Report: Cowboys negotiating with Rolando McClain

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So because we sign McClain (Mr. trustworthy and reliable), we don't need to draft DL? We were terrible last year with creating a pass rush. Aside from the Hardy signing, we have managed to prevent ourselves from worsening. That's about it.

Let's not forget that Lee is a huge question mark, and we have yet to solidify the running game. It was Murray and the dominance of our OL that prevented our defense from being atrocious.

Let's not get carried away with the idea we don't need to draft a DT. I still say it should be at the top of the draft.
 

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So because we sign McClain (Mr. trustworthy and reliable), we don't need to draft DL? We were terrible last year with creating a pass rush. Aside from the Hardy signing, we have managed to prevent ourselves from worsening. That's about it.

Let's not forget that Lee is a huge question mark, and we have yet to solidify the running game. It was Murray and the dominance of our OL that prevented our defense from being atrocious.

Let's not get carried away with the idea we don't need to draft a DT. I still say it should be at the top of the draft.

Even pessimists can realistically expect improvements from Crawford and Lawrence. And that D more than held it's own in games last year. Especially late in the season when the offense wasn't running the ball as well. It wasnt all on the offense.
 

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Even pessimists can realistically expect improvements from Crawford and Lawrence. And that D more than held it's own in games last year. Especially late in the season when the offense wasn't running the ball as well. It wasnt all on the offense.

So do you agree that we don't need to draft defensive talent on the DL this year? That seems to be the consensus of this thread now that we've signed McClain.

I'm far from being a pessimist. However, there are threads that go over the top with both optimism and pessimism. Sometimes they call for a little "reality check" This appears to be one of them.
 

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With the addition of Hardy, and if we can get McClain back at MLB. It makes losing Carter and Durant seem less significant. As Carter was not expected back, Durant is replaced by Hitchins.

But I know I feel our D jumps at least 5 spots but most likely more in the the rankings. 5 being extremely conservative. We get Lee back, and have some depth too with the FAs signed and Wilbur and a few others.

And yes, we need a DT, like Bennett in the draft. There are a lot of DTs that are in the mix, but many coming off of IR or PS. So they are really like rookies in a way competing. But none have 1st round pedigree except Okoye, and his situation does not warrant a 1st round grade anymore. Same for DE as Hardy on one year deal.

And CB is a concern too, especially if Carr is a June 1st cut now, since he won't take a pay cut, if they choose to do that.
 

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Glad to hear were making the move on mcclain. I don't trust him but him w Lee and hardy on the defense is unbelievable
 

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So do you agree that we don't need to draft defensive talent on the DL this year? That seems to be the consensus of this thread now that we've signed McClain.

I'm far from being a pessimist. However, there are threads that go over the top with both optimism and pessimism. Sometimes they call for a little "reality check" This appears to be one of them.

Read through again, where is this "consensus" you speak of? And we haven't signed McClain, don't mislead people.

They are saying if we bring McClain back, we'd have a defensive line that may strike fear in offenses. And no one said we won't be drafting a defensive lineman. It does, however, give us SOME flexibility in the draft.

Not sure what the hell you were reading though.
 

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Read through again, where is this "consensus" you speak of? And we haven't signed McClain, don't mislead people.

They are saying if we bring McClain back, we'd have a defensive line that may strike fear in offenses. And no one said we won't be drafting a defensive lineman. It does, however, give us SOME flexibility in the draft.

Not sure what the hell you were reading though.

There is a comment early in the thread stating they doubt we need to draft a DT. Another member quoted and suggested if we sign Peterson we wouldn't need a RB as well. It is not only this thread that people are getting carried away, but also in the Hardy thread. I also feel people are relying too heavily on Lee and McClain who have issues with remaining on the field and off the field concerns.

There are overly optimistic comments being made about where we are as a defense and I think too many people are wearing rose colored glasses. We have a long way to go with this defense and the draft is the key to changing a culture of inadequacies. Hell, there are threads about replacing Romo this year with our picks. Another suggesting we franchise Dez while picking a WR and developing him in order to release him after the franchise tag is no longer an option.

How a bout we just draft a few defensive linemen early and concentrate primarily on that side of the ball for a change.
 

