Really doesn't it come down to Romo?

KJJ said:
Those QB's have made a lot more plays than Romo especially in big games which is why they've all won multiple playoff games and each own at least one SB ring.
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Granted, but my point is they make the occasional mistake.
 
Denim Chicken said:
So all those QBs have always identified a favorable match up? Never overlooked an open receiver?
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If you're going to make a favorable argument for Romo it's best not to bring up 4 QB's who've all won SB's and are shoe-in first ballot Hall of Famers.
 
KJJ said:
If you're going to make a favorable argument for Romo it's best not to bring up 4 QB's who've all won SB's and are shoe-in first ballot Hall of Famers.
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I'm not the one who brought them up. The OP did that.
 
Where should Romo have thrown the ball? Dez made it clear by thowing his hands up before the snap that he didn't get the adjustment, so Romo couldn't know what route Dez would run. Should he have thrown to the corner and hoped? Should he have held the ball and watched to see what dez would do and hope he got open - all while avoiding the incoming rush and losing the option for the screen pass? Or should he have gone with the rest of the team that got the play even if they were just supposed to be the diversion that got Dez single coverage?

The point being, not one of us has a clue why things happened the way they did, but we all seem sanctimonious enough to stand in judgement based on hindsight. If what happened is "UNACCEPTABLE at this point in Romo's career" then your only option is to no longer be a fan of the Cowboys cause there is way more than 108 million reasons why Romo will remain OUR quarterback.
 
KJJ said:
If you're going to make a favorable argument for Romo it's best not to bring up 4 QB's who've all won SB's and are shoe-in first ballot Hall of Famers.
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and thinking we can get someone that good is a reach as well. you act like QBs like those 4 grow on trees.
 
He definitely did miss that one, that was crucial. I'm not worried about Romo's ability though, I'm FAR more worried abut this crap we call "play calling" on offense. It's like we're still running our pre season vanilla offense.
 
While I am a huge Romo fan, that match up has to be taken advantage of, 100% of the time. There is no excuse for that. I think the staff want to play it safe and not risk anything. My guess is they knew they had 3, so run the safest play you can and hope for the best. I don't agree with that. But we don't know if the coaches said, run play 18, no audibles or if was really left up to Romo. If it was left up to him, that would be disappointing.
 
burmafrd said:
and they have all had better teams than romo has had with the exception of 2007. But then a notorious romo hater like you thinks that only QBs matter.

So what about P Mannings INT that ended their season last year?
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All those QB's make their teams better Indy was a 3-13 team when Peyton Manning arrived and he eventually led them to a championship. Denver was an 8-8 team until Peyton Manning arrived now they're the best team in the NFL. The Saints were the Aints having the worst history of any team in the NFL until Brees arrived and led them to a championship. The Packers would be an average team without Aaron Rodgers who's the most sacked QB in the league but he still gets his team to the playoffs every year.

As for Mannings INT that ended Denver's season last year he gets a pass because he's won a championship, 4 league MVP's and is one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game. He's had arguably the greatest regular seasons of any QB in history. Romo's game will be heavily scrutinized until he leads the Cowboys to a championship. The Cowboys have had several seasons end with him throwing an INT or being strip sacked.
 
burmafrd said:
and thinking we can get someone that good is a reach as well. you act like QBs like those 4 grow on trees.
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Who said we could get anyone that good? The QB we have who you think I hate is pretty darn good but he doesn't have what it takes between the ears.
 
CATCH17 said:
Romo got overpaid. There is no denying that. He isn't good enough to overcome the weaknesses of this team because really he doesn't have the confidence that he can and neither does the team around him.

That said he is a really good player and we can win with him but this team needs to gain confidence.

Also.. Even the best QB's have stinkers. If you don't see that then you are watching too many Cowboys games and not the rest of the league.
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He is good enough to overcome the weaknesses of this team? lol. He is part of the weakness of this team man.. that is what the OP is pointing out with this thread. For the most part I think the team has confidence, I just think the play calling, HC, Romo, and Murray...all need to improve. If the coaching is improved, that can improve Murray and Romo to an extent.

