CFZ Remember: Jerry doesn’t think like we do

[75boyz]

A person with Jones' mentality will excuse firing a back-to-back Super Bowl winning coach by saying 500 coaches could do what Johnson did with that team. However, his same mentality will self-justify only ONE general manager can do his job for nearly 30 consecutive years after the franchise's last Super Bowl win.

Many people have big egos. Some people have large egos. Not many have the type of ego Jones has.

Very, very nicely done.
Outstanding post.

 

[CowboyFrog]

A person with Jones' mentality will excuse firing a back-to-back Super Bowl winning coach by saying 500 coaches could do what Johnson did with that team. However, his same mentality will self-justify only ONE general manager can do his job for nearly 30 consecutive years after the franchise's last Super Bowl win.

Many people have big egos. Some people have large egos. Not many have the type of ego Jones has.

true the only thing in the grey about this is Jimmy, should Jerry have played his cards better FOR SURE, would Jimmy have stayed...who know's he himself says he probably would have moved on anyway its his DNA.

 

[eromeopolk]

A person with Jones' mentality will excuse firing a back-to-back Super Bowl winning coach by saying 500 coaches could do what Johnson did with that team. However, his same mentality will self-justify only ONE general manager can do his job for nearly 30 consecutive years after the franchise's last Super Bowl win.

Many people have big egos. Some people have large egos. Not many have the type of ego Jones has.

Now you know why I call them the Arlington Jonesboys. The Dallas Cowboys and Dallas Dynasty died March 1994. By 1996 it was Luca Brasi sleeping with the fishes.

 

[kskboys]

Jerry was also a football player long ago.

Who wasn't?

 

[rambo2]

Who wasn't?

You weren't a starter and co captain on a national championship team.

 

[CCBoy]

A person with Jones' mentality will excuse firing a back-to-back Super Bowl winning coach by saying 500 coaches could do what Johnson did with that team. However, his same mentality will self-justify only ONE general manager can do his job for nearly 30 consecutive years after the franchise's last Super Bowl win.

Many people have big egos. Some people have large egos. Not many have the type of ego Jones has.

No, Jimmy earned what he received by poor morales and ethics of his own. That doesn't overshadow his degree of a lack of loyalty to Dallas, the players, and his own boss that brought him up and provided all the required resources for change and a dynasty.

No, it was Jimmy's pride and own stance that sunk his own ship. Until HE flagrantly erred, HE had the entire NFL in his OWN hand. I won't surrender a single tear for not walking into the sunset prior to his own misconduct.

 

[Hoofbite]

I'd be impressed if he thinks at all. He's an impulse owner.

 

[kskboys]

You weren't a starter and co captain on a national championship team.

How would you know?

You'd be completely shocked at how many posters on here played at a college level, and/or how many have coached at a high level.

And why are you so focused on a collegiate playing career that ended 50 years+ ago? What's the relevance?

I've played a ton of sports in my time and have also done quite a bit of coaching. And many more on here have done far more. I have played w/ and coached many many players who weren't all that savvy about the game. What does playing on a team have to do w/ one's ability to run a team? Those are 2 completely different items, not even remotely related.

 

[CCBoy]

How would you know?

You'd be completely shocked at how many posters on here played at a college level, and/or how many have coached at a high level.

And why are you so focused on a collegiate playing career that ended 50 years+ ago? What's the relevance?

I've played a ton of sports in my time and have also done quite a bit of coaching. And many more on here have done far more. I have played w/ and coached many many players who weren't all that savvy about the game. What does playing on a team have to do w/ one's ability to run a team? Those are 2 completely different items, not even remotely related.

Don't hand out a task that one himself is not prepared to also, himself. What is described is leadership, not just tasking out.

 

[CCBoy]

I'd be impressed if he thinks at all. He's an impulse owner.

Oh, he understands what the odds and gambles, well are. As a wildcatter, did he taste or plug with concrete the salt water flushed out of the hole? Then start drilling again and hit oil...wildcatting?

 

[Diehardblues]

I find that comment laughable.

Jerry wants to win more than anyone. He just sucks at it.

Yes all true but when you’ve admitted you’d of fired a GM with your record and refuse to step down cause you’re the owner then ultimately are not doing everything within your power to win.

