Prescott vs. Romo Playoffs

[TheMarathonContinues]

QB's always get the credit...or blame. People are breaking their backs protecting Dak from it.

Anybody remember who else didnt; win a super bowl on Marino's team? We sure remember him not doing it.

People try and slander Marino but he played in a SB. Took his team to a SB. He doesn't belong in the guys who choked and never made it far in the SB. Hell Matt Ryan and Cam Newton either. Unfortunately, Jay Cutler, Phillip Rivers, Romo........

 

[SultanOfSix]

Ok. This discussion is pointless lol. Just talking around in circles. You're not understanding what i'm saying and i'm not understanding what you're saying so it is what it is. This is always a discussion that brings emotions out of guys because Romo was a polarizing QB in Dallas. A lot of rewriting history has gone on when it comes to him post career.

I understand what you're saying fine. You say you don't blame Romo for the further advancement in the playoffs, but the content of what your write contradicts it. "Not stepping up" is and underhanded way of saying he just wasn't good enough. But not good enough to do what? To put the team's deficiencies on his back and carry them to the promise land? Do you think Michael Jordan would have won all his championships without Scottie Pippen or John Paxton hitting those threes? Stats have been provided for the defenses he's had, or the offensive lines he's worked behind, specific examples of plays that he's made but other players did not, and much more. Organizations from the top down win championships, not QBs.

It's the "Dak stans" as they're called that keep up bringing Tony Romo to put him down and elevate Dak. What does Dak's play right now, whether good or bad, have to do with Tony's play years ago with a different team, organizational management, coaches, players, etc.? Absolutely nothing. The only way to compare the two would be to put them on the same exact team with those conditions and have a competition, which was only possible in 2016, but JJ and the coach still in training didn't allow it for stupid reasons already discussed ad nauseum.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I understand what you're saying fine. You say you don't blame Romo for the further advancement in the playoffs, but the content of what your write contradicts it. "Not stepping up" is and underhanded way of saying he just wasn't good enough. But not good enough to do what? To put the team's deficiencies on his back and carry them to the promise land? Do you think Michael Jordan would have won all his championships without Scottie Pippen or John Paxton hitting those threes? Stats have been provided for the defenses he's had, or the offensive lines he's worked behind, specific examples of plays that he's made but other players did not, and much more. Organizations from the top down win championships, not QBs.

It's the "Dak stans" as they're called that keep up bringing Tony Romo to put him down and elevate Dak. What does Dak's play right now, whether good or bad, have to do with Tony's play years ago with a different team, organizational management, coaches, players, etc.? Absolutely nothing. The only way to compare the two would be to put them on the same exact team with those conditions and have a competition, which was only possible in 2016, but JJ and the coach still in training didn't allow it for stupid reasons already discussed ad nauseum.

I don't know what MJ would've did without Pippen and Paxson because we never saw it but we did see what they did when MJ left. NOTHING. Made the playoffs and couldn't get over the hump without him.

I don't know where the confusion comes from. I've said it time and time again. I don't blame Romo for father advancement because I knew what he was. People think he was Tom Brady being held back by the front office. I do not think that. I think Romo was a good QB. Not great but somewhere in between good and above average. Far from bad.

So yeah he needed more help around him. He was why we didn't further. It wasn't nothing against him. He just wasn't good enough to overcome the flaws he had. Some guys can do it. Some guys can't. He couldn't. Doesn't make him bad.

And people are just in their feelings. The same people upset that people are "putting down" Romo(stating truths are putting him down I guess....) have no issue with Zeke being put down or Dak being put down so I don't know why its a issue when Romo is involved.

2014 and 2016 were essentially the same team. Let it go. The team wanted Dak and Romo got benched. Dak in the playoffs played better than anytime we saw Romo in the playoffs. The results would've been the same. First round exit just like we did with Romo every time.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I don't know what MJ would've did without Pippen and Paxson because we never saw it but we did see what they did when MJ left. NOTHING. Made the playoffs and couldn't get over the hump without him.

I don't know where the confusion comes from. I've said it time and time again. I don't blame Romo for father advancement because I knew what he was. People think he was Tom Brady being held back by the front office. I do not think that. I think Romo was a good QB. Not great but somewhere in between good and above average. Far from bad.

So yeah he needed more help around him. He was why we didn't further. It wasn't nothing against him. He just wasn't good enough to overcome the flaws he had. Some guys can do it. Some guys can't. He couldn't. Doesn't make him bad.

And people are just in their feelings. The same people upset that people are "putting down" Romo(stating truths are putting him down I guess....) have no issue with Zeke being put down or Dak being put down so I don't know why its a issue when Romo is involved.

