Props to "The Player" but I'm glad he's gone

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tyke1doe;2854866 said:
So everyone who is asked a question is obligated to answer? :huh:

So explain to us what happened when he wasn't talking to the media pre-2007 season while he was rehabbing his finger.

If you guessed 'the media took it as Owens was a changed guy', you would be wrong.

If you guessed the media started to say that he wasn't talking to the media only to GAIN ATTENTION, then sadly enough you would be correct.

I don't agree with Owens' logic with Vick and Goodell and I'm glad we don't have deal with the distraction, but I get the feeling if Brett Favre said this nobody would report...at least BSPN wouldn't. You can't excuse the media for baiting a guy by saying that the guy should know when he was being baited.




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TheSport78;2854373 said:
Because Vick spent over 2 YEARS in jail. That is a life-changing experience. I think Vick has suffered enough. Let the man go back to work. Our country gives 2nd chances all the time. This is America, isn't it?
exactly i agree with owens a 100% on this

a lot of other players in the league feel this way and have hinted at it but are to afraid to speak out

ive been saying the same thing with my boys for a while

there is no reason to suspend this guy. he already did his time. lost millions on top of millions

plus how do you get suspended for the same crime twice.

let the man be. they act like hes a masked murder or something. he doesnt even have a long history of legal trouble. the guy is in the process of getting his life back together just let him be

doing this hurts him even more. its hard enough for him to find a team that will take him. now a team has to take him knowing he wont be thear for a fourth of the season
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2856145 said:
that freedom of speech thing is great

signed Ezra Levant

Yes it is but it comes with a price, he can say anything he wants and deal with the fall out when he does. However the routine is pretty well known make comments then act like the victim afterwards.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2856211 said:
So explain to us what happened when he wasn't talking to the media pre-2007 season while he was rehabbing his finger.

If you guessed 'the media took it as Owens was a changed guy', you would be wrong.

If you guessed the media started to say that he wasn't talking to the media only to GAIN ATTENTION, then sadly enough you would be correct.

I don't agree with Owens' logic with Vick and Goodell and I'm glad we don't have deal with the distraction, but I get the feeling if Brett Favre said this nobody would report...at least BSPN wouldn't. You can't excuse the media for baiting a guy by saying that the guy should know when he was being baited.




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It's called REPUTATION!!!

T.O. has a reputation for shooting his mouth off and playing to the cameras. The media understand this and that's why they love him. He's controversial. He makes the news.
The media understand this, but does T.O. understand this?

It's like he just doesn't get it. In good times, they come to him. In bad times, they come to him.

If they're looking for a controversial statement, they come to him because they know he's going to say something that allows them to "manufacture" news.

If T.O. would just shut up, over time, his problems would go away. But he can't. Being a member of the media, I love guys like T.O. I don't like boring guys who say "no comment." No comment means no story.

But guys who pop off. Oh, yeah, I have something to write about now.

Too bad T.O. doesn't understand this. :(
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2856145 said:
that freedom of speech thing is great

signed Ezra Levant

The media some of you call mediots agree. ;) :D
 

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GOLDENCHILD1688;2856321 said:
exactly i agree with owens a 100% on this

So you believe Goodell should sit in jail just as long as Vick did?

a lot of other players in the league feel this way and have hinted at it but are to afraid to speak out

So other players believe Goodell should sit in a jail just as long as Vick did?

ive been saying the same thing with my boys for a while

there is no reason to suspend this guy. he already did his time. lost millions on top of millions

So that means that anyone who has served time should automatically go back to the same situation they occupied before their conviction?

plus how do you get suspended for the same crime twice.

He didn't get suspended for the same crime twice. He served his jail time, and he has been reinstated until he's cleared to play.

let the man be. they act like hes a masked murder or something. he doesnt even have a long history of legal trouble. the guy is in the process of getting his life back together just let him be

First, it's mass murderer.

Second, he doesn't have a long history of legal trouble because he hasn't been caught. If you lived around the Newport News area, you'd know by rumors that crime and Vick aren't foreign concepts.

doing this hurts him even more. its hard enough for him to find a team that will take him. now a team has to take him knowing he wont be thear for a fourth of the season

Vick wouldn't have been ready by the fourth game of the season anyway. In fact, I doubt he will be back to playing form until next season.

And the NFL has to worry about its image. I can understand the decision from this vantage point:

1. Vick isn't going to be ready and needs time to "chill" or get ready.
2. The NFL doesn't want Vick stealing the spotlight from it until the season is well under way.

The ruling makes sense to me. And I don't even have to go into the whole, playing in the NFL is not a right but a privilege spill.
 

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Doomsday;2854464 said:
I agree with a lot of what TO said but the statement above is just ******** at best. Other then be a felon who brutalizes animals Vick hasnt shown any character issues. Sorry TO that alone shows he has ZERO character.

vick fought dogs and totured them. many players in the league and millions around the world kill defensless animals but we call it gaming. is there a difference? both are wrong. i dont agree with owens
 

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LatinMind;2856545 said:
vick fought dogs and totured them. many players in the league and millions around the world kill defensless animals but we call it gaming. is there a difference? both are wrong. i dont agree with owens
Yeah, hunting is legal, dog fighting is not. Hunters eat their game. Dog fighters don't eat the dead dogs. Hunting is about conservation. Dog fighting is about blood sport.

Other than that they are exactly the same thing. :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah, hunting is legal, dog fighting is not. Hunters eat their game. Dog fighters don't eat the dead dogs. Hunting is about conservation. Dog fighting is about blood sport.

Other than that they are exactly the same thing. :rolleyes:

both are killing. both are wrong.
 

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LatinMind;2856555 said:
both are killing. both are wrong.
I don't agree and never will. They are not similar at all. Please take the discussion to the PZ if you wish to discuss it further. This is not the forum for this topic.

Oh, and I am not a hunter. So there's no agenda here. I have hunted in the past, but it was mainly coyotes, wild dogs, and rabbits who kill the cattle and vegetable crops where I grew up. Farmers and ranchers paid us to protect their herds and crops.
 

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GOLDENCHILD1688;2856321 said:
let the man be. they act like hes a masked murder or something. he doesnt even have a long history of legal trouble. the guy is in the process of getting his life back together just let him be
I would have spent 10 bucks to have read that yesterday when I needed a laugh. That's one of the most awesomest posts ever.
 

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Hostile;2856550 said:
Yeah, hunting is legal, dog fighting is not. Hunters eat their game. Dog fighters don't eat the dead dogs. Hunting is about conservation. Dog fighting is about blood sport.

Other than that they are exactly the same thing. :rolleyes:


LOL. That was pretty good.

The masked murder comment was pretty funny to.
 

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Hostile;2856550 said:
Yeah, hunting is legal, dog fighting is not. Hunters eat their game. Dog fighters don't eat the dead dogs. Hunting is about conservation. Dog fighting is about blood sport.

Other than that they are exactly the same thing. :rolleyes:
Hunters sometimes make trophies of their kills. Dog fighters apparently bury the dead animals in the back yard. Hunters take days off work and use up their vacation time. Dog fighters black out windows and pretend no one is home. Hunters buy licenses. Dog fighters buy steroids to inject the dogs and make them meaner. Hunters try to kill their game instantly with one clean shot. Dog fighters hope to prolong the savagery and agony for as long as possible.

Saying the two are similar is still just mind numbingly silly to me.
 
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