Prescott vs. Romo Playoffs

[TheMarathonContinues]

What, in your opinion...was his problem in the playoffs?

I change my opinion on this every year. As of right now I think his issue was he never played passed his potential. Cowboys needed him to play over his head like Dak just did against the Buccs. His performances were just ok. Every single time it was ok. Eli....and I can't stand bringing him up over and over again because i'm not a fan but when the playoffs came around he played far better than he would in the regular season. And I could be wrong on Romo. Maybe he played up to his potential in those playoff games. Maybe that was his ceiling. But I for one always thought he was better than Eli and had the ability to step up to the challenge like he did against the Bronco's that one year.

 

[DFWJC]

"good". Tope five of his time.

"In fact, if you compare Romo’s numbers to those of Staubach and Aikman, he blows them out of the water."
Let’s start with completion percentage. Romo’s career percentage is at 64.6. Aikman’s is 61.5 and Staubach’s 57. Today’s game might pass more, but that wouldn’t help Romo in this category.

How about touchdowns? Romo has 208 career passing touchdowns, while Aikman had only 165. Romo’s record in a single season is 36, which he accomplished in 2007. Staubach’s high was 27 and Aikman’s 23.

Romo’s disparity in quarterback rating might be the most surprising. His career rating is 95.8, good enough for fifth in league history. He’s ahead of players like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner and Joe Montana."

Just for starters. So maybe it's OTHER people that "just can't be realistic"....eh?

As you know, numbers continue to go up each decade.

As for passer ratings, the line is almost a perfect direct slope upward from the 70s until now.
A 107 rating now is about the same as a 100 rating 10 years ago and maybe a 92 or 93 20 years ago.
Romo's career 97.1 ratings would be about a 103 or 104 average for a player who started his career a decade later.

Btw, if you adjust for time, Roder Staubach would have one of the highest passer ratings of all time.

Without an adjustment, you have Marcus Mariota as being better than Dan Marion....lol.
Abslutely have to scale the numbers.

 

[DallasEast]

He got off easy.

It has been six years and people are still overly criticizing him for everything from dropping a slick K-ball to his color analysis in the television booth but he has gotten off "easy".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Oh yeah...that is right...he DID play in a super bowl.

Okay..whatever.

He did play in a SB...not his fault his team wasn't good enough to win. He played in 18 playoff games...let's not even bring up Marino. I get he's the go for people to justify losing but he ain't it. He has 18 playoff games under his belt.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It has been six years and people are still overly criticizing him for everything from dropping a slick K-ball to his color analysis in the television booth but he has gotten off "easy".

Compared to Dak? For sure.....they both got it bad of course I guess that comes with being America's team. I just find it funny we are pretending he's "overly criticized"...especially on this site lol. How much should he be criticized for a 13 year career and 2-4 playoff record.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He did play in a SB...not his fault his team wasn't good enough to win. He played in 18 playoff games...let's not even bring up Marino. I get he's the go for people to justify losing but he ain't it. He has 18 playoff games under his belt.

It rarely is the QB's fault. But you don't give Romo the same consideration.

I'm not using Marino to justify anything. Except one: The point you just now made...better than I could have, thanks.

 

[KJJ]

Yup, not to mention how lucky we've been at QB as a franchise.

Not many franchises have had the stability at QB the Cowboys have had over the years.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

As you know, numbers continue to go up each decade.

As for passer ratings, the line is almost a perfect direct slope upward from the 70s until now.
A 107 rating now is about the same as a 100 rating 10 years ago and maybe a 92 or 93 20 years ago.
Romo's career 97.1 ratings would be about a 103 or 104 average for a player who started his career a decade later.

Btw, if you adjust for time, Roder Staubach would have one of the highest passer ratings of all time.

Without an adjustment, you have Marcus Mariota as being better than Dan Marion....lol.
Abslutely have to scale the numbers.

Yes...thank you for making that point. I think we have agreed in the past about stats being abused. They just don't tell the whole story, do they?

Like Zeke's stats, for example.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Not many franchises have had the stability at QB the Cowboys have had over the years.

The source that I cited said exactly the same thing!

"The Dallas Cowboys are one of the most successful franchises in the NFL. One big reason for their long-term success has been the play of some outstanding quarterbacks."

Of course, this was before Dak but it still to this day applies.

Not sure if I can post this...so admin be advised (I just want to source my info)

Some issue with links...sorry.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

"good". Tope five of his time.

"In fact, if you compare Romo’s numbers to those of Staubach and Aikman, he blows them out of the water."
Let’s start with completion percentage. Romo’s career percentage is at 64.6. Aikman’s is 61.5 and Staubach’s 57. Today’s game might pass more, but that wouldn’t help Romo in this category.

How about touchdowns? Romo has 208 career passing touchdowns, while Aikman had only 165. Romo’s record in a single season is 36, which he accomplished in 2007. Staubach’s high was 27 and Aikman’s 23.

