Quinn in Our laps = Moss Scenerio of 98?

[CrazyCowboy]

BPA at that point was a #1 08 draft pick.

 

[Tobal]

Did we get a probable top ten 1st round draft choice and a top 5 pick in the 2nd round when we passed on Moss? Nope

 

[Sarge]

Quinn's mechanics scare alot of people and me too.

Ask any of the regulars here.........I have been saying THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT TONY ROMO.

His basic mechanics are AWFUL.

I PRAY that it works out with Romo - I am certainly not sold on this guy in the least.

Please let me be wrong......................for once.

Keep in mind however, I am not AT ALL sold on Brady Quinn.

 

[cnhnyy]

If you read this guy's posts, he is just anti-Romo.

The nice thing about this trade is that, even if Romo is back to earth, we will have the enough ammo to draft a franchise QB next year.

 

[Manster]

If Romo flames out we might have two top ten picks next year. Which would allow us to draft his replacement. If he continues to develop then we can draft a RB or WR to help him. It's a no lose situation.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

are we already starting the "What if?" threads...
zzzzzzzzzzz...

 

[Yeagermeister]

Jerry was right in 98 and in 07....we'll see

 

[wxcpo]

Do you realize that 7 teams with either no clear starting QB or serious QB questions passed on Brady Quinn?

Two of those teams have former QB coaches as their head coach. One of those teams' head coach has as a close friend Quinn's college head coach.

Consistently during the broadcast today, nearly every talking head said that they've talked to scouts that think that Quinn simply isn't very accurate and has little upside (i.e., he's reached his potential).

Does that tell you something?

If he's so great, why did he drop to 22? We know that Romo can play at the NFL level. We don't know that about Quinn. And anyway, we have 2 first round picks next year. No complaints here, although it would've been nice to nab a receiver.

These types of arguements kill me and show very little self thought by the writer.Geez the head guys in the NFL passed on him so he must not be that great.

Hmmm you think if those head guys who passed on Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Brett Farve etc... knew then what they know now you think maybe those guys may have went a little higher in the draft? Geez I think maybe they would have.

I'm not saying we passed on the next Brady, Montana, Marino or Farve, heck we may not have even passed on the next Trent Dilfer, but just because the guy drops to #22 in the draft doesn't mean he's not going to be a great player.

I love the fact that we made the deal with Cleveland and got what could potentially be the top pick in next year's draft. We won't know if this turns out to be another Moss scenario until a couple years down the road when we see what Spencer does or until we see who we get with Cleveland's pick.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Ask any of the regulars here.........I have been saying THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT TONY ROMO.

His basic mechanics are AWFUL.

I PRAY that it works out with Romo - I am certainly not sold on this guy in the least.

Strange. This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone complain about his mechanics. I've never heard anyone on the coaching staff complain about it after his grooming period.

He has a tendency to not be mechanically solid when he's trying to make a play, but what QB doesn't?

 

[Sarge]

Strange. This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone complain about his mechanics. I've never heard anyone on the coaching staff complain about it after his grooming period.

He has a tendency to not be mechanically solid when he's trying to make a play, but what QB doesn't?

I never said the "coaching staff" complained about his mechanics. I said I have been.

As far as his mechanics "when trying to make a play" - you lost me there. I'd think that Romo would try to "make a play" on every down.

 

[zrinkill]

just tired of passing on big time players

You mean like the other 21 teams in front of us ..... and I dont think any of them had a Probowl QB already.

 

[theogt]

These types of arguements kill me and show very little self thought by the writer.Geez the head guys in the NFL passed on him so he must not be that great.

Hmmm you think if those head guys who passed on Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Brett Farve etc... knew then what they know now you think maybe those guys may have went a little higher in the draft? Geez I think maybe they would have.

I'm not saying we passed on the next Brady, Montana, Marino or Farve, heck we may not have even passed on the next Trent Dilfer, but just because the guy drops to #22 in the draft doesn't mean he's not going to be a great player.

I love the fact that we made the deal with Cleveland and got what could potentially be the top pick in next year's draft. We won't know if this turns out to be another Moss scenario until a couple years down the road when we see what Spencer does or until we see who we get with Cleveland's pick.

When Tom Brady came out, he wasn't a top 10 prospect. He didn't look like one and he didn't play like one. He couldn't even keep the starting position on his college team.

