Really doesn't it come down to Romo?

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Romo is just in my doghouse right now and I really hope he earns his way out of it sooner rather than later.
 

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And I'm sure you've noticed that the only thing that has kept us hope is our passing game. Romo HAS had weapons his entire time here, and he has always put them to good use. I'm talking about the other areas where we have been lacking in. I don't think Romo is a good enough QB to win with just his passing offense alone, he either needs a solid running game, or a defense that can create turn overs. And yes, of course a good coaching staff around him would do wonders. I'm afraid it might be too late to get those other pieces around him, though I guess time will tell. The clock is ticking though, tick, tock ...

The passing game is the only chance the Cowboys have their QB and receivers are the strength of the team. They haven't been able to run the ball consistently in years and with most teams airing it out it's going to be on Romo's shoulders to win games. He's going to be involved in several shootouts this season with Rivers, Peyton, Brees and Rodgers in the coming weeks. Romo isn't good enough to win with just passing he's too mistake prone but passing is the only thing this team can do well. You have to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers like Dez.

Defensively there's still issues stopping teams in the 4th quarter. We can't stop the pass or the run when games are on the line. Lee has looked lost in this defense and Ware came of the field with a neck burner last week which raises concern about his continuing neck issues. The clock is ticking and it's looking like it's going to run out on this team. The Cowboys had an entire offseason to try and correct some of the problems but we keep seeing them. It's very discouraging.
 

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If Romo misses a game this season, you guys are gonna be shocked at how much better we are w/o him.

Yeah let's go with the guy who got benched in favor of Tebow and got kicked to the curb by KC....CHAMPIONSHIP! :rolleyes:
 

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The life of a Journeyman QB.....Enter Carson Palmer and Tony Romo....both are equals in about ever sense of what a QB is or should be,,,,they both are 33 years old, Carson has more experience and better arm strength and neither of them are great but they both are journeyman QB's....neither has won anything significant.....and they both have had their chances to be great but never lived up to the hype..........ALA that is were the Cowboys are with Tony Romo today a Journeyman QB (who Jerry Jones paid like he was Drew Bree's). IMO Carson Palmer could come into the Cowboys offense and do just as good as Romo and been paid one H*** of a lot less.

It will take someone besides ROMO to take this team to a championship....Romo has had his chances, he is good enough to do the job but if you want a championship it will take someone else on Offense to step up and get it done.
 

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The life of a Journeyman QB.....Enter Carson Palmer and Tony Romo....both are equals in about ever sense of what a QB is or should be,,,,they both are 33 years old,

this is one of the craziest comparisons I've ever heard. No point in reading anything after this statement. Hogwash
 

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That awesome defense you're referring to ranked 20th in 2011 and gave up over 40 points 4 times during the regular season and once in the playoffs. My gosh Denver gave up 49 points to GB and 2 weeks later gave up 45 to Detroit. They gave up back to back 40 point games in weeks 15 and 16 to NE AND Buffalo and you call that an "awesome" defense?

No, the awesome defense I'm referring to is the defense that held 5 opponents to 13 points or less. They also held 7 different opponents to 17 points or less as well. That's the awesome defense I'm referring to, but go ahead and highlight those few games to try and validate your flawed point.

Of course his "teammates" are going to support him what do you expect them to say? For as many mistakes as he's made in crunch games I doubt everyone of his teammates believe he can get it done. They certainly won't admit it but other players such as Ahmad Bradshaw said he didn't think the team believes in him. Bradshaw said what many others think including myself. Romo is a talented QB but it's hard to believe in him with all the poor decisions he makes in critical situations.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/11/ahmad-bradshaw-takes-a-shot-at-cowboys-tony-romo/

And that's a load of crap, I don't buy the "what do you expect them to say" nonsense. IF that were true, then why do we see current players come out anonymously and bad mouth their very own teammates. They may not say it with their name on the line, but if they felt that way they sure as heck would express those feelings anonymously. Also, the poor decisions are magnified because he's on such a crap team, so any mistake he does make are that much more crucial. His teammates also understand that he makes a lot more positive plays then negative ones, apparently some fans don't though.

He has yet to show he can handle do or die pressure.

Another load of crap statement I don't buy in. When a team is 3-5, that's considered do or die correct? 3-6 then you're most likely out of the playoffs, because you'd have to win out or go 6-1 to have a chance. Last year when we were 3-5, our QB led our team to a 5-1 stretch under "do or die pressure". All that stuff is just nonsense that fans and media make up, SMH.
 

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I'm like, the Czar of RomoStan, and I think this thread is one of the biggest overreactions to a one-point road loss to a favored team this week. And that's saying something this week.
 