Romo’s disparity in quarterback rating might be the most surprising. His career rating is 95.8, good enough for fifth in league history. He’s ahead of players like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner and Joe Montana."

Just for starters. So maybe it's OTHER people that "just can't be realistic"....eh?

Ughh....I like Romo too but some of y'all make it hard to criticize him and not come across as a hater......

.....but how on earth are you going compare Staubach and Aikman's stats to Romo when they played in a completely different eras?

And I never ONCE questioned Romo's regular season stats. Not once. But what does his playoff stats look like how do they compare to Brees, Brady, etc.? Let's start there.

 

[DallasEast]

Compared to Dak? For sure.....they both got it bad of course I guess that comes with being America's team.

Not taking the Prescott bait, just like this thread, that pulls folks willingly down rabbit holes every day on this site.

I just find it funny we are pretending he's "overly criticized"...especially on this site lol. How much should he be criticized for a 13 year career and 2-4 playoff record.

lol @ "pretending."

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Ughh....I like Romo too but some of y'all make it hard to criticize him and not come across as a hater......

.....but how on earth are you going compare Staubach and Aikman's stats to Romo when they played in a completely different eras?

And I never ONCE questioned Romo's regular season stats. Not once. But what does his playoff stats look like how do they compare to Brees, Brady, etc.? Let's start there.

Sorry buddy...not sure how else to show ROmo's value. ANd..it wasn't me that dug up those stats. I just quoted an article. I think you really do hate Romo....you can;t even read an article about him without being disgusted.

Weird.

I guess I will have to PM you if you want to see where I got it. 'zone won;t let me even paste the site let alone link it.I am sure you aren;t interested in seeing where Romo actually does rank. How else can you judge it? Wins? "team game" so that won;t work. Gotta use stats man. With caution of course.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It rarely is the QB's fault. But you don't give Romo the same consideration.

I'm not using Marino to justify anything. Except one: The point you just now made...better than I could have, thanks.

I literally have said NUMEROUS times Romo wasn't good enough to win with the team surrounding him....i've said that numerous times now. He needed what Brock Purdy has right now. All Pro's all over the field....well he had it in 2007 but just one year. Needed a tops defense.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Sorry buddy...not sure how else to show ROmo's value. ANd..it wasn't me that dug up those stats. I just quoted an article. I think you really do hate Romo....you can;t even read an article about him without being disgusted.

Weird.

Ok the article isn't coming up for me. It looked like you just quoted stats...I didn't see a link to the article on my side.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not taking the Prescott bait, just like this thread, that pulls folks willingly down rabbit holes every day on this site.
lol @ "pretending."

There's no bait lol. Dak and Romo both get criticized probably harsher than any QB's lol....not sure why that's a controversial statement.

 

[DallasEast]

There's no bait lol. Dak and Romo both get criticized probably harsher than any QB's lol....not sure why that's a controversial statement.

Compared to Dak?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Ok the article isn't coming up for me. It looked like you just quoted stats...I didn't see a link to the article on my side.

It won;t let me link...I even just tried to paste the addy and makes a big blank space.

From bleach report where Romo ranks among cowboys QBs.

I think I might have over reacted when you admitted Romo was a "good" QB. You seem to detest people think he was better than "good".

It's fine...we disagree on it. You did never answer (that I saw) when I asked you to define his faults in the playoffs.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Oh yeah I did say that lol. It wasn't a trap but yeah you're right lol.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Oh yeah I did say that lol. It wasn't a trap but yeah you're right lol.

DallasEast is not a man to mess with!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It won;t let me link...I even just tried to paste the addy and makes a big blank space.

From bleach report where Romo ranks among cowboys QBs.

I think I might have over reacted when you admitted Romo was a "good" QB. You seem to detest people think he was better than "good".

It's fine...we disagree on it. You did never answer (that I saw) when I asked you to define his faults in the playoffs.

I don't detest it. If people can come up with legit reasons for why he was better than good then go for it. But the stuff i'm seeing is insane.

And believe it or not its proabbly recency bias me saying Romo wasn't good enough in the playoffs.

It took me to see what Dak, Purdy and Daniel Jones did for me to come to grips that Romo should've been better in the playoffs at times. You need that moment where you play over your head. Some guys don't. Some guys teams are just so stacked they can just go with the flow and have a mid-game and be ok. Some can't. Cowboys had some good teams under Romo....but he needed more to win.

I answered your question. He wasn't capable of taking his game to another level. That was one of his faults. Few examples:

We know of the Dez catch. We know it was a great pass, great catch....somehow got called not a catch. But let's revisit this play. It was 4th and 2 with 4 minutes left on the clock. That was a low percentage throw that should've counted but didn't. Something shorter would've been smarter there.

Let's go to his 2007 season.....we remember the key Crayton drop. But Romo also overthrew Crayton on what would've been a touched in the 4th quarter. He also took some key sacks in the 4th quarter of that game.

These were not his best games. Now go to the Bronco's game and see how great he played in that game aside from the 4th quarter interception.