Reality check on Trey Lance beating Day Prescott or even Cooper Rush

[jazzcat22]

Not sure how that has anything to do with Trance being garbage.

He is garbage to you as you feel he will threaten Dak's job in 2025.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am very much so looking forward to how it all comes together in preseason. Now is the time they are trying out some plays and techniques from the install they have never ran before. It's when they do not get better over iterations that I will start to worry.

Given the media instructions to not discuss scheme in their OTA reports, we will just have to wait and see.

 

[jazzcat22]

There is not another QB on any NFL roster with less than 500 snaps. Most HS QB's that get a D1 offer throw more than that in HS alone.

Everyone needs to start somewhere to get experience. Only you write him off, but then again, you are not an NFL scout.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Yes they actually do. Trance is the least experienced QB on any roster in the NFL.

So your point in response to what I wrote was just to say that Lance is the most inexperienced QB on the roster in the NFL?

That somehow makes Dak look less sloppy and Lance worse for being inconsistent even though he's thrown 4500 less passes than Dak?

Hope you're not a lawyer.

 

[Jarv]

Not sure how that has anything to do with Trance being garbage.

He is showing slak chokes in the playoffs, just that we need to look elsewhere.

Also, where are the links to these reports?

 

[Chasing6]

He is showing slak chokes in the playoffs, just that we need to look elsewhere.

Also, where are the links to these reports?

What reports?

 

[Qcard]

You lost me at Broaddus. One of the worst scouts ever. He has been wrong on many players.
What you say Broaddus said is opposite that 10 other reporters and coaches ad scouts have said.

Don't fear Trey, be happy we as a TEAM, have a QB that may have some potential for once. We will see come PS games.

Fear of less than 500 careers passes is your interpretation

Broaddus is a Superbowl winning scout

Dak Haters are Forum buffs

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So the Niners realized it was a mistake and GM Jetbro thought it was a good idea.

Somewhat.

 

[jazzcat22]

Fear of less than 500 careers passes is your interpretation

Broaddus is a Superbowl winning scout

Dak Haters are Forum buffs

First of all I am not a Dak hater, just not as high on him as I was 3 years ago.

And now we have the 500 attempt stuff going on from several of you. Again, he needs experience. 10 scouts and MM and others say the complete opposite of a few novices on here. And anyone that thinks Broaddus was a great scout are mistaken.

Even Jason Garrett got a SB ring with Troy as the main QB.

The main office people, at least for Jerry got a SB ring, though not as big as the players. So there are SB winning secretaries out there. I seriously doubt what Broaddus did made them a SB champion.

 

[jazzcat22]

So the Niners realized it was a mistake and GM Jetbro thought it was a good idea.

More like SF made a mistake, and Jerry fleeced them.

 

[JoeKing]

This thread is the result of a fan that doesn't understand the situation. Trey Lance is not competing for the QB1 job. At best, he is competing with Cooper Rush for the QB2 job. Trey will get a heavy dose of starting in the preseason. But the only way he ascends to the QB1 job is if he beats out Cooper and Dak gets injured. It could happen but it's not likely.

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

"We all know that it would take a perfect team you know like the 2000 Ravens defense and a run game like no other any coaching staff that are geniuses in order to carry a player like Cooper rush your team has to play nearly perfect the barely win by 1 score "


We all know that it would take a perfect team you know like the 2000 Ravens defense and a run game like no other any coaching staff that are geniuses in order to carry a player like DAK your team has to play nearly perfect the barely win by 1 score

FIXED !

 

[Qcard]

First of all I am not a Dak hater, just not as high on him as I was 3 years ago.

And now we have the 500 attempt stuff going on from several of you. Again, he needs experience. 10 scouts and MM and others say the complete opposite of a few novices on here. And anyone that thinks Broaddus was a great scout are mistaken.

Even Jason Garrett got a SB ring with Troy as the main QB.

The main office people, at least for Jerry got a SB ring, though not as big as the players. So there are SB winning secretaries out there. I seriously doubt what Broaddus did made them a SB champion.

Wrong....Facts are Bryan Broaddus is responsible for scouting and standing on business for 3-5 players on a Superbowl team. This is far from a "secretaries" responsibilities.

Even Carson Wentz won a Superbowl (horrible non-sequitor)

The NFL is about Contracts and availability....Trey Lance didn't earn his 5th year option after being under McCarthy since last season.

If Trey Lance had shown any of the markers of a Franchise QB off the field since last year, Jerry Jones would have taken the 5th year option and have REAL leverage against Prescott.

