Prescott's worst game since his return?

[5Stars]

Your not concerned with an interception or two a game?

No...chit happens. It could be the wind.

 

[TwentyOne]

I want more "Worst" games that have 3 passing Tds and a 100 rating.

You guys are really pathetic...lol

"Worst" game doesnt mean "bad" game.

Think before you drink before you drive us mad.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Sorry but do you have some proof of this? Why post something false and use it to make an argument? I don't understand this sort of thing. The Cowboys have been the best 3rd down team in the league since Dak came back.. We know that dismal first game is still dragging his numbers down but they've all been trending upward since he returned. I'm sure he'll find his place among the league leaders by year's end. But for now he's gotta wear the bad numbers that skew him down. All while winning fabulously.. I'll take it. He's gotten his team two wins against teams that would make the playoffs if the season ended today in the last three games. I'm not sure there is any logical reason not to be happy about that.

Ronnie sorry it’s my fault. You didn’t have any context because I forgot to quote the reply I made so here it is.

The exact stat was on Colin Cowherds show last week. I’m pretty sure the research staff on a National show does their homework. Also here’s what else I said and none of it was bashing Dak they are just all true observations.

Dak has loose mechanics which result in poor throws. He just does. He gets away with it sometimes but it can catch up eventually.

I said he’s tenacious and is winning but the Giants, Lions, Colt and Texans next week are not good barometers.

The test will be in January against the best defense in all of football in San Francisco and on a cold Grey day in Philly in January where every possession matters.

Then ask yourself do you trust Dak in the 4th quarter throwing the ball possibly coming from behind under pressure. Then ask yourself do you trust the coaching staff?

That’s all it is and if you do great - I’m just not sure what you would base it on in January… in the playoffs.

The last time we played a great game in the playoffs in 26 years was 2016 vs the Packers and had it taken away.

So the bottom line for me is no - I do not trust the Cowboys ie, Dak and McCarthy in the playoffs.

It’s become cliched but Ive got nothing else to hang my hat on and hope is not a plan.

 

[kramskoi]

Ronnie sorry it’s my fault. You didn’t have any context because I forgot to quote the reply I made so here it is.

The exact stat was on Colin Cowherds show last week. I’m pretty sure the research staff on a National show does their homework. Also here’s what else I said and none of it was bashing Dak they are just all true observations.

Dak has loose mechanics which result in poor throws. He just does. He gets away with it sometimes but it can catch up eventually.

I said he’s tenacious and is winning but the Giants, Lions, Colt and Texans next week are not good barometers.

The test will be in January against the best defense in all of football in San Francisco and on a cold Grey day in Philly in January where every possession matters.

Then ask yourself do you trust Dak in the 4th quarter throwing the ball possibly coming from behind under pressure. Then ask yourself do you trust the coaching staff?

That’s all it is and if you do great - I’m just not sure what you would base it on in January… in the playoffs.

The last time we played a great game in the playoffs in 26 years was 2016 vs the Packers and had it taken away.

So the bottom line for me is no - I do not trust the Cowboys ie, Dak and McCarthy in the playoffs.

It’s become cliched but Ive got nothing else to hang my hat on and hope is not a plan.

The issue of trust is one I share but I'm not so sure that the top sacks, top pressures, top ppg and top DVOA defense [Dallas [1st] -20.1...49ers [2nd] -15.1]in the league is actually NOT the best. The run defense is certainly the Achilles heel but they corralled Taylor quite nicely until the fourth quarter, when the Colts collapsed miserably. That said, it does remain to be seen how they will fare against Phi and Tenn. But IF they are going to hold the top rushers under 100 yards going forward, they will have taken a step forward in their capabilities.

On the Eagles...every possession will definitely matter. Moreover, it's likely that Dallas will have to beat them TWICE over the next 6 weeks or so. A very sobering thought. If you can get hold of OBJ and get him on the field I think chances are better. Those games could definitely devolve into shootouts.

