Re-structuring rather than extending Dak Prescott

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This is my issue with it….you know what Dak is at this point. He’s pretty much a consensus top 10 by people….

At this point you have to ask yourself can you win with him? If you can re-sign him. It’s a risk but you can’t keep waiting until your guys hit certain milestones to increase their value and get them on crappy deals.
I think that there is enough doubt upon the table for both McCarthy and Prescott that Jerry is not in a current position to make a long ranged commitment for his team. He prefers to be smart at this stage, and not the original wild catter who litterally put everything on the line. Hey, he's getting smarter and lost's of real team money is on the line. Stephen will be in position to close some of the holes in cap levels this next season, but replacing the team's quarterback is a huge risk here and now. It will redirect player retention due to draft costs...and a chunk of change removed for a team's leader. Justification for the draft investment with the next Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach. (scrambler or passer)
 

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If Dak has another season like last season, I can’t see the team extending him. They’ll just move some of the cap hit to 25 and 26 like they already have.

If they let Dak walk in 2025, good chance he counts 40+ million dead cap that season. And probably another 20 million in 26. The whole contract is a nightmare.
 

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It doesn’t matter when they don’t draft or sign a FA viable option…..it’s like the leverage they had when they caved into Daks demands last contract….Jones was bidding against himself with no viable alternative

I don’t blame Dak for that one bit……Jerrys business acumen and reputation surely doesn’t come from player contract negotiations
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If Dak has another season like last season, I can’t see the team extending him. They’ll just move some of the cap hit to 25 and 26 like they already have.

If they let Dak walk in 2025, good chance he counts 40+ million dead cap that season.
Two year pay out and a ton of bonus in the interim?

A three year bump in the road, or is there enough good talent but low salaries on the team to cover, now?

With a high draft choice quickly...
 

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I don't think they just wildly restructured his deal to create cap space for this year only, then dump him and eat $59 million next year, or over 2 years.
Unless he really sucks this season.

I believe they did it with an extension in mind. Rather it happens this year or next off-season.
I'm riding it out with the man committed to and a current Cowboys leader. He actually should carry the current load.
 

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If Dak has another season like last season, I can’t see the team extending him. They’ll just move some of the cap hit to 25 and 26 like they already have.

If they let Dak walk in 2025, good chance he counts 40+ million dead cap that season. And probably another 20 million in 26. The whole contract is a nightmare.
If Dallas does nothing after this year, his cap hits are

2024: 59m
2025: 25m
2026 11m

He's going to get an extension/restructure after next season that drops the 2024 cap hit because they aren't going to pay him $25m to play somewhere else.
 

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If Dallas does nothing after this year, his cap hits are

2024: 59m
2025: 25m
2026 11m

He's going to get an extension/restructure after next season that drops the 2024 cap hit because they aren't going to pay him $25m to play somewhere else.
They aren’t paying him anything in 2025. It’s dead cap. They’ll move half of the 2024 money to 2025 and 2026 as well.

Now I agree the team won’t be happy about eating that much dead cap in 2025 and 2026 but it’s better than re-upping with a declining player.
 

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It doesn’t matter when they don’t draft or sign a FA viable option…..it’s like the leverage they had when they caved into Daks demands last contract….Jones was bidding against himself with no viable alternative

I don’t blame Dak for that one bit……Jerrys business acumen and reputation surely doesn’t come from player contract negotiations
Sadly, there just aren't any options outside of the draft, and a good QB only comes around every 2-3 years. So you have to stink to get that guy.

That's why JAGs like Dak, Cousins, Jackson, Wilson, Murray, Watson, etc, make more money than almost their entire offenses.
 

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If Dak has another season like last season, I can’t see the team extending him. They’ll just move some of the cap hit to 25 and 26 like they already have.

If they let Dak walk in 2025, good chance he counts 40+ million dead cap that season. And probably another 20 million in 26. The whole contract is a nightmare.
Too many are acting like Dak had a terrible season last year and he didn’t. Granted he did throw a lot of INT’s, but he still went 8-4 and won a playoff game in convincing fashion. He had a higher passer rating last season than he did in 2017. If he continues to win games and lead us to the playoffs they’ll extend him. The Joneses aren’t about to let him walk unless they have a better option at QB. They’re not going to leave the team without a viable QB. If Dak’s game were to fall off even more this season, resulting in the Cowboys missing the playoffs, then his future with the team could be in doubt.
 

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If they let him go they’ll end up like Washington, playing musical chairs at QB every season, while missing the playoffs. I’ve seen posts by dopes on this board claiming the Cowboys would have won the Super Bowl had they stuck with Cooper Rush. Lol There’s fans on this board that think Dak is easily replaceable and that the team already has two better options in Cooper Rush, and Will Grier. Lol
Not necessarily true. I don't believe that any QB currently on the roster would do better than Dak. But there are trades and FA and the draft where you can look for another QB who won't try to command $50m/year without having earned it. We have seen what we have with Dak. He's been doing this for a long while, he's probably at his ceiling and we've seen that isn't enough. He needs the perfect team around him to succeed. A line full of HoF'ers, a great running game, top WR's. Without that, he falters. Hard. I don't think he's a bad QB, but I don't think we are ever going to win a Super Bowl with him at QB so I see him as a progress stopper.
 

