Randy Gregory to Apply for Reinstatement

[Nightman]

From what I underatand they still have treatment plans. But, what if Greogry blew his plan off for 6 months? He may not have been failing tests but he may not have been passing tests either.

Just doesn’t make sense to me he wouldn’t have tried to be reinstated before the draft and before OTAs when he has missed 2 years, for the sole purpose of showing Goodell he has been clean for 22 months instead of 19 months. It’s not like he is trying to show the difference between 2 months and 5 months where the additional 3 months would have much more of an impact.

As far as I know, missed test equals failed test. No exceptions.

One of the requirements for reinstatement is that player has to provide all the paperwork concerning his treatment and possible failed tests...... if he was being tested the whole time wouldn't the league already have this info? It also says he has to agree to new random testing

I don't think a player gets tested by the league when banished


APPENDIX B
Procedures for Reinstatement Following Stage Three Banishment

Any Player who has been banished under Stage Three may apply formally in writing for
reinstatement no sooner than 60 days before the one-year anniversary date of the letter so
banishing him.

The application should include all pertinent information about the Player’s:
(a)Treatment
(b)Abstinence from Substances of Abuse throughout the entire period of his banishment
(c)Involvement with any Substances of Abuse related incidents
(d)Arrests and/or convictions for any criminal activity, including Substances of Abuse-related offenses

Set forth below are the procedures to be used when an application is received by the Commissioner.
1. Within 45 days of receipt of the application, the Player will be interviewed by the Medical Director and the Medical Advisor, after which a recommendation will be made to the Commissioner with regard to the Player’s request for reinstatement.
2. The Player will execute appropriate medical release forms that will enable the Commissioner’s staff and NFLPA Executive Director’s staff to review the Player’s substance abuse history, including but not limited to attendance at counseling sessions (individual, group and family); attendance at 12-step and other self-help group meetings; periodic progress reports; and all diagnostic findings and treatment recommendations.
3. The Player will submit to urine testing by an NFL representative at a frequency
determined by the Medical Advisor.
4. The Player will agree in a meeting with the Commissioner or his representative(s) to comply with the conditions imposed by the Commissioner for his reinstatement to the status of an active Player.
5. All individuals involved in the process will take steps to enable the Commissioner to render a decision within 60 days of the receipt of the application.

 

[Aviano90]

One of the requirements for reinstatement is that player has to provide all the paperwork concerning his treatment and possible failed tests...... if he was being tested the whole time wouldn't the league already have this info? It also says he has to agree to new random testing

I don't think a player gets tested by the league when banished


APPENDIX B
Procedures for Reinstatement Following Stage Three Banishment

Any Player who has been banished under Stage Three may apply formally in writing for
reinstatement no sooner than 60 days before the one-year anniversary date of the letter so
banishing him.

The application should include all pertinent information about the Player’s:
(a)Treatment
(b)Abstinence from Substances of Abuse throughout the entire period of his banishment
(c)Involvement with any Substances of Abuse related incidents
(d)Arrests and/or convictions for any criminal activity, including Substances of Abuse-related offenses

Set forth below are the procedures to be used when an application is received by the Commissioner.
1. Within 45 days of receipt of the application, the Player will be interviewed by the Medical Director and the Medical Advisor, after which a recommendation will be made to the Commissioner with regard to the Player’s request for reinstatement.
2. The Player will execute appropriate medical release forms that will enable the Commissioner’s staff and NFLPA Executive Director’s staff to review the Player’s substance abuse history, including but not limited to attendance at counseling sessions (individual, group and family); attendance at 12-step and other self-help group meetings; periodic progress reports; and all diagnostic findings and treatment recommendations.
3. The Player will submit to urine testing by an NFL representative at a frequency
determined by the Medical Advisor.
4. The Player will agree in a meeting with the Commissioner or his representative(s) to comply with the conditions imposed by the Commissioner for his reinstatement to the status of an active Player.
5. All individuals involved in the process will take steps to enable the Commissioner to render a decision within 60 days of the receipt of the application.

