Possible 10-15 years of .500 football when Dak's gone

stiletto

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I knew the haters would not like this thread. The fact they’re out in force proves it. Hate on bros. It soothes you.
There are people that were ready to throw Dak out after his first playoff loss. Those people are just as unreasonable as people like you who will give Dak unlimited time and chances to get over the hump or blame everyone not taking up 20% of the teams salary.. Both extremes are stupid... The answer is in the middle. There is a time point you have to move on from a guy that does the same things over and over.

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QB’s don’t grow on trees. No matter what you think of Dak, he‘s not the reason for not having much playoff success. He was 2nd in NFL MVP race for a reason. He’s that good. Once he’s gone, it could possibly be years before they break .500. This is no Chicago Bears defense in the making not with massive holes at DT and LB. Mahomes and Brady are generational type players. Picking a QB in the draft is a 50/50 crap shoot AT BEST. So many 1st round busts at that position. Casual fans don’t understand that and want Dak gone NOW. But ask them who’s going to be the QB? They think anyone they draft will be the answer right away. Not likely to happen.

I hope Dak gets extended because I know he gives the team the best chance of winning the Super Bowl. I just hope it’s a team friendly extension. Fix the running game and get a defense that can stop the run and he can easily lead this team to the Super Bowl.
Fix fix fix! How about get rid of the guy that looks like he doesn't belong on an NFL field every time Dallas plays a good team.
 

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Fix fix fix! How about get rid of the guy that looks like he doesn't belong on an NFL field every time Dallas plays a good team.
I've been asking these DAKDAVIDIANS for days now for 3 Signature wins of the Prescott man and so far nothing?
How can a QB sooooooooooooooooooooo Great after 8 seasons not have 3 signature wins to his name???????????:eek::huh:
 

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QB’s don’t grow on trees. No matter what you think of Dak, he‘s not the reason for not having much playoff success. He was 2nd in NFL MVP race for a reason. He’s that good. Once he’s gone, it could possibly be years before they break .500. This is no Chicago Bears defense in the making not with massive holes at DT and LB. Mahomes and Brady are generational type players. Picking a QB in the draft is a 50/50 crap shoot AT BEST. So many 1st round busts at that position. Casual fans don’t understand that and want Dak gone NOW. But ask them who’s going to be the QB? They think anyone they draft will be the answer right away. Not likely to happen.

I hope Dak gets extended because I know he gives the team the best chance of winning the Super Bowl. I just hope it’s a team friendly extension. Fix the running game and get a defense that can stop the run and he can easily lead this team to the Super Bowl.
It's a risk, no matter which way you go. Dak has looked excellent in many games, but then in playoff games he's often looked like a confused scrub. To be sure, those losses aren't all on him. It's always a team win or loss. The QB is never solely responsible. So you could roll the dice that Dak's going to get it together, and they'll be able to field the type of team he needs to win, or you could roll the dice by letting him walk and hoping some like Lance or a drafted rookie, or even some free agent signing, will work out. Whoever ends up under center, I think this team needs an outstanding O-line and running game. They did well with Romo and Demarco Murray in 2014, and then again with Dak and Zeke in 2016. If you can run it down their throats, that takes a huge amount of pressure off your QB because he doesn't have to make great plays on every play, and it opens up throwing lanes. A great running game gave us the very best of both Romo and Dak. So whether they stick with Dak or go with someone else, I hope this team makes a great O-line and the running game a huge priority.
 

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I am thinking more like 50 or 60 years of futility.

We need to break our current streak by 30 years.
 

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No franchise QB is easily replaced. You honestly believe replacing him with an equal or better QB will be easy?
Rockport said he was just 1 of 53.

But seriously, with h a halfway competent front office, it shouldn’t be hard to find a QB to match or better Daks 2 wildcard wins.
 

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QB’s don’t grow on trees. No matter what you think of Dak, he‘s not the reason for not having much playoff success. He was 2nd in NFL MVP race for a reason. He’s that good. Once he’s gone, it could possibly be years before they break .500. This is no Chicago Bears defense in the making not with massive holes at DT and LB. Mahomes and Brady are generational type players. Picking a QB in the draft is a 50/50 crap shoot AT BEST. So many 1st round busts at that position. Casual fans don’t understand that and want Dak gone NOW. But ask them who’s going to be the QB? They think anyone they draft will be the answer right away. Not likely to happen.

