Quarterback futility in the NFL

[DBOY3141]

Or higher We had the opp to move up two spots. We didn't. The ammo needed to move back into the top 5 is enormous. We didn't want to give up the picks for 2 slots, yet alone multiple 1sts, 2nds, 3rds, etc. it would take in the future to move up when the next QB will be taken. Of course, we could bomb again and be back to blue chip QB range again; hope not of course bc that means Romo went down.
I'm sure a trade could have been made before STL/PHI got involved but we never broached that prospect even after fawning over Wentz during his pro day/senior bowl (JG). Sour grapes, love Zeke now tbh. JJ wanted both; a flashy BPA prospect and his QB for the future but lost out to DEN. That's why he was so pissed; he saw what happened last year w/out a real QB and knows he missed out on all 3 QBs.

Do you know for a fact that they never talked to Tenn or Cleveland about moving up to #1 or #2?

 

[KJJ]

Finding a solid starting QB (franchise QB) that can man the position for the next decade or more is the most difficult thing to accomplish for any team. We've seen what Cleveland has gone through and will continue to go through because RG3 isn't going to be the answer. You have to squeeze every ounce of good play you can out of your franchise QB because you don't know how many years it may take to replace them once they're done. Those who wanted to trade Romo or allow him to walk 3 years ago were crazy! Had the Cowboys moved on from him after the 2012 season the team would be coming off their 3rd straight losing season.

It's especially tough to develop QBs today because it's a passing league and so much is put on the shoulders of a QB. They're expected to win games and turn franchises around which results in many young QBs taking a beating on the field and from the fans and media which causes them to lose their confidence. When you're fortunate enough to have a franchise QB you have to stay with them as long as you can because life after them could be very depressing. The Cowboys experienced it in the late 80s and early 2000s it wasn't pretty. You simply can't win especially in todays game without a solid QB.

 

[DC Cowboy]

Age helps the QB position like no other. It takes awhile to learn the game. I think a fair part of the current QB drout is not letting them learn before they are really ready.

The flip side is that once they are ready, you need to pay them for unproven service or risk loosing that investment to FA. Just part of the price of the game.

this is why I think Wentz going to Philly is the best thing for him. At least, if all goes to plan, he will get a chance to sit behind Bradford for a year or two. Hopefully this is the same scenario for Dak. Romo, Brady, Rodgers all sat for various time frames.

 

[Denim Chicken]

this is why I think Wentz going to Philly is the best thing for him. At least, if all goes to plan, he will get a chance to sit behind Bradford for a year or two. Hopefully this is the same scenario for Dak. Romo, Brady, Rodgers all sat for various time frames.

I wouldn't imagine sitting behind Bradford is good for anyone.

 

[BlindFaith]

True, but look at the 200 quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round that busted like grapes.

Look at the 2000 that were drafted after the first round that busted like grapes.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Aikman is a sure fire HOF but even with that he doesn't get credit for surviving his rookie season. Carr is a good example of being thrown into the deep end and sinking, Aikman did it and swam immediately.

Dak is a huge question mark right now, but he certainly has the physical skills to develop and clearly has the leadership skills to give it a good shot. Fingers crossed he is an above average starter in a couple of years when he finally gets the call.

That's a great point and it made me understand how great Aikmam truly was. He got absolutely mauled his rookie season and took some tremendous hits. He didn't have a lot of talent around him and had an untested rookie coach who drafted another QB who some say he liked better in Steve Walsh.

Aikman survived all that and afterwards he flourished. He was just so physically and mentally tough and had the ability to shake things off and keep coming back.

Then as you correctly pointed out you look at David Carr who I always thought could've had a pretty good NFL career got stuck on a terrible team and also took a tremendous beating but he just couldn't handle it.

 

[DC Cowboy]

I wouldn't imagine sitting behind Bradford is good for anyone.

lol, I meant he has a chance to watch the game/s not Bradford.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

A few look at Hutchinson, Steorner, Carter, Henson, Anthony Wright, Leaf, Cunningham, Testarverde as a nightmare trying to finally find Tony Romo ... and a lesson we better have learned!

When really it's not any different than the Beuerlein, Kosar, Walsh, Rodney Pete, Wilson to find an Aikman, or the Cassel, Brad Johnson, Moore, McGee, Kitna, Orton, Weeden, Dak QB search to eventually relieve Romo.

Look at history, the Dallas Cowboys know how to uncover a QB from the mire and finding a starting NFL caliber QB is certainly a process. There are plenty of ways to criticize the Cowboys, Wins vs Losses for example.

Instead some choose to continue chasing the dogma of an experienced NFL General Manager/self proclaimed internet Draft Guru, actually trolling our team forum and supporting reaches/busts of NFC East rivals. All the while Dallas continues its' due diligence.

 

[waldoputty]

A few look at Hutchinson, Steorner, Carter, Henson, Anthony Wright, Leaf, Cunningham, Testarverde as a nightmare trying to finally find Tony Romo ... and a lesson we better have learned!

