Randy Gregory to Apply for Reinstatement

[QuincyCarterEra]

Best case scenario for Gregory is what? Solid rotation guy?

Starting right end with 12+ sack potential

 

[black label]

He has stopped for well over a year sooooooo.

They always go back

 

[GORICO]

Yeah, sure.

mr Cybe--- no really man...this is legit info...cause if he was positive on any even once he could not apply for reinstatement

 

[GORICO]

more like:

yimy----it totally cracks me up seeing that picture you got of "blue label" and Jerrah...makes me think...Jerrah sitting back reflecting on his initial 180 mil investment to buy cowboys now worth 4.5 billion...and he just cruises in his helicopter drinking blue label looking at his empire

 

[gjkoeppen]

Again, I didn’t say they can’t. I said they don’t have too. You keep talking about other employers but that’s only valid if every company did it across the board, they don’t. It’s up to their discretion. The NFL has every right to, they just don’t have to. As no company has to outside of government agencies and the respective companies they contract.

And no there would be no hipocrisy, because same as if a player got popped for a DWI, if they got in trouble with the law for smoking or possession the league would still punish them.

A more accurate comparison involving alcohol would be do you think that the NFL should test players under 21 for alcohol consumption?

I don't know why it's so hard for you to get the EXTREMELY simple concept that one, drinking, is legal if of legal age and the other, weed, is still ILLEGAL in most states. Besides the reasons I've already stated there is also the whole idea of perception and players being role models for young kids. Lets say the NFL did as you said and stop testing and then some players are smoking some weed in one of the states it's legal and pic gets taken of the player smoking weed and that pic goes viral on the internet. Now young kids see those players using weed and and say I got to get me some weed because (enter whatever name ) uses it. Professional sports are always worried about presenting good role models. If fans want to use, that's their business but the NFL has to test if for no other reason than the perception that they are trying to provide good role models. If you had/have a kid say 10 years old do you want them trying to sneak around trying to get weed because now the perception that the NFL doesn't care anymore if they stopped testing?
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[Corso]

This board is much more negative and confrontational than the other site.

Fun, isn't it? It's like swimming in a pool that feels warm and comforting and then you realize it's from all the piss and vinegar.

It's like being back in the mother's womb... Wait.

 

[Corso]

They always go back

Whatever Captain Generalization.

 

[jobberone]

LOL

 

[jobberone]

Actually, it is not common knowledge. It is common speculation. Frankly, I don't understand the delay. But I have this ability to refrain from speculation, and wait for the actual facts.

I was upset the Cowboys passed on Gregory in the first round, and delighted he was their choice in the 2nd round. I was so excited, my daughter told me to calm down. So, I was disappointed in Gregory a couple of times. But I was never disappointed in the Cowboys for choosing him with the 60th pick - which is almost a 3rd round selection. Compare to Collins who was picked at 67, or Terrell McClain, picked 65th, who disappointed by being injured so often in his career. To get a Top 10 talent with pick 60 was amazing to me. Obviously, it hasn't worked out as well as I hoped. But I'm not any more disappointed in Gregory than I would be a top talented guy who was injured a lot.

Unlike some fans, I'm not bitter about Gregory. I'm hopeful for his comeback, and have been waiting for it with measured excitement. If he actually comes back all the way, he's easily the most talented DE on the roster - more talented than Lawrence. Now, with two years away from football, has he sabotaged himself? Sure. Even if he's more talented, it's highly possible his production may never match that talent. But I'm an optimist by nature. I LIKE believing things will turn out well, and don't let myself get too down when they don't.

Some of you other fans should TRY being more optimistic about certain players and the team in general. I'm not unaware of the foibles of certain players, coaches and owners. And I'm not ignorant of the long championship drought. But football as a spectator sport is something to be ENJOYED. So make up your minds to ENJOY it, no matter what comes. I know this may strike some of you as heresy, but I have resolved to ENJOY the Cowboys regardless of if they ever win another championship, and I am resolved to enjoy what the players, coaches and ownership do right, rather than obsess over every mistake. Yes, that even means enjoying Garrett, Stephen and Jerry - when possible (which is more often than you might believe if you are so focused on their faults.)

One of the reasons I was so sorry to see both Romo and Dez leave is because I so ENJOYED watching them play. I loved Romo's Houdini act, and Dez's highlight catches. But they're gone now. I don't live in the past. So, I'm looking for more reasons to ENJOY the Cowboys this year. Randy Gregory exploding and fulfilling his talent level would be a GREAT reason to ENJOY watching the Cowboys play defense. So that is WHY I remain optimistic.

But even I have to admit the rules changes, the invasion of politics, the psychsexual "ME TOO" drama etc., is draining the game of it's enjoyment. Roger Goodell in particular has been a blight on the game. He seems fully committed to destroying the beauty of the game of football. And the excessive displays of on-field celebrations also detract from the pure beauty of the game. It's getting harder to enjoy it.

So, please let me remain excited about the possibility of ENJOYING watching Randy Gregory wreak havoc in opposing teams' backfields. Sure it may not happen. But who cares. (Dumb question. Obviously, a lot of you.) I don't care. I long to see Gregory become what I believed he could be for the Cowboys - for the pure enjoyment of watching him play. If that bothers some of you, or if you prefer cynicism over the innocence of simply enjoying the game, that's your cross to bear. I'm not going to help you carry it.

