Really hate that Dez is gone

Cap12

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Meh. He lost me the past 3 years. Every year you kept hoping old Dez would miraculously come back, but nope. Age waits for no man folks.
Age wasn't the problem for Dez. It was the transition from Romo to Dak. In this case 4 - 9 = 0
 

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That remains to be seen, but hopefully Gallop can come in and compete. He's a high floor/low ceiling guy, but he has the talent to contribute right away based upon his excellent skill set.
IDK about that, there are some scouts who think Gallup could be one of the better WR's in this draft. I actually think he's got a chance to be really good if he and Dak can connect.
 

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That remains to be seen, but hopefully Gallop can come in and compete. He's a high floor/low ceiling guy, but he has the talent to contribute right away based upon his excellent skill set.

I don't think he will put 1000 yards, But When Dak has run this offense without Dez, and just makes the reads and finds the open guy, he has played his best.
 

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Not for the reasons we’ve argued as nauseum already (those too) but with Witten retiring too, just kinda bummed me out that all my favorite post Big Three players are gone.

Had braced my self for Witten retiring for a couple of years already, has Dak looking like a phenom when Romo was pushed out, but sitting here today it’s just kinda sad to me. More heartbreak than joy with these guys, but such an attachment. It was easy to be a fan when we were winning titles, and as much as I liked Emmitt and Troy and Irvin it was almost hero worship. Everyone loved them and there wasn’t much criticism to levy. With these three though, never getting over the hump there’s that feeling of going through the turmoil with them and really emotionally vested in them overcoming the odds. And now they’re gone :(

I am just he opposite. I couldnt be happier that he is finally gone along with that 16 mil salary. Dont have to deal with his mouth, his antics, his attitude and forcing the ball to him. The receiving corps will be better off overall without him there. And now its 100% Daks team and we can move forward.

Besides the combination of Hurns, our 3rd round rookie, and one of the other guys can easily replace his production for 1/4 the price with no attitude.
 

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Every year with Garrett, it’s always a personality excuse. TO, Greg Hardy, Dez... one guy is solely responsible for the disaster of the season.

Storyline:

Team sucks.. Garrett looks like a loser. Some information plus leaked about a player allegedly missing a meeting or sleeping during them.

The story of a locker-room cancer is created. That it is released.

Rinse and repeat..
 

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I can appreciate why some feel that way. Dez and Witten were part of exciting games/moments over the years. Unfortunately, unlike the Triplets, they were never part of any real postseason success - that's not entirely their fault, but it's still the case. After watching the offense struggle at times last year I was ready for some changes. They aren't forthcoming in the coaching and QB departments, so something else had to give.

I will not miss Dez's theatrics. As production declines my patience for silliness drops with it. I will not miss Witten's inability to make big plays at this point of his career. No longer able to seriously threaten defenses down field, his presence makes it harder to run the ball and work other receivers underneath. Whether the new additions can improve things remains to be seen, but what was going on last year wasn't good enough.
This makes little sense when examining 2016, when Bryant was top three at the 50 reception mark. Bryant and Witten didn't suddenly forget how to run routes or get open in less than a year...but scapegoating is a useful tactic I hear.
 

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Every year with Garrett, it’s always a personality excuse. TO, Greg Hardy, Dez... one guy is solely responsible for the disaster of the season.

Storyline:

Team sucks.. Garrett looks like a loser. Some information plus leaked about a player allegedly missing a meeting or sleeping during them.

The story of a locker-room cancer is created. That it is released.

Rinse and repeat..


It’s always someone else’s fault.


We had to draft Connor Williams and spend money on Fleming because of the lack of scheme that went into the Atlanta game to help out our tackle.

We’re always trying to build a roster around Garrett’s flaws.

Now we have no pass weapons to speak of and we’ve just built an offense that can impose it’s will.
 

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We are not a vertical offense. We don't need elite receivers to be good. This is why I think losing Dez will not hurt us as much.

Dak needs better protection and a running game. That will help him this year more than a good receiver. In 2016 our offense was at its best when we were pounding the ball, rolling Dak out, doing play action, and throwing short passes to Beasly.

I am more concerned about losing Witten to be honest, even with his decline in production. He is still a safety valve for Dak. I really hope Witten stays another year.
 

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IDK about that, there are some scouts who think Gallup could be one of the better WR's in this draft. I actually think he's got a chance to be really good if he and Dak can connect.
When I made the high/floor low ceiling comment, it is mostly about the fact that his floor is so high that he could probably start right away based upon his skills. What holds him back is that he has average speed and size for the position. No doubt he could improve, but the good news is he's one of the most "NFL ready" WR in the draft (along with Ridley and DJ Moore).
 

