Ray Lewis says Cowboys Offense doesn't scare anyone

[soopastar4]

I wonder how garrett could have been a part of one the greatest cowboys teams ever and be such a coward and coach with no repercussion status for bad play!

 

[DiResta]

The issue is that knowing you can't run because you are missing 40% of the players from last year, the coaches are still doing what they did last year as though they still have the same line. That's just insane. They need to make adjustments and quick.

theres no way to predict that! if so you would be rich beyond belief.
and they did ok the week before against the Giants remember
so it looked ok going in

 

[Zman5]

We're too busy scoring 28-30 points to do much about it.

If you are satisfied with getting shut down on one half of the football games, then more power to you. I prefer the team play well both halves.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Bet he loves him some Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, and Colin Kaepernick. Dude is just a murderous troll

It is a killer statement. Makes me homicidal just thinking fans listen to this accused slayer and full-time idiot.

 

[Zman5]

theres no way to predict that! if so you would be rich beyond belief.
and they did ok the week before against the Giants remember
so it looked ok going in

It's been 4 weeks. I can see your point for the first game but after the AZ game, they needed to add more wrinkles.

 

[JD_KaPow]

If you are satisfied with getting shut down on one half of the football games, then more power to you. I prefer the team play well both halves.

Hey, I'd love to put up 48 points a game too, but it ain't going to happen. I don't really care when we put up the 30 points, as long as we put them up. I care about allowing 35. (I care about muffing punts and allowing long returns too, both of which happened in the Rams game).

 

[soopastar4]

The other problem with this Oline is as talented as they are they are not nasty enough they need more grit like collins first game against JPP that was the first time in all the games played against the giants with jpp that ANYONE has came at him with that eric williams attitude it matters it changes things when you hit people in the mouth.

 

[soopastar4]

Martin can be nasty sometimes but travis and tyron are not and thay need to be as well as green and cooper.

 

[Wolfpack]

The predictability really hurts the ability of the players to execute their roles when the defense knows what is coming. For formation and personal tells have always been a huge JG thing from day one. If you watch the Cowboys, you know exactly what play is coming each week and you also know exactly how they will react to what the defense shows. Thats part of what always got Tony in trouble.

I wish he would have his offense self scouted better...I don't know if they do much of that apparently.

 

[DiResta]

It's been 4 weeks. I can see your point for the first game but after the AZ game, they needed to add more wrinkles.

we can see the struggles and poor execution here and there hurting drives but the identity is to run first. we not going Chip Kelly to fool a team, we want those guys to stop missing assignments and do their damn job. we know it works and we think we got the dudes we need. if not we gonna churn till we do.
yeah they can do little things on 3rd downs and stuff but we need better runs. thats where our money is and thats what we gonna do.

 

[Chuck 54]

If the scheme was nearly as important as the players or if there was a "great" scheme, everyone would be running that scheme. Scheme is totally over-exaggerated. Anyone who thinks a different scheme would suddenly "fool" the defense and score at will is delusional.

You can be successful with any number of different schemes IF the play caller can predict the defense and call the right plays in the right situations and if the players, assuming they are average or better when it comes to talent, can execute the plays together--that means the QB making the right choices, the correct blocking being called, the receivers and QB being on he same page, and 11 guys doing their jobs without breakdowns. Even then, the defense will occasionally win because they execute better or an individual makes a great play.

Our offense executed last year; this year they are struggling to do so. It's that simple. Maybe we need to pass more early, both to set up the run and to avoid 3rd and long, but no matter what play you call, you need 11, or close to 11, players to work together and execute for the RB or QB to be successful.

 

[Zman5]

Hey, I'd love to put up 48 points a game too, but it ain't going to happen. I don't really care when we put up the 30 points, as long as we put them up. I care about allowing 35. (I care about muffing punts and allowing long returns too, both of which happened in the Rams game).