Many of the Cowboys content creators are rather dismissive of the Eagles. I don't share their opinion. You don't get to 11-1 without being a damn good football team. They will give Dallas all that they can handle and more. Prescott's first half turnovers (should they occur) will likely be punished severely. Just because the Cowboys should be better by Dec 24th doesn't mean that Philly won't also be better.

Finally...the Cowboys had nowhere near the defense in 2014 and 2016 that they have now. That will be important in the dog days of January...that and a good ground game...which they certainly have. I do like that their character is more brutish this year than finesse. But I don't like the slow starts, early turnovers and a still shaky run defense. Commentators would be quick to point out how Dallas struggled against the Colts defense. But this same team held KC and Philly both to just 17 points (with a win against the Chiefs).

The Dallas defense...in spite of our reservations as fans is actually pretty damn good. There might be only one team (San Fran) that wouldn't trade theirs for ours.

 

[nate dizzle]

I'm a huge critic of Dak when he plays badly but I don't think he had a bad game overall. He had a few bad throws. The int and the one that was about 2 yards behind Lamb that the DB just flat out dropped. My issue wasn't his overall body of work, just the slow start. I love that we ended up exploding in the 4th but slow starts like that are very likely to end any playoff run.

This defense is built to run in front. They need to be kept fresh and they need the offense to get points early so the other team gets away from the run. When offenses have to throw against us, and we know it, they're dead in the water.

I have no faith that if we get behind early by a couple scores that this qb/coaching staff will stick with our running game. If we end up having to throw and put it all on Dak, I don't have a lot of trust that he can do it against the playoff defenses that we will face. I'd love for him to prove me wrong on that.

 

[RonnieT24]

Ronnie sorry it’s my fault. You didn’t have any context because I forgot to quote the reply I made so here it is.

The exact stat was on Colin Cowherds show last week. I’m pretty sure the research staff on a National show does their homework. Also here’s what else I said and none of it was bashing Dak they are just all true observations.

Dak has loose mechanics which result in poor throws. He just does. He gets away with it sometimes but it can catch up eventually.

I said he’s tenacious and is winning but the Giants, Lions, Colt and Texans next week are not good barometers.

The test will be in January against the best defense in all of football in San Francisco and on a cold Grey day in Philly in January where every possession matters.

Then ask yourself do you trust Dak in the 4th quarter throwing the ball possibly coming from behind under pressure. Then ask yourself do you trust the coaching staff?

That’s all it is and if you do great - I’m just not sure what you would base it on in January… in the playoffs.

The last time we played a great game in the playoffs in 26 years was 2016 vs the Packers and had it taken away.

So the bottom line for me is no - I do not trust the Cowboys ie, Dak and McCarthy in the playoffs.

It’s become cliched but Ive got nothing else to hang my hat on and hope is not a plan.

I trust Dak and I kinda trust McCarthy.. the guy I don't trust is Moore. Dak was able to bring the Cowboys to the brink of victory against that great 49ers defense while playing on a bad wheel with no running game last season. He put 7 more points up against them than Rodgers did and 3 points less than the Rams. All with Zeke running on one leg, Tyron playing on a gimpy ankle, Collins playing like crap and Williams holding everything in sight. If the ref doesn't bump into him and stop him from getting that play off I really think he lasers the game winner in there to Lamb or Coop. The 49er defense was reeling and he had them right where he wanted them. I just think he's got that gene. But he needs Moore and McCarthy to manage the game better to give him more of a realistic opportunity in situations like that. I just believe if he gets to the playoffs in one piece he's going to light our opponents on fire. He's ready to take that next step. Especially now knowing that he's got this defense and he doesn't have to go for 400 yards and 35 points just to have a chance. A great defense and a running game are a QB's best friend. And he finally has both..

As for the other stuff.. thanks for the context. It underscores why you can't always take what these talking head shows say as gospel. Their job is to get you to watch them, not to always be 100% accurate.