When really it's not any different than the Beuerlein, Kosar, Walsh, Rodney Pete, Wilson to find an Aikman, or the Cassel, Brad Johnson, Moore, McGee, Kitna, Orton, Weeden, Dak QB search to eventually relieve Romo.

Look at history, the Dallas Cowboys know how to uncover a QB from the mire and finding a starting NFL caliber QB is certainly a process. There are plenty of ways to criticize the Cowboys, Wins vs Losses for example.

Instead some choose to continue chasing the dogma of an experienced NFL General Manager/self proclaimed internet Draft Guru, actually trolling our team forum and supporting reaches/busts of NFC East rivals. All the while Dallas continues its' due diligence.

we have drafted the least QBs - the worst mistake of the FO

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

we have drafted the least QBs - the worst mistake of the FO

Juep.... Ryan Mallett # 72 overall and Jimmy Garoppolos' 2nd round addition would have been exactly what they are for the Patriots..the best wasted picks in the league.

 

[BigStar]

Do you know for a fact that they never talked to Tenn or Cleveland about moving up to #1 or #2?

No not at all. I think they likely did but didn't like the price, etc. and went with Zeke and hoping Lynch drops but the price tag was higher than speculated. Just my opinion though definitely. (It's offseason and it's in the past.) I do support Zeke and think he's a great player and next year's class can change like it usually does after the College season. I'm hoping Kaaya (Miami QB) drops tbh.

 

[CWR]

I think your timeline is messsed up there . Anyway I agree, Indy had unreal timing. Green Bay did too, but they did have to burn 3 seasons of nothing off of Rodgers career. Indy made the switch and Luck immediately came in and gave them solid QB play on his rookie contract.

It may be off. Im going off memory and not google. I thought we had Romo play/start one half of the season after Bledsoe was benched he came out the second half of MNF against NY and threw a 50yd int first throw. The following draft GB took Rodgers and thats why I was thinking damn we passed on the number 1 QB prospect Romo better be legit. But my memory has failed me before lol!

GB didnt get production from Rodgers immediately but most Rookie QBs should sit and learn for a year or two anyways. Favre was a big part of the problem because he was pulling his retire every year routine and kept coming back. Finally GB told Favre we're going with Rodgers and Favre was all butt hirt about it as he went to Minnesota and the analyst pulled thier best Tarzan routine all year. Same year Minny crushed us in the playoffs, made me sick, still does.

EDIT - I used that google thing. It mustve been Romo in the preseason that swayed us from drafting Rodgers. I actually looked at the dates.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It may be off. Im going off memory and not google. I thought we had Romo play/start one half of the season after Bledsoe was benched he came out the second half of MNF against NY and threw a 50yd int first throw. The following draft GB took Rodgers and thats why I was thinking damn we passed on the number 1 QB prospect Romo better be legit. But my memory has failed me before lol!

GB didnt get production from Rodgers immediately but most Rookie QBs should sit and learn for a year or two anyways. Favre was a big part of the problem because he was pulling his retire every year routine and kept coming back. Finally GB told Favre we're going with Rodgers and Favre was all butt hirt about it as he went to Minnesota and the analyst pulled thier best Tarzan routine all year. Same year Minny crushed us in the playoffs, made me sick, still does.

EDIT - I used that google thing. It mustve been Romo in the preseason that swayed us from drafting Rodgers. I actually looked at the dates.

But the draft is before the preseason. Here is what I more or less remember: after Interceptaverde "retired", we signed Bledsoe before the draft... but at that time, I'm fairly sure that Henson was considered to be the backup and the future. Now that obviously resolved itself by the time camp was over, but at the time of the draft I don't think Romo had much to do with the decision to take Spears instead of Rodgers... at least on his own. It was probably more of, "we have a Pro-bowl starter who still has at least 3-4 good years left, and 2 developmental QBs... we're good."

 

[coult44]

Age helps the QB position like no other. It takes awhile to learn the game. I think a fair part of the current QB drout is not letting them learn before they are really ready.

The flip side is that once they are ready, you need to pay them for unproven service or risk loosing that investment to FA. Just part of the price of the game.

Add to that, that the QB's in college right now are not running pro style offenses, and it really shows how hard it is to get a good one to play well early.

 

[CWR]

But the draft is before the preseason. Here is what I more or less remember: after Interceptaverde "retired", we signed Bledsoe before the draft... but at that time, I'm fairly sure that Henson was considered to be the backup and the future. Now that obviously resolved itself by the time camp was over, but at the time of the draft I don't think Romo had much to do with the decision to take Spears instead of Rodgers... at least on his own. It was probably more of, "we have a Pro-bowl starter who still has at least 3-4 good years left, and 2 developmental QBs... we're good."

Ugh thats way worse. I know the draft preseason order but was thinking maybe Romo flashed the preseason before. So basically we just got real lucky. I really hope that conversation I had with my buddy wasnt; this HENSON guy better be legit! Lol.

 

[Bleu Star]

2016

* Dak Prescott



j/k

Beast

 

[lane]

The almost ubiquitous use of the spread offense, read option offense in high school and college is starting to have a major impact on the NFL game.