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There is a comment early in the thread stating they doubt we need to draft a DT. Another member quoted and suggested if we sign Peterson we wouldn't need a RB as well. It is not only this thread that people are getting carried away, but also in the Hardy thread. I also feel people are relying too heavily on Lee and McClain who have issues with remaining on the field and off the field concerns.

There are overly optimistic comments being made about where we are as a defense and I think too many people are wearing rose colored glasses. We have a long way to go with this defense and the draft is the key to changing a culture of inadequacies. Hell, there are threads about replacing Romo this year with our picks. Another suggesting we franchise Dez while picking a WR and developing him in order to release him after the franchise tag is no longer an option.

How a bout we just draft a few defensive linemen early and concentrate primarily on that side of the ball for a change.

No, you had two members discussing how we won't be drafting a 1 tech in the first round. Which, really, isn't that outlandish since we have a glaring hole at RB right now and can be fixed in this draft. This is crazy, but we still have 6 picks after that to choose a defensive lineman.

And there are multiple threads around here with people discussing the health of both McClain and Lee, and we put some money into the position this offseason for quality depth if the two go down. But, without a doubt, if both McClain and Lee can stay healthy for at least 11-13 games, that is a HUGE plus for us.
 

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So do you agree that we don't need to draft defensive talent on the DL this year? That seems to be the consensus of this thread now that we've signed McClain.

I'm far from being a pessimist. However, there are threads that go over the top with both optimism and pessimism. Sometimes they call for a little "reality check" This appears to be one of them.

Literally don't see any consensus that says we shouldn't draft DL.

It must be easy to win arguments when you get to fabricate the other side.
 

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No, you had two members discussing how we won't be drafting a 1 tech in the first round. Which, really, isn't that outlandish since we have a glaring hole at RB right now and can be fixed in this draft. This is crazy, but we still have 6 picks after that to choose a defensive lineman.

And there are multiple threads around here with people discussing the health of both McClain and Lee, and we put some money into the position this offseason for quality depth if the two go down. But, without a doubt, if both McClain and Lee can stay healthy for at least 11-13 games, that is a HUGE plus for us.

You are right that here are favorable discussions taking place along the lines of exactly what I favor. However, far too many members are getting carried away with where we are as a defense. If you don't see that then you are simply choosing to see what you want to see.
 

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There is a comment early in the thread stating they doubt we need to draft a DT. Another member quoted and suggested if we sign Peterson we wouldn't need a RB as well. It is not only this thread that people are getting carried away, but also in the Hardy thread. I also feel people are relying too heavily on Lee and McClain who have issues with remaining on the field and off the field concerns.

There are overly optimistic comments being made about where we are as a defense and I think too many people are wearing rose colored glasses. We have a long way to go with this defense and the draft is the key to changing a culture of inadequacies. Hell, there are threads about replacing Romo this year with our picks. Another suggesting we franchise Dez while picking a WR and developing him in order to release him after the franchise tag is no longer an option.

How a bout we just draft a few defensive linemen early and concentrate primarily on that side of the ball for a change.

No offense, but what are you even talking about? Your writing and logic is very hard to follow. You think that because one poster said that we may not go DT in the first, there is some board agenda against drafting defense? Dude, I think you belong on conspiracy boards rather than this one.
 

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You are right that here are favorable discussions taking place along the lines of exactly what I favor. However, far too many members are getting carried away with where we are as a defense. If you don't see that then you are simply choosing to see what you want to see.

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No offense, but what are you even talking about? Your writing and logic is very hard to follow. You think that because one poster said that we may not go defense in the first, there is some board agenda against drafting defense? Dude, I think you belong on conspiracy boards rather than this one.

No offense, but what are you even talking about? Your writing and logic is very hard to follow. You think that because one poster said that we may not go DT in the first, there is some board agenda against drafting defense? Dude, I think you belong on conspiracy boards rather than this one.

One poster? You are blind. Or you dont read many threads.
 

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I think he's going to sign eventually. I just hope his heart is in it and this isn't just his last ditch money grab before he quits again.
 

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Glad to hear were making the move on mcclain. I don't trust him but him w Lee and hardy on the defense is unbelievable

This is one example right here. Not trusting McClain, but trusting him because we have Lee makes this defense "unbelievable". Seriously? Unbelievable?
 
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