Prescott drops to 7th highest paid QB

[MountaineerCowboy]

7th in pay, 20th in performance

It's the Cowboys way.

 

[G2]

Prescott puts his toilet paper on the holder wrong.

 

[charron]

Doesn't really matter if he's the highest or the not. Stephen Jones will not do much with the remaining cap dollars available. He's willing to overspend on his own players and that is it. So even if Dak had signed for less they wouldn't do anything productive like actually go out and add talent to a team who was winning. This team is not winning with or without Dak regardless.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

LOL!!! A guy who threw 5 more INTs and FIFTEEN fewer TDs was "thriving"... while "leading" his offense to 19 points or less in 8 of his last 11 games.. All hail that performance. What would this crowd be saying about our QB if our offense stunk it up like that over that long a span? I doubt the word "thriving" would ever enter into the conversation.

If Carr had a star on his helmet you would be one of the leaders of the "Carr thrived while all the distractions were going on" crowd, Ronnie.

We all know your game.

 

[CouchCoach]

From 2nd to 7th. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Again, I ask. Why does anyone care what he's getting paid?

 

[ESisback]

Spot on In regards to Rayne Dakota Presscott . Unfortunately, Jerry will give him another extention shortly. Good enough QB to compete within the division and that's good enough for Jerry!!!!!!!!!

2022-23 will be an important time for Dak. His extension depends on it.

 

[ESisback]

From 2nd to 7th. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Again, I ask. Why does anyone care what he's getting paid?

If they don’t like him, they can point out that reasonable-sounding premise that his cap eating contract hinders team building.

 

[ESisback]

If Carr had a star on his helmet you would be one of the leaders of the "Carr thrived while all the distractions were going on" crowd, Ronnie.

We all know your game.

When you say “we”, you mean the Troll Club, right?

 

[plymkr]

Probably lower before his contract matures. I bet by end of 2023 he’s looking for a new contract.

I was thinking the same thing. How mad would you guys be if he held out for a new contract.

 

[CowboyRoy]

neither is Lawrence or Zeke. IMHO they are bigger burden's. two positions that are more easily filled than a QB

there is no alterntive they can provide. they just want to whine and complain. some even said they don't have an idea and its not their job, but hey, I want to complain, whine, nag, etc.

Well thats really part of the whole thing isnt it? The fact that its near impossible to replace a top 7 QB in his prime. And why would you want to? So there are 5 or 6 QB's better than the one you have? And really by how much? Its about the team, QB position is more than covered.

Poor little Dak turds thought they could whine about Dak's contract. We tried to tell them it wouldnt take long. Dak is no longer getting "elite" money and is now well within the range of his worth based on current salaries. The laughable part is that in a year he may actually be a bargain.

 

[StarChamber_33]

It's great to make as much money as you can, and maximize your leverage BUT these QB's have to understand that in this [HARD CAP] era, their teams are struggling to RE-SIGN & ADD players that can help them WIN.

 

[Ken]

Those QBs had the ability to read defenses and had arm talent. They were gifted with those abilities.

Dak wouldn't have even been drafted if he wasn't a dual-threat QB. He wasn't drafted for his arm talent or ability to read defenses. Dak had the gift of being able to take off and run when he got confused. He doesn't do that anymore. Instead he will now hold on to the ball to long, take a sack, or make a bad decision.

His rookie season should not still be his best season. That aggravates me about Dak. He's still, 6 seasons in, chasing the ghost of his rookie year when he should have easily surpassed that by now. I mean, his rookie season was good for a rookie QB, but come on. He should have left that in the dust at this point.

If he improves this season without Cooper then great, but if it's business as usual or worse, then what? Are you going to try and sell "7th years a charm" to us because you don't want to accept what he is? At a certain point the ownership needs to actually try and win. Could you imagine the contract Jerry would have given Goff if he would have lead us to a Super Bowl like he did the Rams? The Rams were smart enough to know that he's not the guy and stop wasting time on him. The Cowboys should not fall into the trap of wasting time on a lost cause if we see another year of failure.

A few points about the bolded....

1. You can say that about an awful lot of qbs in this league right now. It is en vogue to draft these type of players.
2. Dak has worked on and developed to an Elite level (IMO) his ability to throw the football in the pocket. It is almost remarkable what he has been able to do to transform his game at the NFL level. What you see as "his rookie season being his best season" is not at all accurate. He was the absolute bus driver that all of the "qb experts" portend that he is now when it couldn't be further from the truth. Guys who can't throw, guys who can't read defenses, guys who make bad decisions, guys who are bus drivers, do NOT get to throw the ball 600 times in a season. They just don't.

Until people understand that Dak has gone through a metamorphosis at the qb position and improved in so many ways at the highest level of the sport, they will never appreciate what we have in this player.

Period.