And why despite the fact he wants to win as badly or more than any of us it’s not enough to bring someone else in and step aside.

 

[DallasEast]

No, Jimmy earned what he received by poor morales and ethics of his own. That doesn't overshadow his degree of a lack of loyalty to Dallas, the players, and his own boss that brought him up and provided all the required resources for change and a dynasty.

No, it was Jimmy's pride and own stance that sunk his own ship. Until HE flagrantly erred, HE had the entire NFL in his OWN hand. I won't surrender a single tear for not walking into the sunset prior to his own misconduct.

No? No to what? I was not talking about Jimmy Johnson. My post was about Jerry Jones and his 29-year stranglehold on the general managership of his franchise.

March 1994 (link): “I could step out and hire Barry Switzer as coach of the Dallas Cowboys tomorrow and he’d do a better job than Jimmy. Hell, I could probably get Lou Holtz over here. I might just step out tomorrow and hire either one of them. I think there are five hundred people who could have coached this team to the Super Bowl. I really believe that. [Expletive], I could have coached the hell out of this team!”

Who does that quote belong to? It wasn't Johnson's. That is the example of the mindset I was discussing. Again, the same narcissistic personality, triggered into firing a two-time defending Super Bowl head coach, has never held himself accountable to an honest self-evaluation, pulled the trigger, and fired a now 27-year championship lacking performance of his general manager.

And please. Do not cite his own past words stating he should have fired himself for his subpar GM performance. Those are empty words since he never did.

 

[kskboys]

Yes all true but when you’ve admitted you’d of fired a GM with your record and refuse to step down cause you’re the owner then ultimately are not doing everything within your power to win.

And why despite the fact he wants to win as badly or more than any of us it’s not enough to bring someone else in.

Jerry knows what he is doing is not the best way to win super bowls. And insists on doing it anyway.

What is laughable is claiming that Jerry wants to win badly. Because he has shown that this is not the case.

 

[rambo2]

Jerry knows what he is doing is not the best way to win super bowls. And insists on doing it anyway.

What is laughable is claiming that Jerry wants to win badly. Because he has shown that this is not the case.

It will be real laughable if he wins the next 2 in a row.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry knows what he is doing is not the best way to win super bowls. And insists on doing it anyway.

What is laughable is claiming that Jerry wants to win badly. Because he has shown that this is not the case.

Yep. He only wants to win his way. Which ultimately isn’t badly enough.

 

[DallasEast]

It will be real laughable if he wins the next 2 in a row.

Serious question: If it is 'real laughable' should Jones win the next two Super Bowls, what reaction should anyone have for him winning none of the past 27 championships? What reaction would be the exact opposite of 'real laughable'?

 

[CCBoy]

No? No to what? I was not talking about Jimmy Johnson. My post was about Jerry Jones and his 29-year stranglehold on the general managership of his franchise.

March 1994 (link): “I could step out and hire Barry Switzer as coach of the Dallas Cowboys tomorrow and he’d do a better job than Jimmy. Hell, I could probably get Lou Holtz over here. I might just step out tomorrow and hire either one of them. I think there are five hundred people who could have coached this team to the Super Bowl. I really believe that. [Expletive], I could have coached the hell out of this team!”

Who does that quote belong to? It wasn't Johnson's. That is the example of the mindset I was discussing. Again, the same narcissistic personality, triggered into firing a two-time defending Super Bowl head coach, has never held himself accountable to an honest self-evaluation, pulled the trigger, and fired a now 27-year championship lacking performance of his general manager.

And please. Do not cite his own past words stating he should have fired himself for his subpar GM performance. Those are empty words since he never did.

When you arrive at the level of my post...I'll let you know.

My post that you attacked upon principal was on the false presenting in blaming that Jerry needed to give up his own ethics for the benefit of Dallas fans. No, the departing guilt was Jimmy's. He stabbed in the back ... the city of Dallas, the players that he had collected, and his own boss who only had set HIM up for success.

Departure was his own direction, which he left no doubt upon by applying to another team the week before the Super Bowl. That isn't a minor action by someone 'running' a team. It squeels lack of real ethics...no matter what excuse it is hid behind.