Now the Dak Haters have a new toy and narrative....Trey Lance's arm is useless if he's still a one read QB

 

[KingCorcoran]

He is garbage to you as you feel he will threaten Dak's job in 2025.

Dak is leaving in free agency next March. Lance will not be threatening some other Cowboys quarterback’s job in 2025.

 

[plymkr]

I hear you. Count Dooku was a necessarily loss...soon we will have a new apprentice...one far younger and more powerful....

Love it!!

 

[CowboyStar88]

Lol one practice in OTA and he can’t do it? That’s wild. When what just a couple weeks ago we heard he was looking good. Come on man let’s not go to extremes one way or the other. Let’s let this play out in preseason and training camp.

 

[Chasing6]

More like SF made a mistake, and Jerry fleeced them.

Hahaha........I wish it was funny.

 

[VaqueroTD]

This thread is the result of a fan that doesn't understand the situation. Trey Lance is not competing for the QB1 job. At best, he is competing with Cooper Rush for the QB2 job. Trey will get a heavy dose of starting in the preseason. But the only way he ascends to the QB1 job is if he beats out Cooper and Dak gets injured. It could happen but it's not likely.

It's Cooper Rush but we must be reading different forums, because I've seen a ton of posts since the GB loss about fan wanting Trey Lance to take over as starter. Responding to the popular fan sentiment, not the reality of the depth charts.

 

[Chasing6]

It's Cooper Rush but we must be reading different forums, because I've seen a ton of posts since the GB loss about fan wanting Trey Lance to take over as starter. Responding to the popular fan sentiment, not the reality of the depth charts.

Make no mistake about why Trance was added to the team. It was a wish and a prayer that he has starting potential. It was a poor attempt to try and create leverage with Dak. Failed miserably.

We already had a competent, experienced and proven back up QB in Rush. The fact that he is competing with Rush for QB2 is all you need to know at this point.

If we were a bottom 8 team it could make sense to roll the dice with Trance. However we are a top 8 team. Even if Trance wins the QB2 job(most likely to protect Jerry's ego), he will still have less than 400 pass attempts at the end of the year and be a FA.

 

[Kingofholland]

I think most of us are realistic about this young man's chances, but for those who are beating the drums that our #1 and #2 are in trouble it doesn't look good that the press is already saying Trey Lance looks inconsistent. No pads, no sacks, and the same offense he learned last year. I don't know what else he needs.

There has never been a successful QB project under Jerry Jones. Only 3 QBs have been successful as starters - Troy Aikman, Dak Prescott and Tony Romo. Troy was a gimme, the #1 overall pick and even Tom Landry admitted he would have drafted Troy if he had stayed on as coach. Tony Romo was Sean Payton's baby, and to stress the point even further that Jerry is horrible at spotting talent, Romo would have been cut if Quincy Carter hadn't failed his drug test. And then Dan Prescott who Jerry definitely didn't want because he tried his darnedest to draft another failed QB in Paxton Lynch. And the Cowboys lucked into Dak as a 13-3 rookie starter, that wasn't by choice. So who does Jerry get credit for? Names like Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter. Winners. And this same GM was the first person the 49ers called because they know how much he drools over project QBs even though he couldn't pick the right one in an open field.

But we also saw Trey Lance play for the 49ers. He was lost, completely lost. This was the 49ers. This was not Steve Young who looked horrible on the worst franchise in the NFL with the Tampa Bay Bucks. Or even Jim Plunkett failing with the then horrible New England Patriots and winning Super Bowls as the franchise QB for the Raiders years later. This is the 49ers, who have maybe the best offensive minded head coach in the NFL, and are one of the most dominant teams in the NFL the last few years even if they don't have a SB win.

Anything is possible. But if I had to put money on Trey Lance becoming a franchise QB, I would definitely go the other direction. Which is sad, because I do think there's a good chance that Dan has played his last year here, and the Cowboys have no viable replacement. We are far from the Ron Wolf GM, or Green Bay Packers, who have the next great QB always lined up.

All spot on, we knew Lance would be a project coming to Dallas. If anyone actually believed he had a chance to unseat Dak probably just likes gambling on long shot odds. However, it will be interesting what we see from him in the preseason and should give him 3/4s of snaps to see what he can do in preseason games.If he can't light it up against backups after 4 years I just don't see his ceiling being anything higher than backup.

However, I still don't mind rolling the dice for a 4th rounder to see what he could bring.