Possible 10-15 years of .500 football when Dak's gone

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He only passed for 403 yards, competing 41 passes, both Cowboys playoff records and he threw 3 TDs. He also rushed for 45 yards. Pollard and Dowdle only combined for 67 yards.
He did all that after the game was out of reach and the Packers were on cruise control, and who cares about broken records in a losing effort?
 

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All those yards and td's don't matter... If he did that in the first half i don't think we are here arguing this. The fact that most of that came when the game was lost is the issue.
If he did that in the first half we would have still needed at least 50 points because our defense couldn’t stop GB all day. The more points we scored, the more they would have scored and we would have lost in a shootout.
 

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I asked you to name one who can. The only solution to keep the team competitive and having a chance to compete in the playoffs is to extend Dak. The book on him hasn’t been finished. We are accomplishing something by winning our division and making the playoffs consistently. We’re at least giving ourselves a chance.
You are asking for a hypothetical to try and counter what is already known - Dak isn't the guy. Asking someone to get psychic isn't a defense of Dak at all. It's a ridiculous attempt at deflection on your part.
 

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You are asking for a hypothetical to try and counter what is already known - Dak isn't the guy. Asking someone to get psychic isn't a defense of Dak at all. It's a ridiculous attempt at deflection on your part.
Dak hasn’t been the guy but his career isn’t over. Many Lions fans said Stafford wasn’t the guy. Big numbers but an 0-3 playoff record. They were ready to try someone else and did. Stafford went on to win a SB the very next year with another team that had a defense that stepped up. Dak could very well do the same thing with another team. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s good enough to win a SB but the Cowboys aren’t.
 

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If he did that in the first half we would have still needed at least 50 points because our defense couldn’t stop GB all day. The more points we scored, the more they would have scored and we would have lost in a shootout.
I beg to differ. If the offense gave us any life the first half, The def would have played with some juice. The fact that all dak did was score at the end of the first half(erasing his pick 6) and followed that with a fg out of halftime does not give anyone confidence.
 

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Dak hasn’t been the guy but his career isn’t over. Many Lions fans said Stafford wasn’t the guy. Big numbers but an 0-3 playoff record. They were ready to try someone else and did. Stafford went on to win a SB the very next year with another team that had a defense that stepped up. Dak could very well do the same thing with another team. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s good enough to win a SB but the Cowboys aren’t.
If the Cowboy are not the team that can win with Dak, then why extend him? There is no logic in that at all.

You say Dak can win a SB, but not with the Cowboys but they need to extend him? lmao
 

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I don't think its even a roster personnel issue. Its about coaching and discipline. For whatever reason, Jerry seems to have huge disdain for coaching and discipline and it always comes back to bite him.
I think we blame the coaches too much because it is hard to overcome weak links that could have been fixed by the front office. Our 1990s championship teams had complete rosters. We had the No. 1 defense and one of the top offenses during our Super Bowl years. Yes, some of that boils down to coaching, but since those 1990s teams, the Joneses have been either negligent in using the draft (post-Jimmy, pre-Parcells) or in using free agency (post-Parcells). You skip one area of roster-building and you are going to have problems.
 

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I beg to differ. If the offense gave us any life the first half, The def would have played with some juice. The fact that all dak did was score at the end of the first half(erasing his pick 6) and followed that with a fg out of halftime does not give anyone confidence.
It was a PLAYOFF game, that should have inspired the defense to come out of the blocks playing with some juice but they came out flat and could never get it going. Just look at SF’s defense once they got way behind to Detroit. They stepped up! The biggest issue with our defense is our lack of physicality and toughness. One good punch and we fold.
 

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Theres a third camp.
If we give a new qb everything the dak camp wants HIM to have, we probably win as much and certainly no worse in the playoffs. The dak camp claims we could never win with another qb...totally bizarre.
I think dak SHOULD get a run stopping defense and a run game. I think coop should get that, and lance. And parsons. Or a drafted qb. To think we only win with dak in that scenario....bizarre.
If you think Rush or Lance can win even with that, that's also bizarre. Rush crumbled against the Eagles. Lance hasn't even proven he deserves to play in this league. These are unproven players despite the Cowboys 5-1 record with Rush (there's a reason he's a backup).

