Prescott Pre Draft Article

[pitt33]

Why do we have to regurgitate the same stuff about this player?

Must be a bye week.

Anyways, we’re stuck with him. For the foreseeable future Dak Prescott is the starter and the Jones boys will see to it. They love him. At least the old man does.

So sit back everyone and enjoy the ride.

It’s going to be a bumpy one.

That is almost a certainty.

 

[visionary]

After watching all the film I will argue that Dak is clearly much better now than he was in college. His strength then, as now, is his ability to run and pick up the first down when there is nothing open downfield. He is also clearly more accurate than he was in college. That doesn't mean his is an accurate passer now.

First, let's give props where they are deserved. Dak may be inaccurate but he doesn't throw many INTs. Oddly, many of his INTs come on balls tipped by his own receivers. Unfortunate but at the same time the result of inaccurate passes - should have been caught, but Dak makes the plays more difficult for the receivers.

The part that concerns me is its clear Dak still throws to the receivers rather than to where they will be. This keeps them from picking up yardage after the catch. It also concerns me that he is slow to make decisions and get rid of the ball. Dal waits too long to throw it and by the time he does, the receiver who was open is no longer open. Defenses have learned to take away Dak's running lanes and when he has nowhere to escape and he has to throw the football he is simply not good enough to make the defense pay. He can win in the NFL as we have all seen, but his greatest asset is still his ability to run.

I didn't think the tipped ball interceptions are bad luck. When you are inaccurate your WRs will tip balls and they will get intercepted

 

[irishline]

You are what you are. Winner in high school, winner in college, and to date winner in the NFL.

Dak was a 1st to 2nd round QB NFL talent after getting MSU to a no.1 ranking and downgraded to a 2nd to 4th round QB NFL talent after losing that no.1 ranking and getting pulled over for drunk driving right before the NFL draft (charges dismissed). But where was MSU before Dak Prescott (4-8, 5-7, 9-4, 7-6) and what was MSU with Dak Prescott (8-5, 7-6, 10-3, 9-4), and where is MSU after Dak Prescott (6-7, 9-4, and now 4-3). You are what you are.

He beat up on weaker teams in college. It happens all the time. By the way, what exactly did he win in college?

As a starter he went 13-10 in the SEC, and he went 4-11 against top 25 competition. They never won the SEC West, not to mention the SEC Championship itself.

He had a great 2 game run to get to number 1. Then MSU beat a 5-7 Kentucky team, a 6-7 Arkansas team, and Non-Major Tennessee-Martin (??) team. Following that they folded and lost 3 of 4 games all to teams ranked but ranked below MSU.

Tim Tebow won a state championship in high school, won two college national championships, and went 7-4 and won a playoff game in his second season with Denver. Does that make him a great quarterback?

Yes, you are what you are in some senses. However, sometime how you got where you are is just as important (if not more so).

Good kid, but the reports on him before the draft were and, unfortunately, still are accurate. Like I said I root for him, and hope he and those around him are able to help him improve, but right now he is what he is (and was before we drafted him).

 

[LACowboysFan1]

he did the QB guru/coach thing this year and it appears he got worse.

What quarterback guru? Kellen Moore? Who's ever said he's a "guru"? If by "guru" you mean, per one Miriam Webster definition: a person with knowledge or expertise : EXPERT - a computer guru.

Guru as in a "leader" doesn't get it in the NFL for quarterbacks...

 

[Brax]

What quarterback guru? Kellen Moore? Who's ever said he's a "guru"? If by "guru" you mean, per one Miriam Webster definition: a person with knowledge or expertise : EXPERT - a computer guru.

Guru as in a "leader" doesn't get it in the NFL for quarterbacks...

read the following. Not sure were you got KM as a guru, surely not from my post.
http://www.espn.com/blog/nfceast/po...tt-hopes-a-change-in-mechanics-yields-results

 

[LACowboysFan1]

He beat up on weaker teams in college. It happens all the time. By the way, what exactly did he win in college?

As a starter he went 13-10 in the SEC, and he went 4-11 against top 25 competition. They never won the SEC West, not to mention the SEC Championship itself.

He had a great 2 game run to get to number 1. Then MSU beat a 5-7 Kentucky team, a 6-7 Arkansas team, and Non-Major Tennessee-Martin (??) team. Following that they folded and lost 3 of 4 games all to teams ranked but ranked below MSU.

Tim Tebow won a state championship in high school, won two college national championships, and went 7-4 and won a playoff game in his second season with Denver. Does that make him a great quarterback?

Yes, you are what you are in some senses. However, sometime how you got where you are is just as important (if not more so).