That's right. I was confusing the language stating the player can't participate with the club except for going to see the treating clinician for treatment purposes on club property but must vacate the premises immediately following the treatment and the Director of Player Engagement may have bi-weekly telephone contact with the banished player. I was assuming the would get tested as part of that treatment.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Yes I know they his lawyer said he intends to come back and will wait until this year. However, the reasoning for that was NOT provided. Nowhere have I seen a reason given from his side as to why he was waiting.

Yes it was. Like I said, go back and read the threads. It's all in there. This isn't a new topic of discussion. It was all covered in extreme details like every other topic in here is.

 

[Aviano90]

Yes it was. Like I said, go back and read the threads. It's all in there. This isn't a new topic of discussion. It was all covered in extreme details like every other topic in here is.

Any way to do a quick search on this site so I can find it?

 

[big dog cowboy]

From what I underatand they still have treatment plans. But, what if Greogry blew his plan off for 6 months? He may not have been failing tests but he may not have been passing tests either.

A missed test equals failed test.

Gregory hasn't "blown off" anything.

 

[vaturkey]

https://nflspinzone.com/2018/04/20/dallas-cowboys-randy-gregory-return-no-expectations/

 

[Nightman]

Any way to do a quick search on this site so I can find it?

There is no Search feature

You have to use google ie "Cowboyszone Randy Gregory"

 

[Hoofbite]

There is no Search feature

You have to use google ie "Cowboyszone Randy Gregory"

site:cowboyszone.com [search term]

Works okay. Little more specific.

 

[Aviano90]

site:cowboyszone.com [search term]

Works okay. Little more specific.

Thanks. I've search and found several threads from the past but couldn't find the specific posts I was hoping to find.

 

[DallasDomination]

Best case scenario for Gregory is what? Solid rotation guy?

 

[gimmesix]

Best case scenario for Gregory is what? Solid rotation guy?

Relaxation coach.

 

[jobberone]

Best case scenario for Gregory is what? Solid rotation guy?

Unless I'm overlooking someone, he is the only edge rusher we have. The rest are 5s.

 

[speedkilz88]

Best case scenario for Gregory is what? Solid rotation guy?

Unless I'm overlooking someone, he is the only edge rusher we have. The rest are 5s.

 

[Aviano90]

man could they use some help this year
now would be a good time to figure out if he wants to be a football player or not
ill hope for the best but definitely not counting on him

The NFL hasn’t announced Rolando McClain failed any more tests for the purple drank. Maybe he can come back and help us at linebacker.

 

[sjmike]

I appreciate your honesty and can't fault someone if they feel that way. And I won't try to change your mind.

I choose to look at the positives of it rather than writing someone off in life.

Give the guy a break. If smoking a little herb is the worst thing that Gregory does in his life, I'd say he had a positive life. Lots of my friends smoke pot, it doesn't define them or make them bad people. Too many people of here act like he is some evil dude because he smokes pot. I don't get it

 

[Stash]

Give the guy a break. If smoking a little herb is the worst thing that Gregory does in his life, I'd say he had a positive life. Lots of my friends smoke pot, it doesn't define them or make them bad people. Too many people of here act like he is some evil dude because he smokes pot. I don't get it

It's frustration more than anything else. And anger that he made promises that he didn't keep.

The Cowboys ended his self-inflicted draft slide. And he paid their faith back by lying about not smoking anymore and getting repeatedly suspended. I can certainly see why people would get angry about that.

But nobody should be cast out or written off.

 

[Jumbo075]

So he gets reinstated and the Cowboys keep him and low and behold say week 3 he has a bad game and his addiction gets the better part of him and then he fails a drug test and gets banned for life. But the Cowboys already wasted a roster spot on him and there are no suitable DE's lying in waiting to be picked up but wait they had one in camp but cut him to keep Gregory but that player was signed after getting cut. Let some other team run the risk that he won't regress back to drugs. It's not like he would be the 1st "former" drug addict that slipped and fell beck into using. When he was first suspended I read an article that said nearly 70% of all addicts at some point start using again at least 1 time after going someplace for treatment.
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That's not really a great argument. The Cowboys have ALREADY signed two former 1st & 2nd round picks to play, just in case Taco and Lawrence falter - Datone Jones, and Kony Ealy. Add in Gregory, and the Cowboys have two 1st round picks, and three 2nd round picks to compete at DE. That is without Tapper.