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The passing game is the only chance the Cowboys have their QB and receivers are the strength of the team. They haven't been able to run the ball consistently in years and with most teams airing it out it's going to be on Romo's shoulders to win games. He's going to be involved in several shootouts this season with Rivers, Peyton, Brees and Rodgers in the coming weeks. Romo isn't good enough to win with just passing he's too mistake prone but passing is the only thing this team can do well. You have to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers like Dez.
Romo HAS proven he can go toe to toe with an elite QB in a shoot out, he's proven it before, and he also proved it last year against Drew Brees. The thing is though, even if Romo plays very good, we'll still need a big play by our defense to come out with a W against those teams. We definitely need to get Dez the ball though, because like you said he's our play maker, but if teams triple team him like the giants sometimes did, then I disagree. It'd be dumb to force into triple coverage with a HoF TE and one of the best #2 WRs in the NFL.


Defensively there's still issues stopping teams in the 4th quarter. We can't stop the pass or the run when games are on the line. Lee has looked lost in this defense and Ware came of the field with a neck burner last week which raises concern about his continuing neck issues. The clock is ticking and it's looking like it's going to run out on this team. The Cowboys had an entire offseason to try and correct some of the problems but we keep seeing them. It's very discouraging.
Lee definitely been a big disappointment, I'm afraid he might not be the same player in this scheme. I hear yah about our problems, time again they keep popping up, the same old stuff. It's very early this year so just maybe we can get the kinks worked out ... You know how that goes though.
 

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Plenty of QB's have played well enough throughout their mid-30's to achieve high levels of success and even win the Superbowl.

Unless you can see the future you have no idea if that contract extension was a "terrible idea" or not. None of us has any clue after 2 games what this season will bring.

And I'm pretty sure no one on this team gets "ripped to shreds" more than Romo.

Yet every QB who played "well enough" declined. It's a simple fact. No one gets better past their mid 30's. We're paying Romo for what's he done in the past and not what he'll do in the future, which is a big, BIG mistake. I don't need a crystal ball to make that call.

And guess what? He should get ripped more. That's exactly the point of this thread. The guy who has a hand in every single play call and more to do with the offense than any other player on the field deserves a bigger slice of blame, right?
 

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Romo has been pilloried for turning the ball over so now he is being super cautious with it. You can't have it both ways. You want him to take chances? Deal with the turnovers. You want him to protect the ball? Well, get ready for more FGs.

So you're basically saying he can either turn the ball over at an alarming rate or dink and dunk down the field? Why can't he make plays without turning the ball over twice a game?
 

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So you're basically saying he can either turn the ball over at an alarming rate or dink and dunk down the field? Why can't he make plays without turning the ball over twice a game?

Playcalling also factors into it.

Romo has always been near the top of the league in yards per attempt. The new playcaller is having a big impact on that.

Not impressed with BC at all.

Gives up on the running game, calls too many consecutive passes, calls too many short route combinations, etc...
 

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Catch let's not jump the shark. He didn't get overpaid he got market value and if we hadn't of got it to him somebody else would've. Again I always ask three things about Romo.

Who else you got?
How do you justify starting over at the most important position to the other players?
Is his career written yet?

So he didn't light it up last week and missed a play. He could just as easily light it up this week and make a lot of plays.

I'm really tired of everybody talking about Romo being the best thing we've got and it's not so easy to get someone better. While Jerry's been blowing up Romo as the end-all-be-all, San Francisco drafted Colin Kaepernick in the second round, Seattle drafted Russell Wilson in the third round, and the Miami Dolphins drafted Ryan Tannehill in the first round two picks after the Cowboys picked Morris Claiborne. It's not like it's impossible to find a QB as good or better than Romo for a fraction of the cost.
 

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I'm so glad I am not Tony Romo. Too many fans see black and white when talking football. If the media says it's Tony Romo's fault well, better have a wagon ready for all those heavy finger pointers to sit on. Listen folks, Ben Worthlessburger has 2 Superbowl rings and here are his combined stats for that: 349 yrds, 1TD, 3INT's. Peyton Manning has ONE RING and he's been in the league for 16 years and is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than most QB's in the NFL. It's a team sport folks. Players can be the best you've ever seen but, if they're not getting support from their teamates, coaching etc., it just won't matter how good they are. Tony Romo is an undrafted phenom. He's easily a top 10 QB in this league and if this organization would get its crap together, start hiring the right personnel around here, we could compete at a much higher level. That being said, I am aware that Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers & Drew Brees are superior QB's. However, do you honestly think that having any of those guys would make this football "team" any better? Maybe by a margin, but I assure you, that margin would not likely be enough to get us another Superbowl right now. They have a hard enough time getting there with their superior football teams currently.
 

