Preliminary Injunction Granted **merged**

bsbellomy

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They still do. I still keep seeing people say its just like the Brady situation. He will spend 6 games on the bench next year. Yeah we will see. I have a feeling Kessler and team still have some bombshells to drop and they are waiting for it when they get back in court again. This isn't over yet.

I didn't hear such scathing words though when Berman made his ruling.
 

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Not that it make any real difference. I'm happy for Zeke that he got Justice outside the NFL.

But the NFL still owns its paid assassins called refs. They'll make sure the Cowboys go nowhere this season.

Control must be maintained.
 

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The judge seems to agree that this was a deliberate conspiracy.

The whole investigation and appeal process was a sham. Worse, it waa a mockery of the CBA.

The whole process used by the NFL never tried to be fair, from digging around for a year to loading the "Advisory Board" with special interest reps who benefited from finding Zeke at fault. The NFL commissioners office did far more to damage the NFL's reputation than any player could possibly have done.

The commisioner has shown himself to be unfair and unethical and should have his new unsigned contract ripped to shreds in front of his face.

If he was willing to deny Zeke fundamental fairness, how can we be sure he has acted fairly with other Cowboy players? Is this a personal vendetta against Jerry Jones and the Cowboys?
 

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Maybe. With how this one looks, it might be better for them to just take the L instead of having it on the appellate record in the Fifth Circuit that their process is BS.

The benefit, too, is that they can fix their process and then have basically a target on Zeke for his entire career. If he slips up at all they'll bring the fire.
I was just about to post the same thing!

This is one of those rare cases where the NFL just got slammed in court. They didn't just lose, they got embarrassed. Just as I have been saying, this case is becoming a must-win case for both sides that goes well beyond Ezekiel Elliott. The NFL assumed they were already in an untouchable power position so they likely felt their risk was minimal, while the NFLPA saw the writing on the wall and realized if Elliott loses this argument, their members (the players) are royally screwed until the next CBA takes effect.

What has happened now is that the judge has clearly made this a must-win for the NFLPA and a must-not-lose for the NFL. If the NFL wants to retain the power they have now in more harder-to-defend cases, they need this case to go away and not set any precedents, and as such, it would be in their best interests to let this one go as soon as possible. That said, while I'm sure Ezekiel Elliott would love that scenario, I can see the NFLPA now seeing blood in the water and not wanting to let it go.

The NFL has now put at risk the absolute power granted to them by the NFLPA in the current CBA. If the NFL loses that power to a third party or the court system going forward, or it at least becomes weak and diluted, the NFL will not only have lost the power to fight cases that damage the PR of the NFL, they will have also lost one of the largest leverage and negotiation points they have for the next CBA.

The smart play now for the NFL is to drop this case along with an admittance of "mistakes in the process." That would allow them to save a little face, at least with the media and general public (Cowboys and Patriots fans excluded of course) and, most importantly, would allow them to avoid a potential court order that could severely damage their control over player punishment and take away a huge negotiation point in the next CBA.

Of course another option for the NFL is to sit on this for now and hope Elliott screws up or more women come forward at some point, and then later drop it before it goes too far in the courts if neither of those scenarios unfold.

I also agree that regardless now of whether the NFL drops the case or the NFLPA ultimately wins this in the courts, Ezekiel Elliott better make sure he avoids trouble like his career depends on it (it likely will) because the NFL is going to be watching him as closely as possible.
 

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Paycheck bud. We're all ******.
Well, not all of us, but most us! Most of us are ******.
There we go.
That is what I don't understand about people's impressions of journalists.

Sorry, that cub reporter with the pencil behind his ear is not what it takes to survive in that profession in today's world.

You would think that fact is self evident with all of the layoffs and firings you have seen at ESPN and elsewhere.

But you still the person bitterly complaining that journalists don't report enough "facts".

As you indicated, they are "******". Information and attention ******.

I get it and I rarely get upset anymore like I used to.
 

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That is what I don't understand about people's impressions of journalists.

Sorry, that cub reporter with the pencil behind his ear is not what it takes to survive in that profession in today's world.

You would think that fact is self evident with all of the layoffs and firings you have seen at ESPN and elsewhere.

But you still the person bitterly complaining that journalists don't report enough "facts".

As you indicated, they are "******". Information and attention ******.

I get it and I rarely get upset anymore like I used to.
I said not a word vindictively. I am one myself. I thought that was self-evident...
 

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That's what I'm wondering as well.

Is this what you want from the grossly overpaid guy making $42 million a year?

Getting your league in trouble with the courts and being accused of "violating the CBA"?

They got what they need from Goodell when he bent over the players' union in the CBA negotiations. He's botched everything else since, and outstayed his welcome.

Time to go.

To me, it's bigger than the CBA. I can't put a price on a man being wrongly accused of something as heinous as beating a woman.

And it goes beyond the false accusation...the consequences of this is that future domestic violence accusations will now be treated with more scrutiny and sometimes that scrutiny will be unfair. And as it progresses to the nonsense that Goodell has perpetrated...the scrutiny against DV accusations will just become more ridiculous.

I'd like to think that most of the owners are not conniving scumbags that are for false accusations and hurting the movement towards anti-domestic violence. But they hired this conniving scumbag who doesn't give a damn about false accusations and doesn't give a damn about domestic violence...thus they guilty by proxy.




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I was just about to post the same thing!

This is one of those rare cases where the NFL just got slammed in court. They didn't just lose, they got embarrassed. Just as I have been saying, this case is becoming a must-win case for both sides that goes well beyond Ezekiel Elliott. The NFL assumed they were already in an untouchable power position so they likely felt their risk was minimal, while the NFLPA saw the writing on the wall and realized if Elliott loses this argument, their members (the players) are royally screwed until the next CBA takes effect.

What has happened now is that the judge has clearly made this a must-win for the NFLPA and a must-not-lose for the NFL. If the NFL wants to retain the power they have now in more harder-to-defend cases, they need this case to go away and not set any precedents, and as such, it would be in their best interests to let this one go as soon as possible. That said, while I'm sure Ezekiel Elliott would love that scenario, I can see the NFLPA now seeing blood in the water and not wanting to let it go.

The NFL has now put at risk the absolute power granted to them by the NFLPA in the current CBA. If the NFL loses that power to a third party or the court system going forward, or it at least becomes weak and diluted, the NFL will not only have lost the power to fight cases that damage the PR of the NFL, they will have also lost one of the largest leverage and negotiation points they have for the next CBA.

The smart play now for the NFL is to drop this case along with an admittance of "mistakes in the process." That would allow them to save a little face, at least with the media and general public (Cowboys and Patriots fans excluded of course) and, most importantly, would allow them to avoid a potential court order that could severely damage their control over player punishment and take away a huge negotiation point in the next CBA.

Of course another option for the NFL is to sit on this for now and hope Elliott screws up or more women come forward at some point, and then later drop it before it goes too far in the courts if neither of those scenarios unfold.

I also agree that regardless now of whether the NFL drops the case or the NFLPA ultimately wins this in the courts, Ezekiel Elliott better make sure he avoids trouble like his career depends on it (it likely will) because the NFL is going to be watching him as closely as possible.


I totally agree. The smart thing for the NFL to do at this point would be to not even appeal, vacate the suspension, and then tell everyone involved that they are to conduct themselves in a fair and objective manner from this point on. All the NFL has to do is be fair to its players. If convincing evidence is there, throw the book at the player. If not, simply say the evidence isn't there. Quit pandering to left wing agitators that never supported the NFL a day in their life.
 
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