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What about those that don't want to see it but like clicking on links? Can they click on it and not look at it?
Sure, it happens often. Someone posts an article. They either click on the link and don't read it, or they don't click on it, but still don't read it.
But yet they feel they need to comment on it.
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I don't think it matters all that much. You pay the going rate whenever you do it because the cap continues to go up. Dallas didn't sign Dak to a contract in 2020 because he wanted a shorter deal than the team wanted. The franchise tag essentially gave them an extra year. If we had signed him in 2020, then we probably would already have redone or be redoing his deal this year and be paying the roughly $45 million per season mentioned in the article because the "big" year of the deal would be this year.

The biggest benefit to signing him to a four-year deal in 2020 would have been not having to pay $31 million. His first year of his new four-year deal was $17.2 million, his second $19.7 and this year is $26.8. Note that none of those is $40 million per year. Yes, that's why a big chunk is due next year for all the money that gets pushed to the back end of a deal. And that's why you redo the deal next year if he's playing well. Then you go back to paying $20 million per year for the first three years before you finally have to take the big hit (which will be absorbed by other contracts and the likelihood that the next quarterback will be on a rookie deal).

I don't know if I would mess with the deal further this year because I don't know if the team gets much of a benefit out of it. Dak's base is $1.7 million this year, so it's not like you can reduce it to create more money to roll over into next year. Of course, we do have $20 million in cap space right now, so they could decide it's better to use some of that to start an extension now.
Right. It's the going rate. The salary is usually proportionally the same compared to the cap.

And of course, there's all the manipulation of the actual cap hit to consider.

It's better to make sure you have the right guy than to pay them too early.
 

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I don't think they just wildly restructured his deal to create cap space for this year only, then dump him and eat $59 million next year, or over 2 years.
Unless he really sucks this season.

I believe they did it with an extension in mind. Rather it happens this year or next off-season.
And if they do extend him the restructure doesn’t mean much. Extend him now or next year doesn’t really change the overall cost
Now some want them to move on but they know finding a top 10 or so QB is really hard and can take years and lots of draft capital so I think they realize their wagon is hitched to Dak and he’s their best option
 

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Not necessarily true. I don't believe that any QB currently on the roster would do better than Dak. But there are trades and FA and the draft where you can look for another QB who won't try to command $50m/year without having earned it. We have seen what we have with Dak. He's been doing this for a long while, he's probably at his ceiling and we've seen that isn't enough. He needs the perfect team around him to succeed. A line full of HoF'ers, a great running game, top WR's. Without that, he falters. Hard. I don't think he's a bad QB, but I don't think we are ever going to win a Super Bowl with him at QB so I see him as a progress stopper.
No one’s going to trade a QB worth a darn. The Cowboys would end up with a lesser QB than Dak and it would cost them draft picks. Denver traded for Russell Wilson who’s been on the decline and how has that worked out so far? There’s a good reason Seattle moved on from him. Washington traded multiple picks for Carson Wentz and how did that work out? Lol The Cowboys traded a fifth round pick for Matt Cassel in 2015 after Romo was lost with an injury and how did that work out? As for FA QBs the Cowboys would end up with a QB that’s failed for other teams. How did Brandon Weeden work out for us several years ago? Being stuck with a FA QB that’s been kicked to the curb would be like going back to the days of Ryan Leaf, Drew Bledsoe and Vinny.

What Dak has done so far hasn’t been good enough because the Cowboys haven’t had good enough teams. Everyone was excited about Andy Dalton who was a FA and he went 4-5 for the Cowboys. Dak doesn’t need a perfect team around him, but we would need a perfect team to have any chance with the QBs we would end up with if fans like you ran the team. If you think trading for a QB, some team is trying to get rid of, or a free agent QB is going to be good enough to elevate the team to a Super Bowl you’re kidding yourself. The only way the Cowboys are going to improve over Dak is in the draft and that could take burning numerous draft picks over the next several years to try and find one.
 

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Dak will not get 50 million per year unless he gets us to the NFC championship game first. It doesn’t matter how well he plays. If the team isn’t at least knocking on the SB door, you don’t pay that much money.

FYI, let’s stop throwing around average contract money per year numbers. Unless you are in Jerry’s Will, you shouldn't care about anything but the QBs cap hit each year.

I wouldn’t pay any QB in the NFL, regardless of talent, 50 million per year until he’s been to a conference title game. If my team isn’t good enough to get there, paying the QB 50 million a year isn’t going to get the team there.
And if he wins one ??????
 

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Dak is an oft-injured QB in decline and losing what limited athleticism he had, and I hope they know that.
I had been arguing that Dak was still a solidly above average QB.... bit you make a good point.

I hear what you are saying: always injured...always flinging Pick6s like they were hotcakes..... and a not-so-intelligent QB that has relied on somewhat good physical traits in the past that are now in steep decline as he mives into his 30's....and he's likely to fall out of the Top 20 starting QBs very soon.

I hadn't looked at it that way.... but I can't disagree with you either, as hard as I try.
 
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