't really a cost issue. They had to have determined he wasn't going to develop further, fast enough, and kept Moore, instead.

Now, reading between the lines from what we do know about the QB position, I think Moore is a young guy they see as a potential QB2 for his career. He's not somebody they're seriously grooming for starting, or we'd be getting tidbits from Jerry or Stephen, or we'd be hearing Romo saying something complementary about him or the receivers would be talking. It's been pretty clear that the team thought Cassel was the one who was likely to have improved here recently or that he was the player they should have moved earlier to possibly add to the roster. Broaddus had some buzz early that suggested Linehan wanted to maybe give Moore a shot in between Cassel and Weeden, but I take that with a grain of salt, too, because it's Broaddus and because they were never going to play Moore when the game still mattered and an experience backup was healthy.

I think they like the guy. I think they think he's got a shot to be a backup, or to maybe push a young developmental player. I don't think they really see him as a legitimate option at QB beyond that.

I don't, either. But it would be nice to have even a young player with moxie back there making better decisions or better throws when it comes to third downs. We absolutely can't win with Cassel playing the way he played yesterday, so if the only other option who knows the system is Moore, I'm all for seeing him even if he's a complete unknown. I can live with the significant risk of extra turnovers if the alternative is to lose, anyway. If the upside is maybe extending a drive here and there and making the games more interesting to watch, then let's do that.

Yeah, I don't believe anyone thinks this guy is the future, but we know Cassel is not a viable back-up for 2016 and if we're not planning to draft a QB high (or even if we are) there is no reason not to use the very valuable game time experance for evaluating
 
jerry is the one who wants cassel, he wanted bledsoe over romo too !!
Jerry has a history of preferring experienced qb's.
Linehan would have already started moore, he had moore in detroit, but same thing there he could not play moore over stafford.
And linehan can want moore in , but it is the jones who decide who starts, and JG might have some say, but not much.

With cassel struggling with the wet ball, in this gb game i would have went with moore in 2nd half.

I think Jerry and Jason are probably on the same page re: the veteran QB, though I agree that Jerry does like Cassel for some reasons.

I would have gone with Moore in the 2nd half, too. It was obvious we weren't moving the ball. Then we had that great drive on the ground, and I thought "well, maybe we'll get it together a little bit here and we're safer with a guy we think won't throw a pick." And then it became evident that he also wasn't going to throw many completions, either.

114 yards and a pick. Even if the pick isn't entirely his fault. Yuck.
 

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