Sure, the best QB's out there have stinkers but Romo is looking like dog crap out there lately and we paid him ELITE money. He can't be missing obvious one on one match ups at the goal line man. I really think Romo is starting to go down hill rapidly. His balls have no zip on them and worst off he doesn't seem to be there mentally. What is up with the 1 yard passes to Witten on 3rd and 10? Makes no sense at all.
 
KJJ said:
All those QB's make their teams better Indy was a 3-13 team when Peyton Manning arrived and he eventually led them to a championship. Denver was an 8-8 team until Peyton Manning arrived now they're the best team in the NFL. The Saints were the Aints having the worst history of any team in the NFL until Brees arrived and led them to a championship. The Packers would be an average team without Aaron Rodgers who's the most sacked QB in the league but he still gets his team to the playoffs every year.

As for Mannings INT that ended Denver's season last year he gets a pass because he's won a championship, 4 league MVP's and is one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game. He's had arguably the greatest regular seasons of any QB in history. Romo's game will be heavily scrutinized until he leads the Cowboys to a championship. The Cowboys have had several seasons end with him throwing an INT or being strip sacked.
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Indy hasn't missed a beat with Andrew Luck at the helm, really not much of a drop off from when manning was there (record wise). As for Denver, they won more playoff games with Tebow then they did with Peyton, and that team is STACKED all around. He SHOULD be able to win with that Bronco's team, give Brees, Brady, or Rodgers a team like that and it's a lock.

Also Manning shouldn't get a pass either. He's always been known to struggle when it counts just like Romo, and Manning didn't even play that good during his superbowl win, his DEFENSE won that game. Imagine that, a defense coming up big when a QB doesn't carry them, sure as heck would never happen in Dallas.
 
dstovall5 said:
Also Manning shouldn't get a pass either. He's always been known to struggle when it counts just like Romo, and Manning didn't even play that good during his superbowl win, his DEFENSE won that game. Imagine that, a defense coming up big when a QB doesn't carry them, sure as heck would never happen in Dallas.
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Yeah, you're right, Manning sucks just like Romo sucks. What was he thinking saying Manning, Brees, and Rodgers were great. They are all on the same level with Romo. No chance any of those bums make their teams better or will get in the Hall one day. :rolleyes:
 
ufcrules1 said:
He is good enough to overcome the weaknesses of this team? lol. He is part of the weakness of this team man.. that is what the OP is pointing out with this thread. For the most part I think the team has confidence, I just think the play calling, HC, Romo, and Murray...all need to improve. If the coaching is improved, that can improve Murray and Romo to an extent.

Sure, the best QB's out there have stinkers but Romo is looking like dog crap out there lately and we paid him ELITE money. He can't be missing obvious one on one match ups at the goal line man. I really think Romo is starting to go down hill rapidly. His balls have no zip on them and worst off he doesn't seem to be there mentally. What is up with the 1 yard passes to Witten on 3rd and 10? Makes no sense at all.
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Read what I typed again.
 
CATCH17 said:
Read what I typed again.
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My bad.. I can't edit it now because too much time has elapsed. I guess I had read so many of your Romo homer posts in the past that I read this one the wrong way. You are right, he isn't good enough to overcome the weaknesses of this team including his own shortcomings. He isn't the type of QB like Aaron Rodgers and Peyton that can make everyone play to a higher level. He isn't smart enough to watch game tape and improve on his play. He continues to make the same boneheaded mistakes every single year and now we are paying him 108m to do them.
 
For people blaming the play calling. Why isn't Romo getting blamed for the play calling from you guys? I'm not suggesting he deserves all the blame for the play calling, but he definitely deserves some.
 
CATCH17 said:
Romo got overpaid. There is no denying that. He isn't good enough to overcome the weaknesses of this team because really he doesn't have the confidence that he can and neither does the team around him.

That said he is a really good player and we can win with him but this team needs to gain confidence.

Also.. Even the best QB's have stinkers. If you don't see that then you are watching too many Cowboys games and not the rest of the league.
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Catch let's not jump the shark. He didn't get overpaid he got market value and if we hadn't of got it to him somebody else would've. Again I always ask three things about Romo.

Who else you got?
How do you justify starting over at the most important position to the other players?
Is his career written yet?

So he didn't light it up last week and missed a play. He could just as easily light it up this week and make a lot of plays.
 
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