Also, if Harold Landry actually falls to 19, I'd snap him up in an instant. He's "Randy Gregory" WITHOUT the weed problem, and 3 years younger. But I don't believe that Landry will fall that far. I think he's a top 10 pick.

 

[Jumbo075]

He didn't apply before because he wanted to show he could stay clean for a while. That is common knowledge. It was documented and discussed at length in here last year. You can go back and look through the threads if you want. It was said then that Gregory wasn't expected to apply for reinstatement until this spring.

Actually, it is not common knowledge. It is common speculation. Frankly, I don't understand the delay. But I have this ability to refrain from speculation, and wait for the actual facts.

I was upset the Cowboys passed on Gregory in the first round, and delighted he was their choice in the 2nd round. I was so excited, my daughter told me to calm down. So, I was disappointed in Gregory a couple of times. But I was never disappointed in the Cowboys for choosing him with the 60th pick - which is almost a 3rd round selection. Compare to Collins who was picked at 67, or Terrell McClain, picked 65th, who disappointed by being injured so often in his career. To get a Top 10 talent with pick 60 was amazing to me. Obviously, it hasn't worked out as well as I hoped. But I'm not any more disappointed in Gregory than I would be a top talented guy who was injured a lot.

Unlike some fans, I'm not bitter about Gregory. I'm hopeful for his comeback, and have been waiting for it with measured excitement. If he actually comes back all the way, he's easily the most talented DE on the roster - more talented than Lawrence. Now, with two years away from football, has he sabotaged himself? Sure. Even if he's more talented, it's highly possible his production may never match that talent. But I'm an optimist by nature. I LIKE believing things will turn out well, and don't let myself get too down when they don't.

Some of you other fans should TRY being more optimistic about certain players and the team in general. I'm not unaware of the foibles of certain players, coaches and owners. And I'm not ignorant of the long championship drought. But football as a spectator sport is something to be ENJOYED. So make up your minds to ENJOY it, no matter what comes. I know this may strike some of you as heresy, but I have resolved to ENJOY the Cowboys regardless of if they ever win another championship, and I am resolved to enjoy what the players, coaches and ownership do right, rather than obsess over every mistake. Yes, that even means enjoying Garrett, Stephen and Jerry - when possible (which is more often than you might believe if you are so focused on their faults.)

One of the reasons I was so sorry to see both Romo and Dez leave is because I so ENJOYED watching them play. I loved Romo's Houdini act, and Dez's highlight catches. But they're gone now. I don't live in the past. So, I'm looking for more reasons to ENJOY the Cowboys this year. Randy Gregory exploding and fulfilling his talent level would be a GREAT reason to ENJOY watching the Cowboys play defense. So that is WHY I remain optimistic.

But even I have to admit the rules changes, the invasion of politics, the psychsexual "ME TOO" drama etc., is draining the game of it's enjoyment. Roger Goodell in particular has been a blight on the game. He seems fully committed to destroying the beauty of the game of football. And the excessive displays of on-field celebrations also detract from the pure beauty of the game. It's getting harder to enjoy it.

So, please let me remain excited about the possibility of ENJOYING watching Randy Gregory wreak havoc in opposing teams' backfields. Sure it may not happen. But who cares. (Dumb question. Obviously, a lot of you.) I don't care. I long to see Gregory become what I believed he could be for the Cowboys - for the pure enjoyment of watching him play. If that bothers some of you, or if you prefer cynicism over the innocence of simply enjoying the game, that's your cross to bear. I'm not going to help you carry it.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

That's not really a great argument. The Cowboys have ALREADY signed two former 1st & 2nd round picks to play, just in case Taco and Lawrence falter - Datone Jones, and Kony Ealy. Add in Gregory, and the Cowboys have two 1st round picks, and three 2nd round picks to compete at DE. That is without Tapper.

Also, if Harold Landry actually falls to 19, I'd snap him up in an instant. He's "Randy Gregory" WITHOUT the weed problem, and 3 years younger. But I don't believe that Landry will fall that far. I think he's a top 10 pick.

I agree, if Landry falls to 19 somehow, then we need to pounce on him.

 

[Praxit]

..dont know where this is going. But sure is wierd.