2014 and 2016 were essentially the same team. Let it go. The team wanted Dak and Romo got benched. Dak in the playoffs played better than anytime we saw Romo in the playoffs. The results would've been the same. First round exit just like we did with Romo every time.

I see.

He wasn't good enough and needed more help around him. So how do you measure that except for the fact that they didn't advance? What were the flaws he had that kept them from advancing? How do people overcome their flaws except by removing them? Name one person who thought he was Tom Brady. You're just throwing out vague claims and platitudes that mean nothing.

If Dak was on those teams, would he have been "good enough" to overcome the lack of help on those teams? If this team advances further is it because of Dak, or is it because the team has been built to be "good enough" for Dak? These are rhetorical by the way.

2014 and 2016 were not "essentially" the same teams. And talk about missing the point about me mentioning the 2016 season.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I see.

He wasn't good enough and needed more help around him. So how do you measure that except for the fact that they didn't advance? What were the flaws he had that kept them from advancing? How do people overcome their flaws except by removing them? Name one person who thought he was Tom Brady. You're just throwing out vague claims and platitudes that mean nothing.

If Dak was on those teams, would he have been "good enough" to overcome the lack of help on those teams? If this team advances further is it because of Dak, or is it because the team has been built to be "good enough" for Dak? These are rhetorical by the way.

2014 and 2016 were not "essentially" the same teams. And talk about missing the point about me mentioning the 2016 season.

If in 2007 Dak played like he did against the Buccs? He would've been a SB champion. Same goes for 2014. Hell if he would've played like this last year he might've been a SB Champion.

What were the differences between the 2014 and 2016? Explain?

And I didn't miss any point your only point is defending Romo at all costs. And that's cool i'm here for it.

I use to give Romo and Dak the same excuses.....ahh man they need more talent and better coaches around them. Which is true. But then it hit me.....Romo never had his best game of the season in the playoffs. Dak either. I can no longer give these guys the excuse unless they lose playing a great game. Like Romo in the Bronco's game....he gave all he had. Yeah he threw a interception to seal the game but he put up 40 plus and lost. That's a prime example of being the best player on the field and not being good enough.

 

[CowboyFrog]

The Romo hating fans were as bad or worse than the Dak hating fans are now and equally as misguided.

The problem is They basically let other posters shove them into this view, Romo fans are pissed about 2016 so attack Dak, Dak fans even ones that liked Romo are now on the defensive.... Again dont let some idiot on here take your joy of this team. Romo will find joy if Dak wins one for Dallas... those that cant let go will just have to deal with it. We are extremley lucky in both cases, Romo and Dak both greatly have outplayed thier ceiling.

 

[Nav22]

Giants defense didn’t make Romo look like crap calm down lol. We have to stop doing this lol. Y’all are trying to rewrite history.

LOLLLLLL

Eli Manning did that to Romo all by himself?

And then Eli did that to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all by himself?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

LOLLLLLL

Eli Manning did that to Romo all by himself?

And then Eli did that to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all by himself?

LOLLLLLL

Eli Manning did that to Romo all by himself?

And then Eli did that to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all by himself?

What did the Giants defense do? Romo threw them a interception in the 1st half and the corner dropped it. They had some sacks where Romo should've thrown the football away....the Giants shut down the Pats but not the Cowboys. Cowboys all game committed stupid penalties, took stupid sacks, dropped footballs......this is why I say y'all try to rewrite history because how y'all remember this game is much different than reality. Everyone came out of that game thinking the Cowboys choked.

 

[DFWJC]

LOLLLLLL

Eli Manning did that to Romo all by himself?

And then Eli did that to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all by himself?

I swear, with some of these threads, I think there are people in this forum trying to make Cowboy fans who respected Romo root against this current team, just to not have to hear more garbage like this thread.

I say, sorry, it won't work.

They can try all they want to divide us, but we are still Cowboys fans who know this game is a team sport.

Go Cowboys

 

[DFWJC]

What did the Giants defense do? Romo threw them a interception in the 1st half and the corner dropped it. They had some sacks where Romo should've thrown the football away....the Giants shut down the Pats but not the Cowboys. Cowboys all game committed stupid penalties, took stupid sacks, dropped footballs......this is why I say y'all try to rewrite history because how y'all remember this game is much different than reality. Everyone came out of that game thinking the Cowboys choked.

Why are you harping so much on a game 16 years ago in Romo's first full year as a starter?
We came up short. It sucked.

I mean, what is the point of this thread, period?
It just seems here to divide us?

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

Why do this?