Good kid, but the reports on him before the draft were and, unfortunately, still are accurate. Like I said I root for him, and hope he and those around him are able to help him improve, but right now he is what he is (and was before we drafted him).

All true, but you also have to see just why he was 4-11 against top 25 competition as well. If he has the tools but didn't have the supporting players or the coaching, then the 4-11 record wouldn't necessarily be all, or mostly, on him. Other than Dak, the only two offensive players drafted from Mississippi State from the 2015 team were Malcom Johnson and Josh Robinson (who?). Both 6th rounders. (Please spare me the Tom Brady-was-a-6th round-pick comments, that's so far from the usual 6th rounder). Hard to be successful against the top 25 with less than stellar players.

So the question is can Dak get better? Are all his problems solvable with better coaching and work on his part? If not, can he at least get enough better so that with a top offensive line, top defense and a top back like Zeke the team can compete for a SB?

For me, I don't know, never been an NFL quarterback coach, so that's why I'm giving him this year, he has to show marked improvement in accuracy and decision making. So far I've not seen much, though the play calling is so inconsistent it's hard to tell. But I don't think Rush or White is going to pull a Brady and come in and win a SB, so we're stuck with Dak for this year. Hopefully we're not going to be stuck in a revolving "wait until next year" door, but who knows? That was the history of the late 60's Cowboys, so I've seen it before, just have to hope this team turns out like those teams, eventually you get to championship status...

 

[dfense]

Why post this? This is like someone telling you your wife wasn't a virgin 3 years after you married her.

Yeah, but has the wife gotten worse over time?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

"Not sure were you got KM as a guru, surely not from my post"

You said, and I quote "he did the QB guru/coach thing this year and it appears he got worse."

Who else has he had this year? Isn't Moore the quarterback coach? If not, which guru were you referring to?

 

[BoysForLife]

Yeah. Great comparison.
Dak = Brady.

LOL

 

[BoysForLife]

epic troll, well played

No--He's serious.

 

[waving monkey]

Why post this? This is like someone telling you your wife wasn't a virgin 3 years after you married her.

campaigning

 

[risco]

The proliferation of read-option offenses has allowed for more college quarterbacks to put up strong numbers and wins. Dak Prescott is a solid college quarterback that has led Mississippi State to uncharted waters as a football program. However the baseline skills needed at the next level are not consistently shown in his game.........https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2015/11/04/dak-prescott/

Interesting- I wouldn't mind seeing Tom Brady's pre-draft notes.

 

[Falco78]

Which forum has drunks at 10:45am? I will volunteer to moderate it if they agree to leave us alone and lift a few filters..

I gotta respect that!

 

[Cannibal_Cowboy]

I'm so glad they were just as wrong about Dak as they were about Brady!
He's going to lead us to just as many Super Bowls too!!!
Hoo-ray!!!!

 

[Falco78]

Coaching may be abandoning him from improving upon these problems, but he is what he is at this point. Here is to hoping they (Dak and those around him) find a way to correct it.

Coaching?!?!?! What is this coaching thing you speak of?

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Mother time is undefeated

Yeah, but has the wife gotten worse over time?

 

[JustChip]

Yeah. Great comparison.
Dak = Brady.

LOL

I didn't take that as comparing Brady the player with Dak the player, just pointing out the fact that pre-draft analysis is not an exact science. If it were, you would not have players like Brady and Richard Sherman drafted in latter rounds. And there would be no first round busts.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Interesting- I wouldn't mind seeing Tom Brady's pre-draft notes.

Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in '95. Saw limited action in '96 and '97 and started the past two years. Completed 3 of 5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in '96, 12-15-103-0-0 in '97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in '98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in '99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.

Tom Brady Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.

 

[BoysForLife]

I didn't take that as comparing Brady the player with Dak the player, just pointing out the fact that pre-draft analysis is not an exact science. If it were, you would not have players like Brady and Richard Sherman drafted in latter rounds. And there would be no first round busts.

There's absolutely some truth to that.

Here's the difference. By year 3, it was fairly clear that the scouts had missed on Brady and the guy was a horse you could ride. By year 3, Richard Sherman was a 1st team all pro with 20 Career INTs. They showed quickly that the scouts had been wrong.

In year 3 of the Dak Train, there's still a lot more doubt than anything else. At this point, a lot of people (rightly so) are thinking the scouts had this one right.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

This is why Prescott fell to the 4th round. If Dak was an accurate QB he would have been an early first rounder. Sadly you can’t teach talent and Dak doesn’t have the passing talent required to be a great NFL QB.