cnuball21
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He wouldn't be there at 90.
Even better...then I go get Daylon Mack who's a much better fit for what we're looking for. Could've even had him in the 4th.
He wouldn't be there at 90.
Great write up
It's possible Hill develops into a good player but the process is still broken
I'm saying that they have improved the defensive line and that line will put pressure on the qb which makes the secondary better.I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to say here...
So if we're reaching for a 3/4 rd talent in rd 2 his talent suddenly increases because of where we drafted him?
Lol
You're in a roll today buddy
I would recommend staying at home so you dont hurt yourself
I'm saying that they have improved the defensive line and that line will put pressure on the qb which makes the secondary better.
I just meant that history has shown a 3rd and 4th round prospect hast worked and he said it would.
I think by now it's clear that Dallas disagrees Hill is a 3rd or 4th round prospect.
I've been wrong before, Dallas has been wrong before, itll happen again for everyone. I'm simply more optimistic than @cnuball21 but I respect his opinion. If hes right and Hill isn't worth a 2nd rounder then more power to him.
The point is that this was a reach
Even if Hill does work out, it does not mean it was a good pick, this is a bad process
This FO does things hoping they will work out
You will never get consistently good results if the process is bad
Why not have a sound plan? Draft Thornhill or Adderly. Build a team not on hope but on strategy ?
That is a big part of my problem with this FO
They are trying to prove to people they are smarter. Trying to hit the homerun and striking out in the process
Anyway, that's JMO
The point is that this was a reach
Even if Hill does work out, it does not mean it was a good pick, this is a bad process
This FO does things hoping they will work out
You will never get consistently good results if the process is bad
Why not have a sound plan? Draft Thornhill or Adderly. Build a team not on hope but on strategy ?
That is a big part of my problem with this FO
They are trying to prove to people they are smarter. Trying to hit the homerun and striking out in the process
Anyway, that's JMO
I had my hopes up when the cowboys interviewed Mack at the shrine game or senior bowl , whatever it was. Jmo, the cowboys could have drafted Mack and had daylon and woods rotate at the 1 tech and had Covington and Collins rotate at the 3 tech.oh well. Hopefully Hill hopefully turns out to be a good player but I don't get Rods infatuation with him. Wren andEven better...then I go get Daylon Mack who's a much better fit for what we're looking for. Could've even had him in the 4th.
I had my hopes up when the cowboys interviewed Mack at the shrine game or senior bowl , whatever it was. Jmo, the cowboys could have drafted Mack and had daylon and woods rotate at the 1 tech and had Covington and Collins rotate at the 3 tech.oh well. Hopefully Hill hopefully turns out to be a good player but I don't get Rods infatuation with him. Wren and
Saunders were similar type players who were drafted later and whose combine performance numbers were almost
Identical to Hill's. Is Hill supossedly head and shoulders better than those two?
The point is that this was a reach
Even if Hill does work out, it does not mean it was a good pick, this is a bad process
This FO does things hoping they will work out
You will never get consistently good results if the process is bad
Why not have a sound plan? Draft Thornhill or Adderly. Build a team not on hope but on strategy ?
That is a big part of my problem with this FO
They are trying to prove to people they are smarter. Trying to hit the homerun and striking out in the process
Anyway, that's JMO
My problem with "just having to disrupt" basically means he's a one sided player that just gives you some pass rush ability. You can get that in the 3rd and 4th.
Hill was drafted at R2 P58.
Maleik Collins was drafted R3 P65.
There’s not a huge difference between the two; Hill is basically a 3rd rounder.
Drawing conclusions that differ from your own doesn't mean there's no "process" or "plan" in Dallas. A year ago you were telling us LVE is "Bobby Carpenter 2.0", so please understand if I take this post with a grain of salt.
No offense man, but I have to disagree with this. Was Fredrick a bad pick? According to the "experts", he should have gone in the third. Was Hitchens a bad pick? He was supposed to be undrafted, according to the "experts". A lot of "experts" thought LVE should have gone in the second. Bad pick? Smith was a bad pick because he probably would never play again. A smart GM would have taken a flyer during day 3 -right?
To me, the worse draft pick the Cowboys "made" in recent years was Max Unger. The guy they wanted, but they didn't go up and get because...because I don't know, they thought they could get him later. If you want a guy, take him. Don't worry about Kiper or the other draft nerds.
What are you gauging where a player should go? NFL.com? Brugler? Kiper? Walterfootball? These are just dudes and they were literally all over the place on Hill.
To me, the best draft expert is that dude that sits on the left side of the table. McClay is the best there is. I know, I know. Taco. But every team makes bad picks, but since McClay took over, we have been better than anyone.
Just my two-cents.
I agree to an extent, but would you not agree there were top 50 talents on the board that could’ve fit a need for us?
For me that’s about 20 or so slots higher than where I see Hill as a talent.
Hill is not like Gregory or Irving.No offense taken, buddy
Frederick and LVE had no off field or practice habit issues. Hill is much more like Gregory or Irving. How did those work out for us?
I understand that, but I think if you were listening to the team’s live stream with Bruglar he was mentioning values after the first five picks or so were all over the map.
I was an early fan of Thornihill and he was my #1 target (outside of Savage) heading into Round 2. That said, I can understand if the team valued a 3T more than him or Rapp.
Prospect value is a relative notion. Maranelli’s scheme (right or wrong) places value on the position and they don’t value the safety position nearly as much. When you see these various prospect rankings they are looking at valuation at a high level (macro) versus at a subjective (micro) level that would consider how every prospect fits into the specific offensive or defensive scheme of each of the 32 different teams (obviously because it would be a nearly impossible task).
Hill is not like Gregory or Irving.