It's not just about the points. It's that we can't sustain drives. The team is built base on offense having long drives to save the defense from being exposed. We could have scored less points but could have won if we could have had longer sustained drives in the 2nd half against the Rams. If we had few longer drives that ended up in a FGs instead of a one short TD drive in the second half, we probably would have won but scored less points.

 

[Zman5]

we can see the struggles and poor execution here and there hurting drives but the identity is to run first. we not going Chip Kelly to fool a team, we want those guys to stop missing assignments and do their damn job. we know it works and we think we got the dudes we need. if not we gonna churn till we do.
yeah they can do little things on 3rd downs and stuff but we need better runs. thats where our money is and thats what we gonna do.

I never said we shouldn't run so I don't know why you keep bring this up. I'm saying we need to change the overall scheme for both pass and run. Not how much we should run or pass.

 

[soopastar4]

If i was coaching this team i swear i would go old school on they butts for a session every practice where it three on three if the running back makes the cone d goes again and vice versa if rb does not make it until i saw some real passion to GET YOUR JOB DONE TODAY(Michael Irvin) and everyone would be right there watching with coaches all over the losing side no games BUSINESS!

 

[JD_KaPow]

It's not just the points. It's that we can't sustain drives. The team is built base on offense having long drives to save the defense from being exposed. We could have scored less points but could have won if we could have had longer sustained drives in the 2nd half against the Rams.

We never got the ball outside our own 25 yard line. We scored 30 points. We had plenty of sustained drives. Not every drive is going to be sustained: it's an unrealistic expectation.

 

[Zman5]

We never got the ball outside our own 25 yard line. We scored 30 points. We had plenty of sustained drives. Not every drive is going to be sustained: it's an unrealistic expectation.

So how many long drives did we have in the second half? We punted 4 straight times and never even got to the Ram's side of the field until 7:55 mark in 4th quarter.

 

[JD_KaPow]

So how many long drives did we have in the second half? We punted 4 straight times and never even got to the Ram's side of the field until 7:55 mark in 4th quarter.

We punted three times and threw an interception. Let me remind you of the dropped passes that led to at least two of those punts.

But who cares? We punted three times in the game and turned it over once. That's not at all unusual. What is unusual is letting the other team score 9 times. This idea that if more of those punts came in the first half, we'd be better off, I just don't buy it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

That's not really what the offense is designed to do. This has been said for years, but the offense is more competitive than most on a per-play basis.

I don't love our scheme, either, but the breakdowns, to the extent we have them, have been execution breakdowns. And the offense is still putting up points.

Meanwhile, our LBs can't cover and our Ss are liabilities in space and our tackling has been subpar so far this season. And we can't take the ball away from anybody. Let's focus on the real reasons we're getting beat.

Just curious Idgit, but shouldn't a head coach that has been on the job for 8 years already have some of these problems addressed?

 

[birdwells1]

Drop by Dez. Drop by Terrence. And a pick when Dak's arm was hit.

I completely agree those things can't happen to winning teams. Which is why I said the issues were with execution and not necessarily with the scheme.

That execution excuse is a throw down for coach's who offense gets stagnant. The Rams had misses and miscues also. I was at the game and the Rams offense was more diverse than the Cowboys, the verticle passing game doesn't work as well as teams who use rub routes, crossing routes, legal pick plays. This is what the Patriots, Falcons, Rams, Washington and Steelers use, they don't rely on "players winning individual battle" they scheme them to win battles.

People get down on Dez but if you put him in Pittsburgh you'd see his numbers reflect Browns numbers. This year the few time they've run Dez on crossing routes he's been successful but the just don't do it enough.

 

[Zman5]

We punted three times and threw an interception. Let me remind you of the dropped passes that led to at least two of those punts.

But who cares? We punted three times in the game and turned it over once. That's not at all unusual. What is unusual is letting the other team score 9 times. This idea that if more of those punts came in the first half, we'd be better off, I just don't buy it.

Who said having those punts come in 1st half we'd be better off? I said having few longer drives in the second half that ended up with FGs would probably been better than having one short drive that ended up a TD. Stop making stuff up.