There's also no guarantee any other QB that we get wouldn't be just as much of an issue. Fans go to extremes: We can't win with any other QB or we can win with any other QB are both extremes. It's part of the hyperfocus on the QB position instead of staying focused on the real problem: management.
 

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I can blame the defense for giving up after watching dak on the first drives, they knew he wasn't beating anybody that day, but they should have intercepted passes and recovered some fumbles to keep it close. losers. why is it such and easier task for them to carry Rush, do the guys just hate dak. :(
 

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I can blame the defense for giving up after watching dak on the first drives, they knew he wasn't beating anybody that day, but they should have intercepted passes and recovered some fumbles to keep it close. losers. why is it such and easier task for them to carry Rush, do the guys just hate dak. :(
The defense is the reason they lost all the games they did. Dak is the one that won the 12 games, the defense had nothing to do with those games.
 

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I asked you to name one who can. The only solution to keep the team competitive and having a chance to compete in the playoffs is to extend Dak. The book on him hasn’t been finished. We are accomplishing something by winning our division and making the playoffs consistently. We’re at least giving ourselves a chance.
8 years, 2 wildcard wins. This book needs to be finished.
 

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8 years, 2 wildcard wins. This book needs to be finished.
10 years and 2 wildcard wins with Romo. Different QB, same results. It’s not going to get any better with the next QB if we keep seeing the same issues with the team and coaching. It’s likely to get worse because it’s not going to be easy improving over our last two QBs. We may not make it through a few pages with our next QB. We may be turning the page on one QB after another.
 

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10 years and 2 wildcard wins with Romo. Different QB, same results. It’s not going to get any better with the next QB if we keep seeing the same issues with the team and coaching. It’s likely to get worse.
So extend Dak at a record breaking contract. Totally makes sense.
 

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10 years and 2 wildcard wins with Romo. Different QB, same results. It’s not going to get any better with the next QB if we keep seeing the same issues with the team and coaching. It’s likely to get worse.
Especially if Jerry/Stephen keep waiting til day 3 of the draft to find a QB. Organization has a lot of problems with QB being one.
 

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Haven't won what matters since 1995....at this point, who cares - move on to the next QB and hope we get lucky.
 

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Dak hasn’t been the guy but his career isn’t over. Many Lions fans said Stafford wasn’t the guy. Big numbers but an 0-3 playoff record. They were ready to try someone else and did. Stafford went on to win a SB the very next year with another team that had a defense that stepped up. Dak could very well do the same thing with another team. There’s no doubt in my mind he’s good enough to win a SB but the Cowboys aren’t.
a defense to keep you in the game until you get the ball rolling is key. look at KC, they scored 3 points in the first half, but their defense kept them in the game giving up only 10 points. they stayed close, knowing that Mahomes will get in gear. but if they would give up 21 points then its a totally different game. that happened against Tampa when they went down 21-6.

however, in these neck of the woods defense has zero culpability. nobody on offense has any culpability. its always on the QB, Dak, Romo and whomever else.
 

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Especially if Jerry/Stephen keep waiting til day 3 of the draft to find a QB. Organization has a lot of problems with QB being one.
That's why the Cowboys should take the next best QB on board with their first pick in the draft. Dak has never had any competition, the job was practically given to him!
 

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That's why the Cowboys should take the next best QB on board with their first pick in the draft. Dak has never had any competition, the job was practically given to him!
Honestly, it is probably better to wait for the next HC. Although it wouldn't surprise me if the Joneses tied a guy to the new coach without him having any choice or say so. We will get another puppet HC anyways.
 

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Especially if Jerry/Stephen keep waiting til day 3 of the draft to find a QB. Organization has a lot of problems with QB being one.
Drafting one earlier doesn’t guarantee you’ll hit on one better than Dak. Mahomes is the only QB drafted since 2016 to win a SB. If Dak was a first round draft pick a lot of fans probably wouldn’t trash him as much. Some keep using his 4th round draft status against him. The organization does have a lot of problems and a new QB isn’t going to be able to overcome them.
 
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