Speaking of accurate.. I am really weary of the whole "mechanics" thing with Dak. The ball gets where it's supposed go 75-80% of the time.. which is consistent with the best throwers in the league. People spend far too much time worrying about "it looks different." Who cares? All I care about is does it get to the receiver way more often than it doesn't. We know he can have some bad throws when his footwork is off. Pretty much ever QB can.. As long as he's completing damn near 70% of his passes I can't find it within me to think he has any more poor throws than any other QB. The official accuracy numbers say he doesn't. We're just Cowboy fans who put his every throw under a microscope. Which is fine to do.. but a little perspective can be a really good tool. Dak's accurate throws numbers are up there with the best in the league so to me all the talk of mechanics is much ado about nothing.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Dak did not play his best game

 

[Risen Star]

I'm a huge critic of Dak when he plays badly but I don't think he had a bad game overall. He had a few bad throws. The int and the one that was about 2 yards behind Lamb that the DB just flat out dropped. My issue wasn't his overall body of work, just the slow start. I love that we ended up exploding in the 4th but slow starts like that are very likely to end any playoff run.

This defense is built to run in front. They need to be kept fresh and they need the offense to get points early so the other team gets away from the run. When offenses have to throw against us, and we know it, they're dead in the water.

I have no faith that if we get behind early by a couple scores that this qb/coaching staff will stick with our running game. If we end up having to throw and put it all on Dak, I don't have a lot of trust that he can do it against the playoff defenses that we will face. I'd love for him to prove me wrong on that.

Good post.

 

[cnuball21]

I trust Dak and I kinda trust McCarthy.. the guy I don't trust is Moore. Dak was able to bring the Cowboys to the brink of victory against that great 49ers defense while playing on a bad wheel with no running game last season. He put 7 more points up against them than Rodgers did and 3 points less than the Rams. All with Zeke running on one leg, Tyron playing on a gimpy ankle, Collins playing like crap and Williams holding everything in sight. If the ref doesn't bump into him and stop him from getting that play off I really think he lasers the game winner in there to Lamb or Coop. The 49er defense was reeling and he had them right where he wanted them. I just think he's got that gene. But he needs Moore and McCarthy to manage the game better to give him more of a realistic opportunity in situations like that. I just believe if he gets to the playoffs in one piece he's going to light our opponents on fire. He's ready to take that next step. Especially now knowing that he's got this defense and he doesn't have to go for 400 yards and 35 points just to have a chance. A great defense and a running game are a QB's best friend. And he finally has both..

As for the other stuff.. thanks for the context. It underscores why you can't always take what these talking head shows say as gospel. Their job is to get you to watch them, not to always be 100% accurate.

Speaking of accurate.. I am really weary of the whole "mechanics" thing with Dak. The ball gets where it's supposed go 75-80% of the time.. which is consistent with the best throwers in the league. People spend far too much time worrying about "it looks different." Who cares? All I care about is does it get to the receiver way more often than it doesn't. We know he can have some bad throws when his footwork is off. Pretty much ever QB can.. As long as he's completing damn near 70% of his passes I can't find it within me to think he has any more poor throws than any other QB. The official accuracy numbers say he doesn't. We're just Cowboy fans who put his every throw under a microscope. Which is fine to do.. but a little perspective can be a really good tool. Dak's accurate throws numbers are up there with the best in the league so to me all the talk of mechanics is much ado about nothing.

Mic drop

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I trust Dak and I kinda trust McCarthy.. the guy I don't trust is Moore. Dak was able to bring the Cowboys to the brink of victory against that great 49ers defense while playing on a bad wheel with no running game last season. He put 7 more points up against them than Rodgers did and 3 points less than the Rams. All with Zeke running on one leg, Tyron playing on a gimpy ankle, Collins playing like crap and Williams holding everything in sight. If the ref doesn't bump into him and stop him from getting that play off I really think he lasers the game winner in there to Lamb or Coop. The 49er defense was reeling and he had them right where he wanted them. I just think he's got that gene. But he needs Moore and McCarthy to manage the game better to give him more of a realistic opportunity in situations like that. I just believe if he gets to the playoffs in one piece he's going to light our opponents on fire. He's ready to take that next step. Especially now knowing that he's got this defense and he doesn't have to go for 400 yards and 35 points just to have a chance. A great defense and a running game are a QB's best friend. And he finally has both..