I hope Dak gets extended because I know he gives the team the best chance of winning the Super Bowl. I just hope it’s a team friendly extension. Fix the running game and get a defense that can stop the run and he can easily lead this team to the Super Bowl.
Dak only has 5 more seasons before father time starts eroding his skills, so we only have 5 more years anyway.
 

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This guy HATES Cooper Rush for killing this narrative so much that he just pretends Cooper Rush isn’t 5-1 with the roster that only Dakky Poo can win with and nobody else.
Rush held down the fort for 5 games with a defense that was on pace to break the 84 Bears sack record and never gave up more than 17 points during those 5 wins. If you think he’s a long-term answer then you’re completely engulfed by your hatred for Dak.
 

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The Cincinnati Bengals abruptly gave up on franchise QB Andy Dalton, whose playoff history did not look dissimilar to Dak’s, and immediately drafted his replacement who led them to back-to-back AFCCG’s and a SB.

The Seahawks moved on from Russell Wilson, and with no franchise QB have had winning seasons both years since.

The Kansas City Chiefs prematurely dumped franchise QB Alex Smith and immediately established Patrick Mahomes as their franchise QB, making it further in the playoffs his first starting year than Smith did.

The Houston Texans moved on from Deshaun Watson, and within two years were in the playoffs with their new franchise QB, even winning a playoff game.

The Atlanta Falcons moved on from their longtime franchise QB after years of playoff disappointments, and within 2 years have rebuilt their offense and signed a new franchise QB to run it.

The Green Bay Packers moved on from Aaron Rodgers, and immediately made as far in the playoffs as Dallas has in 28 years (ironically by beating Dallas). And in the process appear to have their franchise QB.

The Pittsburgh Steelers have had a winning record every year since Ben Roethlisberger retired, even through the throws of a failed franchise QB.

The Baltimore Ravens moved on from longtime franchise QB Joe Flacco in a cost cutting move, and his replacement won league MVP the very next season.

The Philadelphia Eagles moved on from Carson Wentz the year after 3 straight playoff seasons and were in the SB within 2 years. They also appear to have found their franchise QB.

The San Francisco 49ers benched and ultimately released their franchise QB, only to have a late round pick match his best playoff successes for 1/30th of the cost.

The Los Angeles Rams moved on from Jared Goff, and immediately won the Super Bowl.

Similarly, the Detroit Lions moved on from Matthew Stafford and were in the NFCCG 3 years later for the first time in franchise history.



Not all situations are identical to Dallas’, but they all have a common thread: coming up short in the playoffs is a ceiling they did not accept. It is not about whether or not you get that QB who will get you over the hump; it is about whether or not you have the will to try.
 

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Rush held down the fort for 5 games with a defense that was on pace to break the 84 Bears sack record and never gave up more than 17 points during those 5 wins. If you think he’s a long-term answer then you’re completely engulfed by your hatred for Dak.
But we know for a fact that Dak isn't the answer. The funny thing about Rush was this team played more inspired football. They rallied around Rush like he was a breath of fresh air. I really think there are players on this team that are fed up with Dak
 

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Rockport said he was just 1 of 53.

But seriously, with h a halfway competent front office, it shouldn’t be hard to find a QB to match or better Daks 2 wildcard wins.
You must be out of touch with the game if you think it’s going to be easy finding a QB that can consistently lead the Cowboys to the playoffs. We’ll never see the playoffs with a QB who isn’t productive and consistent during the regular season. QBs like that aren’t easy to find which is why so many teams are looking for QBs every offseason.
 

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Yeah so it’s not really up to dumb and dumber to get it right. Have to be lucky that the year you have the pick , it’s a good qb class.
As we have talked about many times, "hope" and "luck" can't be your primary strategy in teambuilding.
 

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Lol oh yea, curse this defense for holding the high powered 49ers offense to only 19 and 23 points
I’ll curse any defense giving up 169 yards on the ground and can’t make critical stops. The 49ers offense wasn’t that high powered. Not sure where you’re getting that it was. It’s laughable how anyone could defend our playoff defenses. That 2022 loss to the 49ers is the ONLY playoff loss we’ve had under Dak where the defense played respectably.
 

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This is a possibility and it’s one I’ve discussed in the past.

Moving on from Dak doesn’t guarantee anything and it could be hard to find a good QB.

But I’m ready for them to take the risk and try.
 
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