 

[CowboyRoy]

First of all this an idiotic regurgitation of a take that has been proven false more than I can count. Secondly, before Kellen Moore took over play calling Dak had plenty of wins and great performances against "good teams. Given that, might we consider that the problem is the guy calling the plays.. in that he gets taken to school against better defensive coordinators? Is Dak a part of that? Absolutely.. however Dak beat Philly the year they won the Super Bowl.. then swept them the year after.. (though Philly made the playoffs that year anyway) . Also in his first two seasons beat Green Bay at Lambeau and the Steelers at Heinz Field and then beat the Ravens, Bengals and Chiefs at home. I believe those were all playoff teams. The whole "doesn't play well against good teams" problem didn't start until a guy with 1 year of coaching experience took over the offense. Coincidence? Maybe.. but I doubt it.

Nobody is denying that we all want Dak to play better.. but we don't need to be making up false "facts" to support that stance. Dak is good.. he is not great.. He is improving... despite what they self-proclaimed experts here maintain. Dak is already good enough to win a Super Bowl if he is surrounded by a good enough team. Which makes him exactly like every QB who has ever played. Matthew Stafford didn't suddenly morph into the greatest QB that ever lived because he went to L.A. He's the same guy.. witness his attempt to throw the game away against San Francisco. If Tart could catch a ball that hit him in the chest everybody would be talking about how bad Stafford choked.. and we would have watch the 49ers in the Super Bowl. The Cowboys as a team are not good enough to win a Super Bowl.. no matter who you put at QB.. they can't pass block and they can't run block.. and their defense can't stop the run.. Until that gets fixed we're not seeing this team do anything in the playoffs. Making it all about the QB was is and always will be the territory of softheads.

Dak played great against the Bucs last year first game of the year with little to no offseason throwing the ball. Miraculous performance against the Champs. Another great game was the first in years to throw for over 400 yards on a Bellicheck defense.

These Dak turds cant argue their way out of a paper bag.

And by the way those were both with Kellen Moore as the OC. In fact, the Cowboys offense has actually gone to the next level with Moore as the OC.

However he clearly ran out of gas last year as his scheme looked predictable and uncreative. Despite the Oline problems.

His decision to keep featuring Zeke last year even while he was hurt and ineffective was a big reason for that. Clearly one of his worst decision of his young career.

 

[G2]

It's great to make as much money as you can, and maximize your leverage BUT these QB's have to understand that in this [HARD CAP] era, their teams are struggling to RE-SIGN & ADD players that can help them WIN.

Just like when he made less than a million per year.

 

[visionary]

and being this is the last year on Lamar Jackson contract the Ravens will be faced with paying Jackson who will be looking at top money. Dak will be further down the ladder.

snd by the time he is around 10-12 his contract will be up and his homies will be clamoring to pay him again though he will have done little to nothing

 

[CowboyRoy]

A few points about the bolded....

1. You can say that about an awful lot of qbs in this league right now. It is en vogue to draft these type of players.
2. Dak has worked on and developed to an Elite level (IMO) his ability to throw the football in the pocket. It is almost remarkable what he has been able to do to transform his game at the NFL level. What you see as "his rookie season being his best season" is not at all accurate. He was the absolute bus driver that all of the "qb experts" portend that he is now when it couldn't be further from the truth. Guys who can't throw, guys who can't read defenses, guys who make bad decisions, guys who are bus drivers, do NOT get to throw the ball 600 times in a season. They just don't.

Until people understand that Dak has gone through a metamorphosis at the qb position and improved in so many ways at the highest level of the sport, they will never appreciate what we have in this player.

Period.

Dak has proven that if you give him time to throw, he can play at an elite level.

However I don't see him as a guy has that elite craftiness and savvy to move around the pocket like Brady and Mahomes can do. He just isn't there.

Those two guys are good enough to play elite without an elite line. Dak needs a great line. I don't believe he needs a great run game to be successful. It helps any QB. But he needs that line.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why do you care what he's getting paid? They're under the cap and not spending it.

Some seem to think if they can pay the QB less, they can get more All Pros. Really?

Which stellar players have the Cowboys lost because of what they pay the QB? Or even the top 5 paid players?

Cooper, Collins and Williams weren't just about money. Gregory saved them from making yet another stupid mistake.

The problem with the Cowboys is not money; it is evaluation and establishing value.

The going rate for the franchise QB will continue to climb and this year is even more critical because of the lack of QB talent in the draft. Jackson, Herbert and Murray coming up next. AZ has a real tough decision to make. Pay Murray or do what at QB?

thank you. I have argued this very exact point a 100 times.

none of these pundits can tell me which FA we wanted to sign and didn't or couldn't because of the contract....they just never ever answer that question....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Spot on In regards to Rayne Dakota Presscott . Unfortunately, Jerry will give him another extention shortly. Good enough QB to compete within the division and that's good enough for Jerry!!!!!!!!!

hey, ticket prices went up by 18%....so Jerry is doing somethign right....more profits is the goal, not championships

 

[CowboyRoy]

And the only people who don’t think he’s top 10 are bozos like you.

NFL players, coaches and execs will be polled again this offseason, and each group will rank Dak in their top 10.... AGAIN.

You don’t know football.

Who is the roll you keep smacking around the board? I must have him on ignore.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Prescott puts his toilet paper on the holder wrong.

that's why I can't wipe my arse clean properly...dang it.....