RTS
Romo Derangement Syndrome

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why are you harping so much on a game 16 years ago in Romo's first full year as a starter?
We came up short. It sucked.

I mean, what is the point of this thread, period?
It just seems here to divide us?

I didn't harp on anything I replied to a post that insinuated we lost because the Giants were some juggernaut and they weren't. Eli made some key throws and the defense had some key pressure moments but the reason it gets brought back up or why I "harp" on it is when fans lie and try and rewrite history. The Cowboys choked that game. The Giants weren't great that game.

Its a forum. You guys may not like it because I guess between some of the truth maybe Romo is getting some slander thrown his way but who cares? This current team has slander. Hell I read on this site Troy Aikman wasn't as good as Romo. Slander towards a SB winning QB. If Troy can get it so can Aikman.

I don't see the big deal. Nobody has said Romo sucked. Just that he wasn't good enough. It shouldn't cause "division". Especially when i've been on this site for years and have watched current players on the team get slandered by fans simply because they didn't like them or they wanted to be right. ..now that Romo is getting brought up and Dak has played well now its time to stop "harping". Naw....I don't see that happening. Its a football discussion that shouldn't warrant emotions getting involved since we are all one and not divided.

 

[DallasEast]

 

[DFWJC]

One more playoff win and Dak will be more accomplished than Romo. I do know that.

I think you mean the teams Dak led would have accomplished more.
The same would apply for any QB.

Ex.
Whoever was QBing the Pats in the SB vs the Giants when his kicker missed the 40-yarder for the win would also be more accomplished...though he would've done exactly nothing different.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Its natural that the guy Dak replaced will be compared to Romo. Anyone that think that won't happen is just fooling themselves. The only reason people didn't compare Romo to Troy was because of the rings and the crap in between Troy and Romo. Romo surpassed anything those guys could ever do...If Dak were to get a ring he'd immediately compared to Troy. Its not Troy slander its just the nature of the beast.

Some people just can't be realistic on Romo. A good QB who had a good career who had less than stellar performances in the playoffs. No shame in that.

What, in your opinion...was his problem in the playoffs?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think you mean the teams Dak led would have accomplished more.
The same would apply for any QB.

Ex.
Whoever was QBing the Pats in the SB vs the Giants when his kicker missed the 40-yarder for the win would also be more accomplished...though he would've done exactly nothing different.

Pretty "difficult" concept for some to grasp.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

People try and slander Marino but he played in a SB. Took his team to a SB. He doesn't belong in the guys who choked and never made it far in the SB. Hell Matt Ryan and Cam Newton either. Unfortunately, Jay Cutler, Phillip Rivers, Romo........

Oh yeah...that is right...he DID play in a super bowl.

Okay..whatever.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Its natural that the guy Dak replaced will be compared to Romo. Anyone that think that won't happen is just fooling themselves. The only reason people didn't compare Romo to Troy was because of the rings and the crap in between Troy and Romo. Romo surpassed anything those guys could ever do...If Dak were to get a ring he'd immediately compared to Troy. Its not Troy slander its just the nature of the beast.

Some people just can't be realistic on Romo. A good QB who had a good career who had less than stellar performances in the playoffs. No shame in that.

"good". Tope five of his time.

"In fact, if you compare Romo’s numbers to those of Staubach and Aikman, he blows them out of the water."
Let’s start with completion percentage. Romo’s career percentage is at 64.6. Aikman’s is 61.5 and Staubach’s 57. Today’s game might pass more, but that wouldn’t help Romo in this category.

How about touchdowns? Romo has 208 career passing touchdowns, while Aikman had only 165. Romo’s record in a single season is 36, which he accomplished in 2007. Staubach’s high was 27 and Aikman’s 23.

Romo’s disparity in quarterback rating might be the most surprising. His career rating is 95.8, good enough for fifth in league history. He’s ahead of players like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner and Joe Montana."

Just for starters. So maybe it's OTHER people that "just can't be realistic"....eh?

 

[Darkhound]

Dak has tied Romo's playoff wins in half the number of years. Romo never advanced beyond the division around. If Dak can get one more playoff win and advance to the NFC championship game, the Prescott-Romo debate can be put to bed forever.

I am a firm believer that ROMO was ALSO an average QB But but but... ROMO had one of the worst lies and fiascos in NFL HISTORY... that being JASON THE CLAPPER GARRET. And Romo never had some verr poorly talented teams.. Dak has had more luck

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He got off easy. Imagine saying he wasn't good enough to win a SB being "overly critical" and "not appreciated"...wait until he seems the stuff they say about Dak lol. Imagine having a tv analyst say your weak because you said you suffered from depression lol.