As for the other stuff.. thanks for the context. It underscores why you can't always take what these talking head shows say as gospel. Their job is to get you to watch them, not to always be 100% accurate.

Speaking of accurate.. I am really weary of the whole "mechanics" thing with Dak. The ball gets where it's supposed go 75-80% of the time.. which is consistent with the best throwers in the league. People spend far too much time worrying about "it looks different." Who cares? All I care about is does it get to the receiver way more often than it doesn't. We know he can have some bad throws when his footwork is off. Pretty much ever QB can.. As long as he's completing damn near 70% of his passes I can't find it within me to think he has any more poor throws than any other QB. The official accuracy numbers say he doesn't. We're just Cowboy fans who put his every throw under a microscope. Which is fine to do.. but a little perspective can be a really good tool. Dak's accurate throws numbers are up there with the best in the league so to me all the talk of mechanics is much ado about nothing.

I love your insight, your takes, your loyalty. But...you need pressed to truly criticize cowboys players.

I dig that though. I mean it. Your first instinct is to support and cheer on your team. Find the positives.

But Dak's "mechanics".....I don't think ARE equal to/among the best. It's been a criticism since before draft day.

"reading defenses"....and understanding coverages EVEN when it's a "timing route".....I think is suspect.

It's evil...to me...when people scream "you said you wanted timing routes and now you get the interceptions.....so YOU wanted this". Well "we" want ADPET timing routes.

I think you get that when you get good...the criticism should OF COURSE get tighter. When I play in my band...we're pretty loose and tolerant at first....but as you rehearse the song, and get better....you get more critical. And THAT...is how you get better.


I don't think Dak should take any "next step". Just stay even, stay in your lane. Don;t be some sort of hero or do things you can;t...when you have a WHOLE TEAM ready to go into the fire.

The band has to trust the others, the band has to know their capabilities. Restraint is often the very best policy. The most fun. The most successful.

 

[Risen Star]

I trust Dak and I kinda trust McCarthy..

"I trust the guy whose never won and I kinda trust the guy who has."

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

It’s time to give him his due. He’s earned back my respect. We are in good shape with cap space now that things are expanding again, and some great strategic decisions in the off season.

Only thing I could be now is jealous of the money he makes. But it’s no longer keeping the team from building a winning roster.

Now, would I appreciate it if he reworked his contract when it’s time to resign Micah. Yes!

Definitely, and I'm just having fun.

 

[DandyDon1722]

I trust Dak and I kinda trust McCarthy.. the guy I don't trust is Moore. Dak was able to bring the Cowboys to the brink of victory against that great 49ers defense while playing on a bad wheel with no running game last season. He put 7 more points up against them than Rodgers did and 3 points less than the Rams. All with Zeke running on one leg, Tyron playing on a gimpy ankle, Collins playing like crap and Williams holding everything in sight. If the ref doesn't bump into him and stop him from getting that play off I really think he lasers the game winner in there to Lamb or Coop. The 49er defense was reeling and he had them right where he wanted them. I just think he's got that gene. But he needs Moore and McCarthy to manage the game better to give him more of a realistic opportunity in situations like that. I just believe if he gets to the playoffs in one piece he's going to light our opponents on fire. He's ready to take that next step. Especially now knowing that he's got this defense and he doesn't have to go for 400 yards and 35 points just to have a chance. A great defense and a running game are a QB's best friend. And he finally has both..

As for the other stuff.. thanks for the context. It underscores why you can't always take what these talking head shows say as gospel. Their job is to get you to watch them, not to always be 100% accurate.

Speaking of accurate.. I am really weary of the whole "mechanics" thing with Dak. The ball gets where it's supposed go 75-80% of the time.. which is consistent with the best throwers in the league. People spend far too much time worrying about "it looks different." Who cares? All I care about is does it get to the receiver way more often than it doesn't. We know he can have some bad throws when his footwork is off. Pretty much ever QB can.. As long as he's completing damn near 70% of his passes I can't find it within me to think he has any more poor throws than any other QB. The official accuracy numbers say he doesn't. We're just Cowboy fans who put his every throw under a microscope. Which is fine to do.. but a little perspective can be a really good tool. Dak's accurate throws numbers are up there with the best in the league so to me all the talk of mechanics is much ado about nothing.