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I'm really tired of everybody talking about Romo being the best thing we've got and it's not so easy to get someone better. While Jerry's been blowing up Romo as the end-all-be-all, San Francisco drafted Colin Kaepernick in the second round, Seattle drafted Russell Wilson in the third round, and the Miami Dolphins drafted Ryan Tannehill in the first round two picks after the Cowboys picked Morris Claiborne. It's not like it's impossible to find a QB as good or better than Romo for a fraction of the cost.

Yes, it is. Look at 2010, for example, since those players are now old enough to be developed and entering their primes. Sam Bradford. Tim Tebow. Jimmy Klausen, Colt McCoy. Those are your top four. Who you got? Mike Kafka? John Skelton? Jonathan Crompton. Rusty Smith. Those are yout next four. Want to keep going? Joe Webb, anybody? On that list, Sam Bradford is the only name you can consider, and he was the #1 pick, overall.
Want to try another recent year? Say, the year Kaepernick came out? Just some of the guys who came before him? Jake Locker? Blaine Gabbert? Christian Ponder, anybody? Please. QBs are incredibly expensive to draft and hard to develop. And in addition to the time, and the money they require, you also have to stake yourself to them for a minimum of 32 games to find out whether you got a present or a lump of coal.

All of this over a guy who threw for 300 yards and 71% completion percentage, with damaged ribs, and one touchdown and no picks against a very good defense under a heavy blitz much of the game....it's beyond ridiculous. It really is.
 

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No, the awesome defense I'm referring to is the defense that held 5 opponents to 13 points or less. They also held 7 different opponents to 17 points or less as well. That's the awesome defense I'm referring to, but go ahead and highlight those few games to try and validate your flawed point.

A lot of that was due to Denver being able to control the ball on the ground with Tebow and McGahee. That kept their defense off the field and fresh but the games where they were on the field a lot they got toasted. My point isn't flawed the stats and rankings don't lie that wasn't an "awesome" defense.


And that's a load of crap, I don't buy the "what do you expect them to say" nonsense. IF that were true, then why do we see current players come out anonymously and bad mouth their very own teammates. They may not say it with their name on the line, but if they felt that way they sure as heck would express those feelings anonymously. Also, the poor decisions are magnified because he's on such a crap team, so any mistake he does make are that much more crucial. His teammates also understand that he makes a lot more positive plays then negative ones, apparently some fans don't though.

You don't see current players bad mouthing their QB or they'll be playing for another team. Marty B has said some bad things about Romo since he left the Cowboys. He even made some comments that could be construed as negative toward Romo when he said he liked Kitna at QB. There's been some "rumors" that some players on the team aren't thrilled with Romo. One former NFL player not a Cowboy (link below with video) said Romo is a loser and is killing the Cowboys. I'm not saying Romo is a loser so don't get it twisted I'm just pointing out the opinion of other players who have no affiliation with the Cowboys. Romo's been a big part of the reason the Cowboys have been a competitive team but he's also been a big part of the reason they haven't been able to get over the hump.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...been-given-in-this-league-he-is-a-thief.html/


Another load of crap statement I don't buy in. When a team is 3-5, that's considered do or die correct? 3-6 then you're most likely out of the playoffs, because you'd have to win out or go 6-1 to have a chance. Last year when we were 3-5, our QB led our team to a 5-1 stretch under "do or die pressure". All that stuff is just nonsense that fans and media make up, SMH.

Being 3-5 isn't "do or die" when you're down to one game you have to win to continue is considered do or die. At 3-6 you still have a shot at the playoffs all be it a slim one because you still have 7 games left. Under "do or die" pressure Romo is 1-6 and has 12 turnovers.
 

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I'm really tired of everybody talking about Romo being the best thing we've got and it's not so easy to get someone better. While Jerry's been blowing up Romo as the end-all-be-all, San Francisco drafted Colin Kaepernick in the second round, Seattle drafted Russell Wilson in the third round, and the Miami Dolphins drafted Ryan Tannehill in the first round two picks after the Cowboys picked Morris Claiborne. It's not like it's impossible to find a QB as good or better than Romo for a fraction of the cost.

Wilson is the only of those 3 I have watched that I would say is legit
So you're basically saying he can either turn the ball over at an alarming rate or dink and dunk down the field? Why can't he make plays without turning the ball over twice a game?

The dink plays are not because Romo is not confident in making smart plays down the field. They are a direct result of our new OC. Calla-who? I'd rather have pulled an OC from the college ranks. This guy is a joke and isn't cut out for play calling. Why put a guy in the position to do that with no resume saying he is capable? This organization has lost its marbles.
 

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So you're basically saying he can either turn the ball over at an alarming rate or dink and dunk down the field? Why can't he make plays without turning the ball over twice a game?

Anyway you slice it, attempting to "make plays" is going to lead to more turnovers. Period. You want the old Romo back? He's going to turn the ball over more. You want him to take care of the ball? The offense simply won't be as dynamic. Is there a middle ground? I don't know.
 
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