What a great post. Living in the now and carpe diem are great rules to live by.

 

[Proof]

I don't know why it's so hard for you to get the EXTREMELY simple concept that one, drinking, is legal if of legal age and the other, weed, is still ILLEGAL in most states. Besides the reasons I've already stated there is also the whole idea of perception and players being role models for young kids. Lets say the NFL did as you said and stop testing and then some players are smoking some weed in one of the states it's legal and pic gets taken of the player smoking weed and that pic goes viral on the internet. Now young kids see those players using weed and and say I got to get me some weed because (enter whatever name ) uses it. Professional sports are always worried about presenting good role models. If fans want to use, that's their business but the NFL has to test if for no other reason than the perception that they are trying to provide good role models. If you had/have a kid say 10 years old do you want them trying to sneak around trying to get weed because now the perception that the NFL doesn't care anymore if they stopped testing?
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LOL. the only one with comprehension issues is you. I’ve literally, directly addressed every “point” you’ve made.

But I’ll continue, as far as alcohol being legal unless your underage, I asked do you think the league should test underage players for consumption?

As far as the silliness of a picture of a player smoking weed going viral, two things:

A: they would / could still be punished by the league in that scenario

B: I’d be no more concerned with my 6 and 13 yr old looking for weed based on the hypothetical , marquee players viral weed pic than I am of them trying to get alcohol due to seeing all of the advertisements and partnerships forced down their throats. Is that EXTREMELY simple enough for your 1950s Americana worshipping, scary self?

 

[Aviano90]

Best case scenario for Gregory is what? Solid rotation guy?

Assuming he files for reinstatement and Goodell allows him back, he will probably struggle and we will have to be patient while he gains experience and knocks 2 years of rust off. More than likely 2019 is when we might be able to have him be an impact player. That's my guess.

 

[Proof]

Let’s cut the BS though. You’re an idiot and incapable of forming a decent argument nor defending “simple” positions. You bore me and I don’t mind taking a timeout to say so

 

[cowboy_ron]

He should be reinstated and ready to play some football right before he retires.

Stephen, on his next screw up.....do your stuff. We've wasted enough time with this idiot.

 

[Proof]

Assuming he files for reinstatement and Goodell allows him back, he will probably struggle and we will have to be patient while he gains experience and knocks 2 years of rust off. More than likely 2019 is when we might be able to have him be an impact player. That's my guess.

I don’t think that’s unreasonable, but as a situational pass rusher (given the depth of the line) I think he can make a much quicker and significant impact

 

[Proof]

He should be reinstated and ready to play some football right before he retires.

Stephen, on his next screw up.....do your stuff. We've wasted enough time with this idiot.

*sigh*

 

[Jipper]

Only upside from him at this point....at worst a camp body...at best a depth player....both are wins

 

[Galian Beast]

I don't know why it's so hard for you to get the EXTREMELY simple concept that one, drinking, is legal if of legal age and the other, weed, is still ILLEGAL in most states. Besides the reasons I've already stated there is also the whole idea of perception and players being role models for young kids. Lets say the NFL did as you said and stop testing and then some players are smoking some weed in one of the states it's legal and pic gets taken of the player smoking weed and that pic goes viral on the internet. Now young kids see those players using weed and and say I got to get me some weed because (enter whatever name ) uses it. Professional sports are always worried about presenting good role models. If fans want to use, that's their business but the NFL has to test if for no other reason than the perception that they are trying to provide good role models. If you had/have a kid say 10 years old do you want them trying to sneak around trying to get weed because now the perception that the NFL doesn't care anymore if they stopped testing?
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Ridiculous given the NFL is one of the biggest beer advertisers in America... but those constant commercials couldn't possibly impact kids...

 

[atlantacowboy]

I guess the reefer stacks are getting low.

 

[guag]

brah, it's 4/20 today.

Congratulations, you are the grand prize winner of the Internet for the week.

 

[gjkoeppen]

LOL. the only one with comprehension issues is you. I’ve literally, directly addressed every “point” you’ve made.

But I’ll continue, as far as alcohol being legal unless your underage, I asked do you think the league should test underage players for consumption?

As far as the silliness of a picture of a player smoking weed going viral, two things:

A: they would / could still be punished by the league in that scenario

B: I’d be no more concerned with my 6 and 13 yr old looking for weed based on the hypothetical , marquee players viral weed pic than I am of them trying to get alcohol due to seeing all of the advertisements and partnerships forced down their throats. Is that EXTREMELY simple enough for your 1950s Americana worshipping, scary self?

Here's what you STILL don't get. My example of the viral pic was taken in a state where weed is legal. If the league stops testing for weed then it would not be a banned substance anymore so there could be no suspension because there would have been no arrests. As far as you thinking it's silly for a pic like that going viral, one DID in the last couple of months of a NFL player laying on a bed with what looks like a joint in his hand. Last I read it is being investigated by the league and why is it, because weed is still tested for and a banned substance and illegal in that state ( I think it was NY). Maybe you should worry just as much about whether your kids ARE looking for some weed than spending time and energy trying to justify the NFL not to test for weed anymore. Nobody knows for sure but how many of the players that do smoke weed started as teenagers or do you think they just started smoking it after they got into the NFL? How old were you when you had your first joint?
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