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So long as Dak continues to develop and improve. Otherwise we are in for a bad stretch of road. Yeah, Dez was frustrated and it is chicken/egg argument over whether it was his frustration or Dak's inaccuracy that made him inconsistent, but Dak really has no more excuses. He will likely have the best OL, one of the most dynamic/versatile/dominant runners in the game and capable, if not spectacular WRs. Hopefully he had a productive off-season and we'll see the new and improved Dak in 2018.
My post had nothing to do with Dak. If there's a thread made to dissect him, fine but I'm not interested in your "chicken/egg argument. A behind the scenes look may give you a different perspective.
 

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This makes little sense when examining 2016, when Bryant was top three at the 50 reception mark. Bryant and Witten didn't suddenly forget how to run routes or get open in less than a year...but scapegoating is a useful tactic I hear.

Dez's completion rate in 2016 was 52.1%, slightly higher than his 52% of a year ago. Meanwhile, it's 70% with all of the other receivers over that same span.

I'm using stats. You're the one scapegoating. "Dak can't pass", except that he can to everyone not named Dez.
 

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After watching a few episodes of All or Nothing, Dez really looked uninterested and unmotivated a lot to me. I can see now why maybe they wanted to part ways with him.

I'm ready to move on.
 

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We are not a vertical offense. We don't need elite receivers to be good. This is why I think losing Dez will not hurt us as much.

Dak needs better protection and a running game. That will help him this year more than a good receiver. In 2016 our offense was at its best when we were pounding the ball, rolling Dak out, doing play action, and throwing short passes to Beasly.

I am more concerned about losing Witten to be honest, even with his decline in production. He is still a safety valve for Dak. I really hope Witten stays another year.
Dak needs to get a heck of a lot more accurate and to get the ball out of his hands quicker. Outside of a few Games, Dak's line was above average last season. He had Zeke for 10 games. Dak better get used to playing without Witten. Like Romo, he'll be as much a stud in the booth as he was on the field.
 

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I agree with this, But I still wish he could have made it work here. I think he's a good kid. But I think the team will be better.
I do too man. I liked Dez. When things were rolling and in his favor he was fantastic. When there were challenges he failed to move forward. The staff grew tired of having to try and coral him and I think they coddled him too much. Great physical talent, but the mental aspect added unnecessary distractions.
 

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When I made the high/floor low ceiling comment, it is mostly about the fact that his floor is so high that he could probably start right away based upon his skills. What holds him back is that he has average speed and size for the position. No doubt he could improve, but the good news is he's one of the most "NFL ready" WR in the draft (along with Ridley and DJ Moore).
I love his high floor, just disagree w/ the low ceiling assessment. His route running sets him apart. He's got #1 capabilities, just has to learn how to deal w/ the press. He's not a deep threat, he's a route runner who gets open.
 

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After watching a few episodes of All or Nothing, Dez really looked uninterested and unmotivated a lot to me. I can see now why maybe they wanted to part ways with him.

I'm ready to move on.
Yeah, it's pretty clear. There were times when things were going ok/well and he couldn't overcome his own frustrations which in turn affected his performance, the show illustrated how the staff tried to get him to forget a drop or play that broke down but he just wouldn't let it go. There were plenty of examples of Dez hurting the dynamic.
 

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If it was me, I would have released Dez Bryant immediately after the Seahawks debacle last season. Just..........gone. To act and perform the way he did in that game with the season on the line was inexcusable. Pathetic. Embarrassing. Immature. Sad.

The Cowboys are better off without him.
 

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Dak needs to get a heck of a lot more accurate and to get the ball out of his hands quicker. Outside of a few Games, Dak's line was above average last season. He had Zeke for 10 games. Dak better get used to playing without Witten. Like Romo, he'll be as much a stud in the booth as he was on the field.

I am not sure Dak will get a lot more accurate. We have to play to his strengths. Our coaching staff is also not the most creative bunch in the NFL. We will continue to have a predictable offense with a QB that has accuracy issues. So how do we counter this? by playing physical smash mouth football. We are not going to outsmart our opponents, and Dak is not going to be a super precise QB that will scare the opponents secondary. But Dak is a running threat and he is good throwing on the run. Our best bet is to be conservative on offense, run the ball a lot, etc.

We are not going to score a lot of points, but we can control the clock and limit turnovers. I think our defense will get better this year. I trust Marinelli more than Linehan. Our secondary will be stronger with Chidobe and Lewis in their second year, plus B Jones as a corner. I feel better about our LB corps now with LVE. And our DL is still good with D-Law, Irving and Taco. All we need now are decent safeties (maybe Woods can be one?) and our defense can be solid.
 

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When Dez was told that he just tied Hayes' all time Cowboy TD record, he had no idea what they were talking about. He didn't even realize it. And you can clearly see from that point on until he broke the record he was more focused on that than doing his job.
 
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