I would agree to an extent on the mechanics except to say under pressure, in cold weather, on the road against good defenses…everything counts and just like in golf - under pressure you will always revert back to old habits.

Hey honestly… I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[Rockport]

Ronnie sorry it’s my fault. You didn’t have any context because I forgot to quote the reply I made so here it is.

The exact stat was on Colin Cowherds show last week. I’m pretty sure the research staff on a National show does their homework. Also here’s what else I said and none of it was bashing Dak they are just all true observations.

Dak has loose mechanics which result in poor throws. He just does. He gets away with it sometimes but it can catch up eventually.

I said he’s tenacious and is winning but the Giants, Lions, Colt and Texans next week are not good barometers.

The test will be in January against the best defense in all of football in San Francisco and on a cold Grey day in Philly in January where every possession matters.

Then ask yourself do you trust Dak in the 4th quarter throwing the ball possibly coming from behind under pressure. Then ask yourself do you trust the coaching staff?

That’s all it is and if you do great - I’m just not sure what you would base it on in January… in the playoffs.

The last time we played a great game in the playoffs in 26 years was 2016 vs the Packers and had it taken away.

So the bottom line for me is no - I do not trust the Cowboys ie, Dak and McCarthy in the playoffs.

It’s become cliched but Ive got nothing else to hang my hat on and hope is not a plan.

How about against the 9-2 Vikings? Why do you haters ignore all the good plays and focus just on the few bad ones?

 

[plymkr]

They say yes. 5:15 mark of the video

I'm no Dak Stan and I would agree this is the worst game since his return. But what I was encouraged with was the roll out TD to Gallup. Dak made plays when he had to. He was a little off as far as accuracy but he calmed down, used his weapons, pulled it together and we won. The roll out TD to Gallup was all Dak and that was a momentum shift. Also give the Colts D some credit. They held the greatest team to ever play and the future first ballot HOFer Hurts to under 20. Eagles beat the Colts by 1 point, we beat them by 30 or so. Colts D is good

 

[CowboyRoy]

Bullroar! The Cowboys may not put a beat down on the SF, but they will win that game.

But, I have smoke coming out of my ears when I think about the eagles! I want the Boyz to win that game...so bad.

SF is built to beat us. Although losing Jimmy G might help us. Eagles and SF are the two teams to beat in my mind.

 

[817Gill]

Lol what?!

That stat was featured on the Herd just last week and to be nice I didn’t even go all the way with it.

He’s got the worst 3rd down pass rating of any QB since 2005!

I didn’t bash him, in fact everything I posted were true observations. You can’t wish it away - it is what it is.

That was after the Detroit game man. He’s at 79 now which is much better than the 48 rating he had after those first two games he played. Look at the 3rd down stats since then, he’s been much better.

 

[Shane612]

Except for the INT and that terrible looking pass that went behind CeeDee, I thought he had a decent game.

 

[IslandCowboy]

He's only had one good game since he returned. Not sure if this is the worst of the mediocrity. To all those quoting the stats, any QB that gets those short fields that often is going to have at least 3 TDs. What did he do all game u til he started getting those short fields? Long story short is Dak has been careless with the ball way to much this season and has random errant throws that are going to cost us big in the playoffs. Bookmark it.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

They say yes. 5:15 mark of the video

That's it. Bench him and get Cooper Rush back in there. #1 in scoring offense, #1 in yards gained, and #1 in point differential is absolutely horrid and obviously Trashcott is holding us back.

3 TDs on 66% completion percentage sucks. Plug in any jag and they're gong for 300 and 6 TDs against that Colts team.

Get a baller like Carson Wentz, Cooper Rush, Baker Mayfield, or Taylor Heineke in there and I guarantee a Super Bowl.