That Jerry knew that his team was in fact roster dominant, was not wrong in the least. He wasn't wrong or out of place to so state that fact. The team as well, had top shelf experience and were producing at top levels in the NFL That was the facts and it didn't take a Jerry Jones to be able to discern those very same facts.

To lead the team that had been forged, was independent of only being able to be led by Jimmy Johnson. That is just a wrong assumption by any fan heat seeking a target to place his own frustrations upon. Hey, Jerry was actually informed enough to make that observation as well as functional directions.

Jerry was very astute, when he sought the leadership for his team, then, from Barry Switzer. By the way, Barry had a stronger record of wins both at the Collegiate and NFL levels than did Jimmy Johnson. Fact.

No, Sir, I'm not looking the other way just to benefit Jimmy Johnson. That is called ethics. The team survived despite the turmoil and poorly shown morales that Jimmy added to that very picture. That is in the past now...but Jimmy wasn't the innocent part no matter how Jerry stated the status following that departure. I'll just leave the name calling for now, where it belongs. But I won't pander to a folk lore developed image as a substitute now.

As to strangle hold, does he or you own the team? Has he given the Head Coaches full control as to final decisions on team matters? The answer to that is yes he has given control to Head Coaches. Failure comes in many forms. You saying the 2009 Cowboys with Tony Romo wasn't in a realistic position to go all the way to the Super Bowl? The team was actually favored to do so. That isn't because of stupid Jerry nor is the current team missing a step because of Jerry...

Now, what does it sound like when Jimmy Johnson says: Yea, I screwed you Jerry, and all my players as well. That prideful? What were the exact words used by Jimmy Johnson to brow beat his own players on a jet following a win, to get HIS desired effect...now, what were those words as well?

Naw, leave both Jimmy and Jerry out of a present picture for fans and this team that is pretty darned good now, as well!

 

[DallasEast]

When you arrive at the level of my post...I'll let you know.

Please do. Thanks.

My post that you attacked upon principal was on the false presenting in blaming that Jerry needed to give up his own ethics for the benefit of Dallas fans. No, the departing guilt was Jimmy's. He stabbed in the back ... the city of Dallas, the players that he had collected, and his own boss who only had set HIM up for success.

Departure was his own direction, which he left no doubt upon by applying to another team the week before the Super Bowl. That isn't a minor action by someone 'running' a team. It squeels lack of real ethics...no matter what excuse it is hid behind.

That Jerry knew that his team was in fact roster dominant, was not wrong in the least. He wasn't wrong or out of place to so state that fact. The team as well, had top shelf experience and were producing at top levels in the NFL That was the facts and it didn't take a Jerry Jones to be able to discern those very same facts.

To lead the team that had been forged, was independent of only being able to be led by Jimmy Johnson. That is just a wrong assumption by any fan heat seeking a target to place his own frustrations upon. Hey, Jerry was actually informed enough to make that observation as well as functional directions.

Jerry was very astute, when he sought the leadership for his team, then, from Barry Switzer. By the way, Barry had a stronger record of wins both at the Collegiate and NFL levels than did Jimmy Johnson. Fact.

No, Sir, I'm not looking the other way just to benefit Jimmy Johnson. That is called ethics. The team survived despite the turmoil and poorly shown morales that Jimmy added to that very picture. That is in the past now...but Jimmy wasn't the innocent part no matter how Jerry stated the status following that departure. I'll just leave the name calling for now, where it belongs. But I won't pander to a folk lore developed image as a substitute now.

As to strangle hold, does he or you own the team? Has he given the Head Coaches full control as to final decisions on team matters? The answer to that is yes he has given control to Head Coaches. Failure comes in many forms. You saying the 2009 Cowboys with Tony Romo wasn't in a realistic position to go all the way to the Super Bowl? The team was actually favored to do so. That isn't because of stupid Jerry nor is the current team missing a step because of Jerry...

Now, what does it sound like when Jimmy Johnson says: Yea, I screwed you Jerry, and all my players as well. That prideful? What were the exact words used by Jimmy Johnson to brow beat his own players on a jet following a win, to get HIS desired effect...now, what were those words as well?

Naw, leave both Jimmy and Jerry out of a present picture for fans and this team that is pretty darned good now, as well!

 

[CCBoy]

Please do. Thanks.

 

[DallasEast]

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