What Brady did was he worked on his game in the pros. That's exactly what Romo did. They worked hard and learned the position. And grew into the quarterbacks they are now. Neither one was worth a top 5 pick when they came out of college, but I'd surely use a top 5 pick on one now.

You can't make decisions based on what you don't know. You can only base decisions on what you do know. And the NFL GMs passed on Quinn like it was nobody's business.

Regardless, that's not why I didn't like him. I didn't like him because he was very inaccurate and made a lot of bad decisions, despite having one of the better QB/Offensive coaches to mold him daily. Quinn didn't improve over his time with Weis. He regressed. That's the problem I have with Quinn. What are the chances he would improve here, if he couldn't do it over his collegiate career under Weis?

So, no, my post wasn't for lack of thought. If you had thought before posting, maybe you would have realized that the argument we made wasn't the only argument that could be made, but was just one of the arguments that could be made. And if you think that what NFL GMs think regarding the talent of a player isn't evidence as to that players talent, then God help you.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I never said the "coaching staff" complained about his mechanics. I said I have been.

As far as his mechanics "when trying to make a play" - you lost me there. I'd think that Romo would try to "make a play" on every down.

Yes, I understand that you said his mechanics are awful. I just said it's the first time I've ever heard of such a complaint from someone, and that includes members of the coaching staff.

When I said, "trying to make a play", what I implied was a outside of what was designed, i.e. when things broke down.

 

[xpistofer]

Jerry was right in 98 and in 07....we'll see

 

[theogt]

Yes, I understand that you said his mechanics are awful. I just said it's the first time I've ever heard of such a complaint from someone, and that includes members of the coaching staff.

When I said, "trying to make a play", what I implied was a outside of what was designed, i.e. when things broke down.

Yes, when he's running around like a chicken with his head cut off, he tends to lose his mechanics.

Otherwise, they're fine. Sometimes he throws a little side-arm, but he's usually doing it to position the ball coming out of his hand to fit a throwing lane.

The bottom line is that he's got nice ball control and is pretty accurate.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

When Tom Brady came out, he wasn't a top 10 prospect. He didn't look like one and he didn't play like one. He couldn't even keep the starting position on his college team.

What Brady did was he worked on his game in the pros. That's exactly what Romo did. They worked hard and learned the position. And grew into the quarterbacks they are now. Neither one was worth a top 5 pick when they came out of college, but I'd surely use a top 5 pick on one now.

You can't make decisions based on what you don't know. You can only base decisions on what you do know. And the NFL GMs passed on Quinn like it was nobody's business.

Regardless, that's not why I didn't like him. I didn't like him because he was very inaccurate and made a lot of bad decisions, despite having one of the better QB/Offensive coaches to mold him daily. Quinn didn't improve over his time with Weis. He regressed. That's the problem I have with Quinn. What are the chances he would improve here, if he couldn't do it over his collegiate career under Weis?

So, no, my post wasn't for lack of thought. If you had thought before posting, maybe you would have realized that the argument we made wasn't the only argument that could be made, but was just one of the arguments that could be made. And if you think that what NFL GMs think regarding the talent of a player isn't evidence as to that players talent, then God help you.

Stick and move, Theo. Stick and move.

 

[jazzcat22]

Do you think this pick will haunt us... Sorry, not trying to ruin everyone's night but this has been on my mind all day.. kind of like the stephen jackson trade...
I really don't think Romo has shown enough to pass on a franchise QB such as Quinn who has potential to be the next Manning and Brady.. Anyone else feel this way?

I thought we were going BPA?

No this will not haunt us. What has Moss REALLY done anyway? Vikings have won as many Championships as the Eagles. Did Moss make Oakland win?
Romo has shown more than Quinn. I have never been all that impressed with Quinn. Never plays well in the big games. And if romo turns out NOT to be the guy. We will be able to draft a QB next year with that pick.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can see Quinn being a QB similar to Brady, but we have a pretty nice QB ourselves

 

[Concord]

Jerry was right in 98 and in 07....we'll see

No he wasn't.

That's why the Patriots traded for a guy almost 10 years later to help them win a Super Bowl.

They weren't trading for Ellis.

 

[zrinkill]

They weren't trading for Ellis.

No ..... Greg's first team wanted to keep him his entire career ..... Moss is on his 3rd.